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| What just happened?; Linden Labs comes smashing in. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 24 2010, 10:08 PM (875 Views) | |
| Danielle Stormcrow-Bruhl | Nov 24 2010, 10:08 PM Post #1 |
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Hi, Jackson was asking for ways that we could still communicate with all of you what was going on. I thought of this, minutes before my head hit the pillow. First. Yes, BSG - 99, as well as all of the others have been effected by this. Some of chose to shut down for a minimum of the holiday weekend so that they can regroup and discuss. Kzru and Jackson have all of us at their best interest and heart. They want BSG to live. HOWEVER, Universal studios does not. At least in the sense of using the name Battlestar, BSG, Raptors, Vipers, or even Raiders to describe anything. So what does this mean? We do not know. Kzru and Jackson will have to decide. I can tell you after personally talking to Jackson on the phone tonight she is truly devastated. Our ships that were once close to complete or were complete have been taken apart in some places, it will take time to rebuild and move forward, that's if we find the how. So I as the SL wife to one owner and the sister to the other, ask that you please please, be patient with us. Ideas for the future are welcome, but realize things such as Star Trek, Star Wars are all going to at some point or other fall beneath a Linden hammer. We want something we can do with all of you for a long term goal and commitment, the time and the love that our builders and players put into their builds or even their personalities is unmatched. Each of you enjoy your holiday if your in the United States, shop for your loved ones on Friday if your able and remember families and friends is what we are all here for. ~ Dani |
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| Kzru | Nov 24 2010, 10:11 PM Post #2 |
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well LL and Universal just pulled the Battle star glatica sims they gave no worning tpd in and started returning things. so LLs idea of happy thanks giving is to rip the last 1 year RPing and building into shreds and then afer they have finished to hapily tell me happy thanks giving.. Sorry im 1 from the uk and 2 pissed off over the empty platitudes *sighs* dont im me wth idea or siugestions put them here in the forums and we will reayd through them thanks |
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| traci | Nov 24 2010, 10:44 PM Post #3 |
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Im here for the lonh haul |
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| Leslie Lightworker | Nov 25 2010, 01:24 AM Post #4 |
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yeah I know your from the UK, (can address that sometime later) there alleged "thanksgiving wishes" did not fall on any warmer reciprocal American ears either "empty platitudes" is well put.. that year measures the same over hear. be it less for me personally in 99 ....... I speak for myself.... I have NO interest in crawling back to LL or Universal as some whipped dog with some lame 1/2 asses knock off, hopping they do not crush us again.. my stand is to say "FRAK"((c)Universal copy written phrase, like "Colonial Warriors" what do you call American solders before the union then? Apparently my education, BY Universal attorneys violated Universal copy write) is to do what you do in support of someone worthy of that support .clearly Universal has choose the path Lucasarts (c) (Lucas arts copy written) and I say good luck to you stupid asses many gone before none come back the same. In 24 hours they manged to make 200 -ish enemies (guessing before that number gets jumped on) in what was a 4 year course to get those same fans. I know myself the fewer dealings I have with Universal and its bastard offspring the happier I will be and the broker they will, without the big publicity picket/boycott |
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| Cathiee | Nov 25 2010, 04:12 AM Post #5 |
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"but realize things such as Star Trek, Star Wars are all going to at some point or other fall beneath a Linden hammer" This is incorrect, statement, These 2 fanbases are allowed the limited Free Use copyright as described by they Companies that own them for fan base use. So it is doubtful you will find that these companies will come down on Second life Fans Since Trek lives because of its fans as does starwars. Read section 7 of your TOS : http://secondlife.com/corporate/tos.php#tos7 Linden Labs doesn't want a Lawsuit from Universal, Now if you check out the Lawfirm that is working on this I would not want to go against them with their history http://www.k-alaw.com/ "Both served in senior positions with the MPAA’s Anti-Piracy program (as North American Director of Anti-Piracy Operations, and as U.S. Legal Director of Anti-Piracy Operations.) " Other companies have written special copyright use for fandom. Again everyone forgot what happened to the Dune rp in sl how Herberts estate came down hard on them. This was in the making Since July when the first people got hit by Universal on Xstreet. You all also need to Understand that the Lawfirm is required to tell Linden labs exactly what content needs to be removed which means that the lawfirm most likely had several people in the sims for Months collecting information. Your best bet is to revamp the designs of your stuff. Battle Cruiser Athena, Cobra Fighters, Cylanoids, Skin Jobs...you can still play the theme of the show just different flavours. Or look for a different sci-fi to do. Sorry it happened as it did. We all have spent many hours creating and playing in BSG. |
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| Mads | Nov 25 2010, 04:15 AM Post #6 |
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I have emailed their legal contact and await a reply. |
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| Leslie Lightworker | Nov 25 2010, 09:54 AM Post #7 |
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"Battle Cruiser Athena, Cobra Fighters, Cylanoids, Skin Jobs...you can still play the theme of the show just different flavours." That falls under the "I speak for myself.... I have NO interest in crawling back to LL or Universal as some whipped dog with some lame 1/2 asses knock off, hopping they do not crush us again" they were called "Cobras" It was Warstar Athena, meant nothing to the legal arm or Linden Labs. |
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| Danielle Stormcrow-Bruhl | Nov 25 2010, 10:40 AM Post #8 |
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Thanks Cathiee for the info. Here's the point I failed at making at such a late hour last night, maybe a little more abrupt and exact. I'd much rather have Mercia (Kz and I's home) back rather than see us attempt to do another Star Wars or Star Trek themed sim. Why? Because I don't want anything to do with either of them, if I did, I'd already be in one wouldn't I? Now, there is to be some kind of meeting between the main BSG sim owners, over the weekend, look for another update this coming sunday night or Monday. ~ Danielle |
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| Mads | Nov 25 2010, 01:47 PM Post #9 |
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There are no plans for us to be doing a Star Wars or Star Trek sim. We just need to take some time, wait till the US holidays are over and see what Universal has to say. That's all we can do for now, there's no use doing anything rash, there are a lot of avenues left to explore. |
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| Leslie Lightworker | Nov 25 2010, 09:08 PM Post #10 |
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http://www.examiner.com/second-life-in-harrisburg/breaking-news-ll-forced-by-universal-to-remove-battlestar-content-from-sl |
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| Pappy | Nov 25 2010, 10:28 PM Post #11 |
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I suggest we try to turn people away from the BSGMMO thast gonna to be released... then Universal will learn to treat there Fans with Respect and Courtesy... Boycott them!!!!!!!!! |
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| Leslie Lightworker | Nov 26 2010, 12:46 AM Post #12 |
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The problem mads is while the days drag on the interest is waning...I myself have lost 50% of my Give a rip value ......if this is Universals/comcast attitude towards people trying to be part of their alleged vision, apathy seems a proper reply .....truly a case of less of them is more satisfying.....simply a case of "the further you are form me the happier i am and the broker you are" which suits me fine....good luck .... bon voage...... go with G-d, but DO go |
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| Cathiee | Nov 26 2010, 04:43 AM Post #13 |
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I am curious what the meeting of the BSG owners is expected to do? Lets face it their are so many BSG sims cause the sims could not get on with each other. How would this change in light of the events that just happened. Lets also not forget the BSG sims at one point were fighting over who stole what textures from whom. So i am curious to see how the owners/Admins of the sims what they will do since alot of you have already sent E-mails to the lawfirm and not including all the people who are going to spam attack them, just going to make it worse. |
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| Kevin Ghost | Nov 26 2010, 10:13 AM Post #14 |
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I like Leslie's Idea of Yamoto or maybe a different named Ship from history that we name our battleship Because lets face it you cant copyright history. Or do a WW2 sim based on BSg but do it with class. |
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| Kzru | Nov 26 2010, 10:16 AM Post #15 |
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Better than sitting there trying to tell people your safe when well they did it get DUNE and they have done it to Startrec and Starwars.. 2002 was the year lucas pissed off 90% of his fan bace and he is still regretting it and still having shair holders ask him what was he thinking. The last dune book whent from top 20 to not even making the top 100 .. boycott and do some thing insted of letting the atraphy set in |
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