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Topic Started: 18th July 2010 - 03:51 PM (953 Views)
Kiyza
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I'm going to be honest, I hate the overwhelming majority of Dragon Ball fans. Why? They have no freaking clue what the series is. "It's all about fighting, nothing else." and "I've never watched the original Dragon Bal because is doesn't have hard core action."

People like that really just can't appreciate a series, you get what I'm saying? It's not just an action series, it's adventure, comedy, and a bit of sci-fi and fantasy. It's more than just a fighting show.

Now as for people who are a little more into the series and do fanworks, here's what I really hate.

I despise OC pairings 99% of the time. Ruby's fic at least makes sense, but the reason I hate OC pairings are that they're almost always horribly out of character. It gets even worse when the character already has a wife/husband, as most of the characters in the series do.

Another thing I'm not fond of is the fact that nearly half of all fics for Dragon Ball are romance. It's a freaking action-adventure series. Romance is more or less just a plot device to get more protagonists.

I'd be fine with yaoi if it were in character and made some sort of sense, but I can't see Vegeta suddenly falling for Goku for no reason. It's pretty blatantly obvious that he's straight.

Also, there's the issue of OCs. I'm going to say flat out that 95% of Dragon Ball OCs are Saiyans with power that they really shouldn't have. If you have a lot of Saiyan characters, there's no reason that they should all be able to go Super Saiyan. It's stated to be a very difficult thing to achieve, Gohan, Trunks and Goten just got lucky and inherited some super genes or something. It's even worse when said characters are stronger than the main characters.

And then there's my little niche section of fandom, the incredibly small group of people who like Namekians. The thing that I've noticed is that it's almost impossible to like Namekians without having some sort of strange fetish for them. Seriously, check places like deviantART if you don't believe me. It annoys me to no end that people can like Saiyans and be perfectly normal about it, but you have to have a massive crush on Piccolo to like Namekians.

And then there's the fact that some people are just ignorant to the facts about them. They're asexual. Don't argue it, get over it. They don't feel love, they can't interbreed with humans/Saiyans/*insertspecieshere* and they cetainly wouldn't fall for you in your self insert art/fic or your Mary Sue counterpart. It's just WRONG.

That felt so good to say.

Now that I've gotten that out of the way, is there anything you absolutely despise about your own fandom?

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Ugg, the thing that annoys me the most about the Sonic fandom is the fancouples. I mean really, you'd think that they get their ideas off of ebay! I swear, 99.99999999999% of fanon couples suck, epecialy if the charractors have never even met eatchother. And the ones that annoys me the most are same gender pairings. Lets take sonadow for example. This is how they usually works. Shadow is sad. Sonic cheers him up. They find new feelings for eatchother. They make out. The end. For some reason I get really annoyed by those types of pairings. You would think that fans would try atleast a little harder to follow the plot. I do admit that their happens to be one fanon couple I like, but I still don't like reading fanfictions about it, and a lot of the fanart freaks me out :blink:
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WELL EXCUSE ME FOR WRITING GOKUXVEGETA YAOI!!!

Obvious that Vegeta is straight... In his pink shirt?? I like to think that Goku and Vegeta fight as a cover up for their love for each other. After all, they couldn't just let out that the two most macho Super Saiyan warriors are gay could they? In my mind Goku's obviously the girl because he has the higher voice and sissy, girly traits. Vegeta acts as the more buff, strong man in their relationship.

And if that isn't enough, here's my "reason" why Goku and Vegeta would fall in love as taken from my yaoi/crossover fic You're Perfect, Cell-

"Goku realized that Vegeta was right. Chichi and Bulma had been mistreating them both the entire time they had been married. Chichi screamed a lot and never let Goku out to fight and train with his friends, and Bulma yelled and complained over everything Vegeta did. If only they could find someone... Someone who understood their needs, their love to fight and their desire to explore, hunt and find adventure. It was then that the two Saiyans finally realized that they were the only ones who could understand their deep, primal Saiyan urges. They could understand each other because they both were warriors with the same needs. And thus the love of Goku and Vegeta began."

That reason enough for you?

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to work on my next GokuxVegeta fic. And I've brought to this site two more DBZ yaoi writers. So I hope you like 17xFuture Trunks. :D
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I don't like yaoi, and they are straight. Goku's probably asexual (in an orientation sense) considering he doesn't seem too interested in his own wife, and I can't see Vegeta being anything but straight. The pink shirt was never colored in the manga, and the entire purpose of it was to be funny.

That paragraph you wrote disgusts me. Don't take it the wrong way, but I hate yaoi. To be honest, it's not just yaoi I hate, but romance in general. I just don't like it, and I'm not sure why.

Either way, you can't get me to read yaoi, and I never will.
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Whatever. Don't like, don't read as they say. I never asked you to read any of my yaoi fics, and I wouldn't because I know you don't like them. But they do say this-you always hurt the one you love. And Goku and Vegeta sure do beat each other up a lot. And there have been many people in real life who live out their lives in the closet. Point is I think you just never know sometimes.

All of that aside, I do agree with one thing you said earlier. You mentioned those who say DBZ is nothing but fighting. God, I hate that too. My mom used to watch DB but stopped watching it when DBZ began because it was, in her words, "Too violent. I don't like violence and all they do is fight." Damn, that just frustrates me and makes me mad to no end! And she's missing out on a great show too, if only I could get her to watch enough of it to understand. But she gave up after I showed her the first three episodes.

And my little paragraph was disgusting huh? lol! Don't worry, as a yaoi writer I'm used to hearing those kinds of things. I still like to add my two cents though. But like I said, I'm not trying to get you to read them. I am curious though about who has been reading them, because I see they have been viewed a few times before P1nkx and Crescent Moon Angel showed up (my yaoi writing buddies). So since I'm a nice girl, here's a handy dandy list of my fics for you to avoid in the future-

You're Perfect, Cell
Soup & Crackers
The Beach Vacation
Insommnia
Cell's Love Game
Evolution of Love
A GokuxVegeta Christmas

And btw, I do not write Piccolo yaoi. So that's all then.
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One more thing I hate about the fandom. People who won't give the Japanese version of the show a watch because "Goku sounds like a girl" "Vegeta doesn't sound manly" etc.

I've given the dub a try, and Kai at the very least I enjoy. The difference between dubs and subs, Kai and Z constantly divides the fandom in half. I like it better when everyone just gets along with one another and enjoys the fact that we're watching the series that we've all come to love.

I mean, look at Ruby and I. I'm not a fan of Vegeta, I detest Dragonball Evolution, I hate a lot of the dub, and we're still good friends just because we can enjoy the series together. If everyone could be like that, fandom on the whole, not just Dragon Ball wise, would be better.
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That's right, Kiyza. We'll always be pals! ^_^

I'd like to say that I think Goku sounds like a girl in both the sub and the dub. :P But I don't have a problem with the way Vegeta sounds in the sub version at all. I'm not sure but I think I may like Vegeta's voice better in the sub version.

I really don't mind the difference in the lines between the sub and dubbed versions. As long as I'm watching DBZ I'm happy, no matter what version it is (well, as long as it's uncut). I've watched every episode of DBZ in both sub and dub versions because I wanted the full effect of the series. I do enjoy the sub version a lot, it's just that my eyes get tired reading all those subtitles after a while. I honestly pull up a chair and sit right in front of the TV to read them, and I find the lines on the bottom of the screen distracting while I'm trying to watch the show. I'd rather just lay on the floor with my soda, put the DVD on marathon mode and just let that baby go! ^_^ It's much easier than being hunched over reading the screen all night.
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What bugs me more then anything is Shadow x (insert character here) pairings, cause I love Shadow and when I see a Shadow x Amy or whatever story I go mad!!!! READ THE LAST LINE ON MY SIGNITURE! U WILL SEE WHY!!!!
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I hear ya, Leah. I could just scream and throw my already busted laptop over a cliff over VegetaxBulma fics. I HATE BULMA! I HATE HER AND I WANT HER TO DIE!! One of the main reasons I became a yaoi writer was out of desperation to get Vegeta away from Bulma. I figured any pairing aside from her was fine, even if it's another man. (plus I really like yaoi anyway ;) ) If it gets Vegeta out of Bulma's bed and away from her, I'm happy.

End result-mad jealousy.There is only one BulmaxVegeta fic I'll read and it is posted right here by chaos_turismo. I actually helped chaos write it through my reviews back at FF.Net. End result-Bulma nearly dies when Vegeta's cooking gives her food poisoning. Yes! Score one for me! Take that Bulma!!
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*shoots Bulma* One for me! :P *shoots Bulma again* 2 points!
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I hate it when people pair a canon character with an OC and that canon character's already in a relationship. Ruby's fic's the only VegetaXOC fic I've seen where it's actually somewhat logical.

I find Bulma and Vegeta to make a great couple. They have so much in common. They're both angry all the time, egocentric, etc. They're probably one of the better thought out couples in the series if you ask me.
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*gives Leah high five* Right on! *blows up Bulma with ten tons of TNT* Die bitch Bulma!!

I hate Bulma and Vegeta as a couple for two reasons:
1. I'm insanely jealous and I want him all to myself (my lemon fics prove that ;) )
2.I think they are the WORST couple in the series. Bulma totally ruins Vegeta by making him soft. He's not a true Saiyan warrior because he hangs with her. SHE RUINED MY PRINCE!!!! I want Vegeta vicious, out of control and killing everyone and everything that gets in his way, majin style, forever.That's why I write my Vegeta & Rian story. It's an attempt to fix what went wrong in Vegeta's life by giving him a more decent woman, a real Saiyan woman like he should of had, so that he wouldn't get too soft. And as if it wasn't totally obvious by now, my OC Rian is me. I put myself in the story with him to live out my fantasy of how I think things should of gone. So Bulma can kiss my ass!
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:lol: This is fun! *buys an actual gun* DIE BITCH DIE! *shoots Bulma ten times and runs out of bullets* Crap, I ran out of bullets -_- <_< :angry: .
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Leah, I like your style! :) *shoots Bulma with a machine gun then beheads her with a battle ax* Leah, if I were to make an interactive Dragon Ball fic where we torture Bulma the way JoAnne does Sonic, would you care to join me?
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Sure! *loads bullets and shoots Bulmshit 103894835295479283548725938 times* :goku: *charges at Bulmshit with axe and chops her head off*

Bulmshit: :o *dies*

Me and Ruby: YAY! PARTY! _0-
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Awesome!! I know what my next fic is going to be about! *dumps Bulma into tank of sharks*

And btw, I really don't mind OCs paired with canon DBZ characters who are already married. People who do mind take things waaaay too seriously (no offense, Kiyza). I mean it's just fan fiction, there are no real rules to it. People don't need jutification, just their own imagination. Besides, Vegeta is mine just as Shadow belongs to Leah. Nuff said.

*kills Bulma and Amy with a missle launcher* No more Amy, Leah. Have at Shadow. He's all yours. Meanwhile, I'm taking Vegeta out on a hot date. ;)

P.S.Yeah, I'm a self insert OC and I don't care what anyone thinks!! I AM SUPER SAIYAN RIAN AND I WILL DESTROY BULMA!!

P.P.S is it obvious I'm on a sugar high tonight? O.O;
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Kewl, I'm going to go on a date with Shadow as well ^_^ .

Mwahahahaha, he's all mine... *kills Rouge* And now she's out the way as well!
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I'm not really into Yaoi. And the only main problem with DBZ is that...
Did Cell and Gohan REALLY have to clash Kamehamehas for an entire episode? I liked the scene a lot better in Budokai 1. Considering Gohan had a broken arm, I don't think he could pull it off that long anyway.

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Yes, yes he did. They need to pan out the episodes with a crap ton of filler, lest the series end up like InuYasha and Ruroni Kenshin. Of course, it was a lot shorter in the manga, like everything else. If you don't want it to last too long, just read faster. :P I've only seen the anime for around half the series, but I own all of the VIZ translated manga.

If I can teach myself kana between now next year, I'll be stalking Otakon with a wallet full of cash, on the prowl for kanzenban... :3
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Actually, I thought that battle with Gohan and Cell was totally intense and downright awesome. Fillers make the whole show. It creates suspense within the action. Aside from Goku and Vegeta's battles (which were the best in my mind) Gohan vs. Cell was one of the most epic battles of all time.
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