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ROUND SIX; My fucking god
Topic Started: Jul 16 2010, 12:14 AM (229 Views)
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Ok I guess this round shortened my options more than ever. I can't rely on Monet to be anything but an unpredictable, annoying, bossy bitch. I'm out of the loop if there really was a plan to backdoor Monet. And poor Brit, taking the blame, and not being able to play HoH next round. :(
I really need to regroup. I'm in the F8, but somehow this all seems empty when I gained absolutely no advantage today.
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Ok Annie really pitching it now:

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There was a plan to backdoor Monet? :blink:


No, there never was. Kathy will have everybody believe that though.


Ok, because for awhile I really felt very out of the loop. And I didn't even know how to ask you, I just kept hearing rumors. :(


Oh my god. I've been saying this all round. KATHY TALKS SHIT AND SPREADS LIES TO EVERYBODY. All I've said is that I want Kathy out. I didn't just make this up out of thin air.


Ok, well, from what I was told by Kathy, the plan to backdoor Monet included Ragan and Andrew ... I honestly felt very out of the loop. :unsure:


There was no plan to backdoor her. Kathy immediately told Ragan that I was talking about "backdooring" her and Ragan was shocked. He had no idea what was going on and confronted me about it right away. I honestly didn't think this was such a big deal because it didn't mean anything. I was just saying "a player like Monet should be backdoored". I'm sorry that I used her as an example now since it set me up for all of this shit.


Well I'm sorry, but I guess now that Kathy is gone hopefully the Big 5 can settle down again and regroup, I think there was a lot of distrust all around this round.


There was and I just blame it on Kathy and Britney. Everything that could have gone wrong DID go wrong and it was only fixed by the coup d'etat. I think the Big 5 has been disorganized for a while. We need to come together if we want to survive.


Yeah, we have been. I really didn't even want to PM people because I just didn't know how my words could get twisted. :rolleyes:


I'm just going to say this again even though I might be sounding like a broken record but I have been 100% committed to this alliance. I don't really feel that everybody else has. Monet and I are the only ones to win HOH and I know that I personally have been upfront and fair with everybody in the alliance in deciding my nominations, and I think we all agreed with Monet's as well except for her Ragan nomination this round (but I see her reasoning behind it). If people want to twist MY words around they can do it but I'm done proving my loyalty at this point. If people are going to doubt me then I'm just going to ask... what the fuck for?

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I am glad Kathy didn't out me though while she and Monet and Annie were bitchfighting. That would have been bad if she did. :lol:
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Trying to do major damage control with Monet:

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Please vote that bitch Kathy out.


After this round can you tell me more about why you decided to do that? <3


I'll tell you everything!


Alright please do because right now I'm confused. I thought you didn't even like Annie or Matt.


My opinion has changed a little bit. I feel like I can trust Annie, and potentially losing her and leaving in somebody who I don't trust was risky. Do you understand the whole backdoor thing?


I'm not saying you didn't do the right thing, but I just wish you had told me. And plus, I had heard ALL DAY that there was a plan to backdoor you. I have no idea what to believe anymore.


I didn't tell anyone if that makes a difference. I just decided to keep it to myself and almost chose not to use it.

Who was throwing my name out there for a backdoor plan?


You know what? It doesn't even matter anymore, since no one ever forwarded me concrete PM's, it was just a lot of rumors. But I guess in the end it didnt even matter.


Well, Britney told me I almost went up but she stopped because too many people agreed to vote me off. I just wonder who those ones are, because they were likely the ones who told you all that.


Mind you, no one ever told me anything concrete. It was just "___ said that they would backdoor Monet." They probably think we're close and that I would tell. I don't know what to think anymore about anyone.


Can you tell me whose name fills the blank? I promise I won't run and tell anyone anything, but I'm dying to know.

Or was it actually a blank? :lol:




Monet, after you used the coup without telling me, I kind of wonder if I can tell you anything anymore without you freaking out. But ok, the names I heard were Andrew, Rachel, Matt, and Ragan. But as I said, it was all secondhand, so I don't know how true any of this is.


What does it matter if I used the coup without telling you? I didn't tell anyone else, so it's not like I purposely left you out of the loop while gabbing about it to other people.

If this heard second-hand, can you tell me who gave you those names? I swear on everything that is holy I won't tell anyone except the DR. I just would really like to know who I need to look out for.


well, uh, Kathy was the one who first approached me. But while she was HoH, Britney told me that she was getting pressure to backdoor you too. Matt and Ragan kept avoiding me during that whole time, and so did Andrew.


I wonder if those were the people who told Britney they'd evict me when she went around asking.

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Omg Ragan just incriminated himself!

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Ok Gaygan, you gotta tell me what is going on. I feel very very out of the loop now. I mean, there was a whole plan to use the coup and I never got told of this? And I never got told that you guys were talking of backdooring Monet?


I feel out of the loop two! :rwub :owub :ywub :gwub :bwub :pwub

Tell me what you do know, and then I'll fill in your blank wholes. If it's any consolation, I had no idea that Monet had the coup.


Ok this is what I was told by Kathy: that you and Matt planned to backdoor Monet, or were talking about it.
And then when Brit won HoH, she said Andrew used the veto on Rachel and that Monet was going to get backdoored. But then she put up Matt, without telling me. It's all very confusing, but basically, if you really talked of backdooring Monet with Andrew or Matt, I mean, I don;t know, I feel like you should have told me too. :unsure:


Yeah, that's pretty much it. I don't know how Kathy found out, but whoever told her was right on the money.

Kristen, I would've told you, but every time I brought up Monet, you ONLY had positive things to say about her. I felt like you never would've been okay with it, so it was just easier to leave you out of the equation.

I've never been close with Monet. She's short with me in PMs, at least she is when she returns them. She has always been a wildcard - voting Hayden out week two is proof of that. I just don't clik with her.

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Yay the guilt trip is working on Monet and she didn't even DO anything to me! :lol: I just want to keep that goddamn target OFF my back though.

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Ok I got it from the horse's mouth:

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Ok Gaygan, you gotta tell me what is going on. I feel very very out of the loop now. I mean, there was a whole plan to use the coup and I never got told of this? And I never got told that you guys were talking of backdooring Monet?


I feel out of the loop two! :rwub :owub :ywub :gwub :bwub :pwub

Tell me what you do know, and then I'll fill in your blank wholes. If it's any consolation, I had no idea that Monet had the coup.


Ok this is what I was told by Kathy: that you and Matt planned to backdoor Monet, or were talking about it.
And then when Brit won HoH, she said Andrew used the veto on Rachel and that Monet was going to get backdoored. But then she put up Matt, without telling me. It's all very confusing, but basically, if you really talked of backdooring Monet with Andrew or Matt, I mean, I don;t know, I feel like you should have told me too. :unsure:


Yeah, that's pretty much it. I don't know how Kathy found out, but whoever told her was right on the money.

Kristen, I would've told you, but every time I brought up Monet, you ONLY had positive things to say about her. I felt like you never would've been okay with it, so it was just easier to leave you out of the equation.

I've never been close with Monet. She's short with me in PMs, at least she is when she returns them. She has always been a wildcard - voting Hayden out week two is proof of that. I just don't clik with her.



Thanks for sending this! Like I said, I won't say a word.

I don't know how you feel about me anymore, and if the same trust you had before is still there. But I sincerely trust you with all my heart and you are the last person I would expect to backstab me, so I just hope we're still cool. In hindsight, I should've told you about the coup but I just wanted to keep it all to myself for shock value :wub

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Also, Britney needs to pm me VERY soon, or I will think she is in cahoots with Ragan and Matt.
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Oh god, Matt still denying denying denying even after Ragan admitted the whole plan.

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Ok now that the round is over, I'm just going to say it to you straight: was there ever a plan by you and Ragan and Annie to backdoor Monet? I really wnat to know, because after tonight i have no idea who to believe anymore.


Um, no. There was talk yes, but I would never go with it. And Annie had nothing to do with it. I didn't want her out but people did say they did. This just got blown the fuck up. I knew there was shit going on behind my back. Was I a target then by a lot of people?


No I don;t think so. But I got told a lot of information today, and I'm just trying to figure out what is true and what is not. I mean, I'm not trying to sound bitchy, but I feel like a fifth wheel in the five-person alliance if I wasn't even TOLD of any of this.


I thought you were like our leader :lol: But no, I just brushed off the Monet thing becuase I didn't think people were going to do it. No way. I didn't even know it was a huge issue until now. Sorry about that, I feel like shit that you felt I was being a bitch :lol:

I don't know what happened tonight but Britney told me I was safe and then nommed me without telling me. She told me I was just a pawn though so Idk.


I don't know, I really don't know what to believe anymore. But I do think that if the Big 5 is going to work at all there needs to be more communication. All this happened and no one even pm'ed me. :(


Well like I said, I thought this shit was squashed. I didn't realize people had been talking about it for days now. Obviously people were though, so yeah, communication is they key. Do you think Ragan is mad at Monet though?


Actually, Ragan pretty much admitted to me that he did indeed talk about backdooring Monet. :rolleyes:


Well yeah, the talk was there. I'm not going to lie. I'm just saying I thought it was over. No one had talked to me about it for a while. Which is why I didn't think it was shit. Everyone told me Kathy tonight so I thought Kathy. But then I guess people were after Annie? That was kinda shocking as well. Our alliance members had our alliance members as number one targets and shit. What in the world are we doing for next round. I feel like no one is trusting anyone anymore.


Well I think what everyone needs to do is get a good night's sleep, this freaking out and screaming to each other in pm's is doing no one any good. But one thing is I had NO idea how much Ragan disliked Monet until tonight.
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OMG these are awesome. <3

This night has been fucking insane, AS USUAL!

I love how you wouldn't name names with Monet, than tried to say her not telling you about the coup was somehow something that she kept from you, and you couldn't trust her, way to twist it, I love it. :lol:

OMG Kristen, you fucking rock!

So where does this leave you now? Do you think anyone suspects you of anything, or are you in the clear?

And I noticed you throwing Britney under the bus a tad, do you think it will get back to her at all that you've said things, and how do plan to combat it if it does?

Also, has she PMed you yet? where do you two stand?
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GaGa,Jul 16 2010
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OMG these are awesome. <3

This night has been fucking insane, AS USUAL!

I love how you wouldn't name names with Monet, than tried to say her not telling you about the coup was somehow something that she kept from you, and you couldn't trust her, way to twist it, I love it. :lol:

OMG Kristen, you fucking rock!

So where does this leave you now? Do you think anyone suspects you of anything, or are you in the clear?

And I noticed you throwing Britney under the bus a tad, do you think it will get back to her at all that you've said things, and how do plan to combat it if it does?

Also, has she PMed you yet? where do you two stand?

I think people might suspect I have a thing with Britney, but since I deliberately have kept silent about everything she's told me, I think both sides actually still trust me a lot. I just think now the battle lines in the house are pretty clear between me/Monet/Annie and Ragan/Matt/Andrew/Rachel.
I didn't mean to throw Britney under a bus, I just told the truth which is I heard of the plan to backdoor Monet despite the best efforts of Ragan. But it's better to guilttrip everyone rather than to admit that I've been playing both the Big 5 and Kathy/Britney for a couple rounds now.
I mean, this is really making lemonade out of lemon, but I feel like my "I'm innocent, and I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that you all are so sneaky" act is the best way to be at this crazy time. :lol:
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My latest missive to Monet:

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I think the best thing would be to like maybe make a FAKE olive branch to the whole alliance, saying, "Yeah, let's work together," and trick Ragan and Matt into throwing HoH again. Meanwhile work your ass off to get HoH and get that scheming gay couple split up for good!


That would be smart. Right now they're probably going to play it to win, I assume. But if they feel safe enough, they'll throw <3 Good thinking.


Also, we need to strongarm Brit into joining us. Say that an alliance of four with me, you, Annie is better than being the fifth wheel in that Andrew/Rachel/Matt/Ragan alliance.
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The mission to make Brit an offer she can't refuse continues. Strategizing with Monet.
Honestly, I love that I have this confessional, because I tell such a mixture of half-truths and lies to people in PM's, that I need to keep them consistent. :lol:

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I think the best thing would be to like maybe make a FAKE olive branch to the whole alliance, saying, "Yeah, let's work together," and trick Ragan and Matt into throwing HoH again. Meanwhile work your ass off to get HoH and get that scheming gay couple split up for good!


That would be smart. Right now they're probably going to play it to win, I assume. But if they feel safe enough, they'll throw <3 Good thinking.


Also, we need to strongarm Brit into joining us. Say that an alliance of four with me, you, Annie is better than being the fifth wheel in that Andrew/Rachel/Matt/Ragan alliance.


We should try it. I'm not sure how she feels about me anymore, though. :lol: If you want to get that started tonight, I'm for it. Although she might feel skeptical after nominating Annie and everything.


Well, uh, she finally responded to my PM, and said Ragan admitted there was a big 5 alliance. Good, let Ragan keep talking his way out of the house. It is 3 AM but I am going to send her a PM saying, "Look, this is the deal." She doesn't have to trust us, she just has to know that she has no other options.


Did Ragan tell her who was involved in it? I'm so ready for a fight but I'm not that stupid! :wub We'll do the fighting when they get nominated Sunday.



Yes he did. He is dumber than I thought. :lol:


When she told you what he said, did she act in a confrontational matter or what? Hopefully she picks the right side :wub You just know she'll claim loyalty to both sides, but I can't help but wonder if she'll be sincere with us.


She was like, "So, I've sensed this for a long time, but Ragan told me about the 5 person alliance." But whatever the case, I am trying to drill it into her head that there is a four person deal between Matt/Ragan/Andrew/Rachel, and she needs to join us, otherwise she will go the way of poor Kathy, who tried to play both sides and failed miserably. I think the time to be nice is over.


She just brought it up to me somewhat. She said the big alliance has imploded, and I'm just acting like it was on shaky ground forever, which is kind of true.



That is true. Right now the next round is just all-out war. But I hope after this round, you trust me. I mean, when Brit told me she was considering putting you up to backdoor you, I told her to put up Matt. Thankfully you had the coup so it wouldn't have mattered, but I think I might have permanently burned some bridges after tonight.


I trust you completely. I was only worried about you no longer trusting me.

Those bridges were always going to be burned eventually. The boys have just been itching to backstab. Has Brit said anything yet? Because she hasn't replied to me :unsure:




She told me she was backlogged in PM's, but she said that Ragan wants to "work it out" with her and she replied that she doesn't even know what she can do. ^_^ I think she's pissed at him because he tried to pin the backdooring thing on her for a bit, before he finally fessed up.


That's good info. We could maybe even say the boys tried to climb back with us and blamed the backdoor on her. She sounds pretty nervous about the upcoming round.


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Meanwhile, I'm chatting with Matt about drunk dialing, drunk texting, getting stoned, and whether I like the Rihanna/Eminem song. :lol:
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The latest exchange with Britney:

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Here is the newest plan: I am going to talk to Monet about the fact that now that she KNOWS Ragan and Matt were selling her out, you HAVE to be included in the alliance if she has any shot of not being picked off the next round. I think it's the only way both of us can watch them fight like cats and dogs and come up looking innocent. And yes, this sounds horrible, but BLAME KATHY must be in full effect now. FYI I told Monet that I first heard about it from Kathy.

Ok Brit here is the plan. Monet is down with this plan. I told her that I was going to "strongarm" you into joining me/Monet/Annie I guess, since Annie kinda talked herself into a corner. Monet at this point has NO idea how much we've spoken, I think she assumed you were a floater. You are going to send her a PM saying you hope she trusts you because you put up Matt even up against great pressure, etc. And then we can still come out of this smelling like roses.
Sound like a plan? <3


Okay I combined your last two PMs because I'm still backlogged. I'm also semi distracted.

You telling people you heard from Kathy is perfect, because it goes along with what I'm telling Ragan about me ONLY telling Kathy, and her running her mouth. This round is making me feel like absolute shit for pinning all this on her. But, it must be done.

What do you mean Annie talked her way into a corner? And I can do that... I'll just bring it up when the convo gives me a chance.

Ragan wants to work with me to get out of this mess. I told him I wasn't sure what we could do. -_- This is chaos.

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Wow Ragan tells all to Britney. Well ... guess what, I already did the exact same thing with Britney way earlier. So none of this is news to her, and he has no idea how close I am to Brit.

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I haven't been completely honest with you, Britney. After this message, you're welcome to leave me out to dry. I wouldn't be offended. Please, just hear me out first.

On the second day of this game, Kristen pulled me into an alliance with herself, Monet, Annie, Matt and me. I HATED this alliance so much. First of all, I had hardly talked to Monet at the time. She was a mystery to me. Plus, I thought Annie was shady as all get out. The reason it really irked me was because you weren't in it. I felt like we hit it off the best in the beginning, so I didn't know what to do. I had a couple of options: I could try to bring you in or I could keep it a secret.

I kept it a secret. Five people for an alliance is a ton. I thought that surely, this alliance won't last. It HAS to implode. Then the next three boots went so smoothly, that I started to wonder if it would ever break up. That's when we aligned, which was something I planned on keeping. It was a deal that I chose to make, not an alliance I was forced into.

Then, you, Matt, Andrew and I didn't really start working together... But there was a comraderie between us. I felt like I could actually trust you guys - which is a completely different scenario than what I felt with Annie, Monet and Kristen (Kristen who I didn't want to know about you and Andrew, Monet who doesn't like me, and Annie who never logged on).

So, I decided to try to get rid of Monet to help that alliance out the door. That's why I wanted you to nominate Monet and Annie - Kristen would be forced to decide, and hopefully she would pick the wrong person. I wanted that alliance to be done with, because I actually trusted you and Andrew.

You know I don't get along with Monet - she even nominated me tonight. Annie doesn't talk to me, and I was so ready to vote her out when she was up against Rachel (I didn't think it would be possible, though).

If you can't forgive me, that's fine.  I just have to come clean. This game has put so much pressure on me, and after being nominated tonight, I know what I have to do.


Keep this between you and I... well I don't think there's anything really incriminating in there, but I don't have Kathy to blame everything on now :lol:

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