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ROUND FOUR
Topic Started: Jul 13 2010, 11:23 PM (169 Views)
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Round Four has me REALLY nervous. I realy would like to go after Rachel. The girl is fast fast fast in challenges, won;t do alliances, but I think she has a deal with both Matt and Ragan. Both of them say how much they like her, how cute her schtick is, etc.
I also cannot keep my deals with Britney, Kathy, and Andrew secret much longer. And tbh I don't think the Big 5 alliance really exists in anything other than name only. I think at this point all of us are guilty of making deals on the side, with the Big 5 just giving us a support in terms of numbers.

I'm just hoping a few things happen:

1. My weakness in challenges makes me less of a threat than, say, Monet

2. Britney continues to trust me and tell me all the info she's getting from her fakealliance with Matt and Ragan

3. Andrew trusts me, and won't put me up

4. Lane and Kathy useless themselves into getting nommed

But none of these things are guaranteed to happen, so I'm very nervous. :(
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Convo with Monet. For this round, she is my best ally, because we both want Rachel gone.

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You want me to vote out Hayden right? :lol:


Yes please :lol: Thanks girl.


Omg you are so the challenge goddess! <3 You've won like almost every challenge so far.


Hopefully people aren't intimidated by me :unsure:

As for the next round, I know you have your eyes on Rachel. She really is a fast bitch.


Yes I do think that Rachel's really fast, and I also worry that she has a deal with Matt and Ragan. I have no idea why I think she does, call it woman's intuition. <3



:o Do you think so?

It would make the most sense at this point to take her out anyway. I've actually entertained the idea of a return twist, and we can't have her and Brendon together.


Well see both of them every time I toss her name out there, deflect it. and they say she's so cute, and honest, and her schtick is just her schtick but she's so sweet, and blah blah blah. :rolleyes: I've noticed this for two rounds but haven't wanted to say anyhting because I don't want to seem bitchy against Little Miss Sunshine.


:popcorn That's interesting. I just suggested Rachel to Matt and he didn't object to it, but we'll see what happens if one of them actually gets HOH.




And what do you think of Gaga's banner? An outcast twist? An outsider twist? :o


I have no idea what to expect :wub Maybe it connects to that hidden clue thing.

An outcast twist wouldn't really be a big deal. They were easy to get out :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: I love your bitchiness. It's so fierce! <3


It's starting to rub off on you, too. In a good way <3 I love your feud with Rachel.


Her whole entire thing just ANNOYS me. Like today she pm'ed me being like, "Why isn't anyone PM'ing me?" And ti's all the self control in the world not to be like "because your hearts and flowers and true love <3 schtick is annoying as fuck and I don't want to deal with it anymore" but instead I wrote "It's a quiet day." :rolleyes:


:lol: I think Matt just sort of implied he wants Lane gone. Your killer instincts might be right! If so, we need to act on that shit immediately :wub

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My operation to get rid of Rachel continues:

This is my PM exchange with Kathy

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She got into a fight with Hayden, who's gone. That's what I'm worried about. If she wins HoH, she no longer has Hayden to target, so she;s gonna target the people who evicted Brendon. :(


Fuck, but still Andrew can compete, and the odds she'll win aren't TOO great. I'm just sucking up to her right now and seeing where her head is at. She still doesn't really know who evicted Brendon I think, but I could be wrong. =/


I don;t know WHAT she thinks. SHe's so hearts and flowers and love and sunshine and won't get any deeper than that with me. But you saw the way she fought for HoH. I think she:

1. Is more of a player than we'd thought. I think she and Ragan and Matt have something going on

2. The "I don't make alliances" is a way for her to not make alliances ... with people she isn't already in an alliance with


Yeah for sure, and omg I never thought of that! She could obviously just say that and... omg I can't believe I've never thought of that before! =o She does need to go now, especially with the last part.


I mean, if she really missed Brendon that much, wouldn't she want to be ... in loser lodge with him? But the way she fought for that HoH means that she's really playing to win. And plus, the way she always signs in to play veto proves that obviously, she has a plan. It just doesn't include us.
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I guess if this round is all about hating on Rachel, can I say that her signature is annoying as fuck? She is just annoying as fuck. I can't even recall the last time I've been as annoyed with someone in an ORG.
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These are great, Kristen. <3 As usual! :wub

So what do you think the thread in the main house could mean/be?

Do you think you could get more of the others on board with targeting Rachel next round? Have you talked to the others in your alliance about this? Who would you put up beside her?

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WAIT WUT? You don't think true love is beautiful? How mean! :(
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GaGa,Jul 14 2010
05:31:11 AM
These are great, Kristen. <3 As usual! :wub

So what do you think the thread in the main house could mean/be?

Do you think you could get more of the others on board with targeting Rachel next round? Have you talked to the others in your alliance about this? Who would you put up beside her?

They all SAY they're onboard, and I think Kathy agrees with me too. But I'm just gonna look like the big bad villain here against sweet innocent Rachel, I know it. :rolleyes:
I'd probably put up ... Kathy? If only because then I KNOW Rachel would leave.
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You really think they'll think you're a villain for targeting Rachel? ^_^ OMG <3
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05:47:05 AM
You really think they'll think you're a villain for targeting Rachel? ^_^ OMG <3

Well not exactly a villain, but I guess more a HBIC, whereas beforehand Monet had been the HBIC of the Big 5 alliance, and I had been more the person behind the scenes.
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Very true, I just think it'll pay off to tread carefully. Some of the challenge whores need to GTFO soon though, like really. Or else they're going to stomp all over us. I thought I was good at challenges, they're all fucking better <_<

:lol: Fair enough... though the thought of Lane making the jury makes me want to puke, not gunna lie  -_-


I know, Lane making jury is puke-inducing. But you are right about the need to tread carefully. I mean, Ragan is trying AGAIN to rope me into saying something nasty about Rachel, and I'm not. I just pointed out that she's very good in challenges, and that with Hayden gone, she'll likely go after the people who were the most open about voting out Brendon.


I just sent him a congrats on staying PM, ugh, I guess I should make nice to him since there's a chance he WILL survive next round and MIGHT win HOH (lol if he does). Ragan does that shit a lot, and then backtracks and agrees with whatever you're saying if you don't trash that person like he wants. It's so fake.


Then get this, he's like "I'm down with getting rid of Rachel." But he throws HoH constantly, and always is careful to only trash people he thinks are on their way out. And then he's always like "If you have something you want to get off your chest tell me your bestest gay friend" and that shit is already annoying.
I am kissing Andrew's ass now, because he's a fast fucker, and he needs to use his challenge prowess for good purposes ... i.e., not being stupid and doing what Ragan and Matt tell him. :rolleyes:


I'd be like *takes that comment back to Rachel* except that'd get so messy :lol: Ragan throws challenges so obviously, it's kind of sad. Kathy might legit be bad, I'm not sure, but Ragan's CLEARLY not even trying. :rolleyes: He's so obviously fishing for you to start trashing Rachel, he's all but flashing a neon sign.

But if Matt's spreading that you, him and Annie have something going on, you should exploit that :lol: Somehow. Either way, yeah, he needs to stop trusting those two. <_<


I told Andrew how I was upset that the rumor was me/him/Annie were an alliance. And he was like "Oh ... well aren't we?" :rolleyes: But I think if I told him Matt told me that he'd just go right back to Matt and "confront" him and that would be so so ugly in so many ways.

Yeah Ragan always makes stupid jokes during challenges, and actively throws them. Others might be slow, or throwingthem in style, but Ragan's just like openly throwing them. While we're at it this "Omgay I'm so innocent," act is wearing thin. This is exactly why people shouldnt align like a few minutes after the game board opens and then be stuck in a big, unwieldy, not-very-trustworthy alliance. :lol: I suppose that's my own fucking fault though. :lol:
He also told me that Rachel told him she wouldn't put up Monet because Monet is such a "star" in challenges. And I'm thinking, then you're discussing with Rachel who she'd put up. :rolleyes:


:lol: :lol: Yeah I could see that getting ugly. Shouldn't Andrew be a little more upset that you guys are "out of the bag" or something though? :popcorn He's really not making much sense to me.

You'd think Ragan would make an effort to cover that up..? He's just basically flaunting that he doesn't feel like he needs HOH at all and isn't in any danger, that's really not very smart, even though I would encourage him to dig his hole a little deeper with each round ;) His shtick is grating me too, tbh... I wish I had stayed up and talked more that first night. I KNEW it would get me in trouble to leave so early and let alliances form without me, but I still left anyway <_< But I'm glad you're LOVING them all so much :P

Ugh. Yeah, okay, they're all aligned. Fuck that shit. Is there ANYBODY in this game that Ragan/Matt aren't aligned with?!


No I don't think so. I think Matt was pretty tight with the boys of Hayden and Brendon. He's now "tight" with you, and he might have something with Rachel going on. I think Andrew certainly runs back and tells him everything. But the thing with Matt though is that he's kind of doing it in an easygoing style that doesn't draw suspicion, and he's been lucky that his side deals all left without much drama.
Ragan though, I think is more dangerous, because:
1. You can't rely on him to win HoH, or veto
2. He's a shit stirrer and good at it. and he has way as I said of bating others into saying something bad, and then being all "cool" for it.
And as for the Big Five Alliance, yeah, we all love each other so much. :lol: To be honest though when it implodes, and it will, you can really just sit om the side and :popcorn. And no one even mentions your name, ever. I think considering we only REALLY talked two nights ago, we've done good work.
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Oh also, I usually don't make ID guesses, but I'm gonna make my first one:

Monet = Will/Android

Minority character? Check.
Challenge whore? Check.
Bitchy personality? Check.

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My latest PM to Britney. Btw for the admins, the Big 5 alliance is myself, Matt, Monet, Annie, and Ragan. The Wallflower Alliance is me, Britney and Kathy.
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Oops sorry here it is:

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How's this ofr an idea. And feel free to shoot it down if you think it's a shitty one:

How about you go up to Andrew and say that look, Andrew, I think there's a big alliance in the house, and I think neither you or him are part of it. He'll of course go a little crazy and ask you to cough up names, and say that you're not EXACTLY sure but you think it's Ragan, Matt, and if pressed more you say you think it also includes Kristen and Annie, because they all voted as a bloc to get out Brendon. After this, kind of suggest that you think that since he's not part of that alliance, you think that you guys should snag up whoever is lowest in the Big5 alliance totem pole. I BET he'll cough up my name, because I talk to him a lot, whereas some of the others (Monet, Ragan even) don't give him the time of day. That way, there can be a way to snag him since you're looked upon in this house as not sneaky, and very neutral. Andrew is a fast challenge whore, and we REALLY need him in the Wallflower Alliance, but I feel like the invitation can't come from me, because if I'm in the Big 5 alliance supposedly, it will look really shady that I;m inviting him into another alliance. But if you do it, it will look like good strategy, and he's more likely to keep his trap shut.
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My Pm's with Britney are just amazing:

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How's this ofr an idea. And feel free to shoot it down if you think it's a shitty one:

How about you go up to Andrew and say that look, Andrew, I think there's a big alliance in the house, and I think neither you or him are part of it. He'll of course go a little crazy and ask you to cough up names, and say that you're not EXACTLY sure but you think it's Ragan, Matt, and if pressed more you say you think it also includes Kristen and Annie, because they all voted as a bloc to get out Brendon. After this, kind of suggest that you think that since he's not part of that alliance, you think that you guys should snag up whoever is lowest in the Big5 alliance totem pole. I BET he'll cough up my name, because I talk to him a lot, whereas some of the others (Monet, Ragan even) don't give him the time of day. That way, there can be a way to snag him since you're looked upon in this house as not sneaky, and very neutral. Andrew is a fast challenge whore, and we REALLY need him in the Wallflower Alliance, but I feel like the invitation can't come from me, because if I'm in the Big 5 alliance supposedly, it will look really shady that I;m inviting him into another alliance. But if you do it, it will look like good strategy, and he's more likely to keep his trap shut.

What do you think?


I got your other message too and that's what I'm worried about, fucking Ragan hearing about it all... because if I go to Andrew and try that, coughing up my "allies" names would probably screw me if he decided to take it all back to Ragan. I doubt he's close to Monet, but isn't he close to Annie as well?

I could mention the possibility of a larger alliance that doesn't include Andrew and I, and see how receptive he might be to that idea. If he isn't, I'll just back off before I say any names..? Deal is that when the 5-4 vote came to light, Andrew and I discussed about the votes and whether or not we thought the Hayden voters were organized. He seemed to think neither side was organized :unsure:

I agree though that we need someone like Andrew on our side....he's still the most plausible person to pull out of Andrew/Annie/Rachel/Monet -_- How much stock do you think Monet/Annie put into your group alliance?


Ok Annie is hard to get a read on. She's not online very much. But when she is, she kind of at least on the surface toes the line and votes how the Big 5 wants. She had a side deal with Hayden, I know that, and one with Andrew as well.
Monet I think tbh just enjoys being HBIC, and uses the Big 5 to get what she wants. Like there would have been hell to pay if someone had stray voted against Hayden last night. The issue with Monet is she's such a strong challenge player that while I think Matt and Ragan only tolerate her, they are afraid of going against her word.
Ragan and Matt have so many side deals (with you, Andrew, Kathy, Rachel, and I'm guessing in Matt's case Lane) that they probably also use the Big 5 for safety purposes but little else. But no one in the Big 5 really enjoys each other's company.
I agree, the best thing for you to is to say that you think there's a big alliance in the game, and he and you arent part of it. And then watch him cough up names. If he doesn't, then he's a dumbass. If he does, then he can't really run back to Matt and Ragan and rat us out, because he was the one who decided they were in an alliance in the first place right?


Annie's quite closed off unless she thinks it's safe to share info. She repeatedly drops PMs with me, which is basically an indication that I'm completely expendable to her.. which is fine, but I think she'll be the first of that alliance to bring up my name <_< Monet and I have a sort of side deal, but we don't really talk game so I dunno how legit it is. I wish she wasn't part of that alliance, because I think pulling her in would be beneficial to us. -_-

Ragan hates people who only send one or two lines in PMs.... Monet fits that bill, but he's been very careful not to badmouth her at all. Matt/Ragan are DEFINITELY afraid of what Monet could/would do to them.

Yeah, I'll bring it up with Andrew and see what he says. If I tell him I think there's a big alliance out there and he shoots me down, then he's an absolute idiot and lost cause to not even entertain the possibility of it being true.


Omg, Wallflower Bitches being the brains in the house! <3 Ragan has said to me at times that he's "at best friendly" with Monet, but that might have been a baiting tactic. But I think since Ragan throws everything, he's afraid of pissing Monet off, as you said.
if Annie drops PM's with you then I'm in trouble with her too, because while she doesn't exactly drop PM's, she sometimes doesn't PM for long, and the only time I think she was worried was when Andrew won HoH, and there had been a little drama with Brendon telling Andrew that Annie had brought Andrew's name up when the opposite was true. She also was worried last night when she told Kathy that Kathy might go up, and Kathy freaked out.
And yes, if Andrew hasn't figured out that there's a big alliance which he's not part of, then he is just too stupid to even try to use for anything other than being a challenge whore. <_<
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