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Round 7; >=(
Topic Started: Jul 19 2010, 03:57 PM (92 Views)
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I think the topic description speaks for itself, doesn't it? That, or I've been talking to Cards too much on AIM lately and he's rubbing off on me. :P

You guys must have had a field day laughing at us, not being able to win that goddamned challenge even with all our "planning." The only way last round could've been worse was if I was put up and left. But, last night was pretty up there. I don't even know HOW we managed to let Ragan win. Monet and I even talked about the challenge the night before, and she was the one who suggested that if we piled onto Ragan, there was no way in hell he could've won. Well, Kristen and I apparently did that, but Annie/Monet decided to not give him any? Whoa, talk about mis-communication there. Either we should've piled it onto him, or not given him any at all..... though I think piling makes more sense since Ragan could've still won if his allies gave him any. I do love how half of us did one strategy, while the other two employed the other strategy. We deserved to lose that round, if just for that -_- Andrew, Matt, or Rachel winning would've sucked too, so I guess Ragan winning and not putting me up at all, I should just be happy.

Anyway, leading up to the round, I guess Kristen, Monet and I talked to Annie enough to secure her with us in taking down the boys (+Rachel). A continuation of the last PM I posted between Annie and I:

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I told Kristen yesterday that I was probably going to put you & Ragan up but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that revenge isn't going to get me anywhere in the game so I needed to start thinking with my head. I really do think that Matt & Ragan have been in the best position in the game for quite some time and I've been thinking that both of them, more than anybody else, have been trying to play me. I first began to notice it when Matt won POV and then it heightened when Ragan asked me if I "really wanted to backdoor Monet", which Kathy had told me. It all started to click that the two of them weren't going to be happy unless Monet was out of the house. Ragan was basically trying to recruit me, hoping that I was down with backdooring Monet but that wasn't the case. When I said no, I didn't realize it at the time, but I had basically been saying no to a deal with him.

It really seems to be shaping up as boys vs. girls now and honestly, I no longer have any desire to nominate you. The guys have been laying back, letting the girls do the dirty work so that they can skate by and I really hate that. Andrew's like their grunt man I guess, he doesn't realize how many deals those two guys have had in this game. I really wouldn't be surprised if Matt & Ragan were aligned with EVERYBODY. It's funny because Kristen & I were really the only ones loyal to that alliance and now we're the ones probably paying for it :rolleyes:

After last round I don't care who put up who anymore, I care about being SAFE and finding out who really is after me and I don't think it's you anymore. The guys' shadiness was right in front of me this entire time and I kept scratching the surface but never had the light go off in my head saying I needed to get them out. Now I feel so stupid and lucky for Monet's coup. If we work together, we have some of the strongest people in the house challenge-wise and strategically. I'm 100% willing to work with you to take those boys out. They're trouble and they've fucked with me for the last time.
Matt/Ragan have been aligned with everybody, or nearly everybody in the game. And I doubt they were just bullshit "watch your back" deals, like the ones I had with some people. They've been playing everybody, and honestly they've been doing a damn good job. Apparently their deal with me was "real"... so real that they didn't bother to tell me about a big alliance I should've been looking out for. If they wanted it to implode so they could go with me and Andrew, they could've said something before hand. Ragan was trying to tell me he wanted you/Monet out so that the alliance would be over and he could go with his true deal with Matt and I (and Andrew too I guess, but that was never official, at least I never had anything with Andrew....the other boys definitely do though). Somehow, I find it extremely hard to think he's doing anything other than try to paint himself in a better light. Figures that the people I choose to align with are with everybody else at the same time -_-

I don't know what those guys plan on doing. They've been asking me about what my plans are, and I've been... shying away from game talk with them. It's kind of awkward. Andrew/Ragan/Matt are definitely going to put two of us up though. I have no idea what combination, but if they're going by who would threaten them the most, it'd likely be Monet and you. Or something. I could see Matt or Rachel nominating me. But yeah, it's looking like guys vs girls... and Rachel's, um, on the guys' side? I really don't know, actually. She's really hard to read. And now she has some sort of power given to her from the sabotuer. I'm a bit freaked tbh :ph43r:

I'm definitely not after you, at all. Last round was basically I had nothing with you, so it made sense for me to put you up at the time. I'm 100% down with working with you as well.... Kristen/Monet have apparently been using their free time wisely and are planning comp strategies for the four of us :lol: :lol:


Well get this, Ragan was set up in this sub-alliance that included me & Andrew too. So I always expected that Ragan doubley had my back and would tell me everything he heard, since we were practically wrapped around each other in two alliances, but he was always SO vague and quiet and I heard a lot of his opinions through Kristen. So it was blatantly clear that he either didn't trust me or just plain wanted me out. Ugh, you know I just hate players like him. If you're going to form a million alliances, be LOYAL to them and don't fuck around. That is such cheap gameplay.

Rachel is starting to scare me but I like her a lot more than I'm liking the guys now. She is a total flake who isn't taking things seriously but it's almost like a brilliant strategy that's working for her. I said since the beginning that she was going to surprise us all later on and I think that's what she's doing. If she doesn't choose a side soon then I think she'll start to get even more dangerous.

I just got the long PM about competition strategies :lol: Did you get it?


So Annie was onboard with everything, though in the back of my mind I was a bit wary that she was still close with Andrew... but it didn't matter at the time since Ragan/Matt could be targeted by her instead so even if she was close with Andrew, she wouldn't have to put him up. Monet and I ran through some challenge scenarios and strategies, which I'm not going to repost here. But lol we have no life <3 The fact that Monet took the time to try and prepare for shit and still left? It fucking blows and voting her out sucked. I didn't think I'd actually feel that way since I couldn't have cared less if she went just a round or two before. Funny how things change around here.

Rachel and I talked about not putting each other up, and now I'm pretty sure her target would've been Kristen if she won HOH last night... so I'm glad that she didn't win, even though I guess I might've been safe with her too.

My talk with the boys... awkward as all hell. Andrew and I went back to the how do you do stage after we kind of talked shit out about me not backdooring Monet like he thought I would. I think he would've put me up if he won, though I'm not sure. Kristen forwarded me these PMs between Andrew and her though, where he actually looked like he'd be down with targeting Ragan:

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I wish that he would make more funny comments so I would have more to base my game off of. :(

In regards to the alliance, everyone threw you under the bus and said that you were the creator, Ragan especially. The thing with Ragan is, I think that he thinks the because I assisted him with the backdoor plan, I am aligned with him? That was a different round, things change all the time and he doesn't seem to realize that. He just suicided his game by blowing the cover on the alliance and I think that it will either help him out tremendously or kill him tonight.

For the sum, I have never had an issue with you and I just assumed that others did not want me in the alliance and you have done more than everything you could to help me by telling me people wanted me out and defending me to them and I will not forget that.


Aww thanks Andrew. <3 Ragan and Matt I suppose were the main people who threw me under a bus that round right? I mean the others (Brit and Kathy) I can understand somewhat since I wasn't actual;y aligned with them.
Ragan's been telling Brit how his real alliance was you and Matt. Jsyk.
And mu ch <3! This is so very rabbinical, having a nice talk!

I am fully aware of what Ragan has been saying and his lies really need to stop, it is annoying to get a new PM from someone else every morning asking if I have an alliance with Ragan. :rolleyes: Sorry that I worked with you once, I won't happen again.



:lol: Well he seems to be lying about everyone, so you're not alone. He says that I formed the alliance, that his real alliance was with you and Matt, that me/Anne/Monet are an unbreakable "side," etc. Maybe it'd be better for everyone involved if he was flat out targeted by the entire house tonight.

Well it certainly seems that way from the PMs that everyone has exchanged this afternoon. He is a balagan and is almost worse than Kathy.


Kristen and I talked about it and she seemed to believe him. I wasn't so sure, and asked her if she thought Andrew would use the veto on Ragan if he won. Kristen said he probably wouldn't because Ragan was like public enemy #1, what with even Matt distancing himself from him. I think after last round, it's safe to say that Andrew (and Matt) were just covering their own asses in case one of the girls won HOH.

With Matt, I put him up as a pawn against Annie so if he had won last night, he could've put me up and it would've been completely justified. Prior to the round, our PMs were weird.. and basically me shying away from committing to anything. I'm wondering if this not playing both sides deal is going to be the reason my game ends. I hope not =/ Anyway, my PMs with him a bit before the round started:

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You didn't piss me off haha, I wasn't even telling you to backdoor her, was I? I said do what you think is best and you did. I didn't even want her gone :lol: I wanted Kathy gone the whole time haha. I just thought we were somewhat close (actually pretty close) and then after last round you thought I wouldn't want to be with you anymore so you like gave up on me or something? I could be totally off on this but I thought I should at least say it! And yeah, that alliance was going after eachother, so yeah, it sucks haha.

AND YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON TO TELL ME SHE WON! THAT IS SO GREAT! I am so glad she is safe. Omg yes, that is awesome. Do you have any idea what the comp was?


You were more telling me to do what I thought was best, the other guys were the ones who were really pushing for it. Funny how it worked out so that Kathy left anyway. I thought we were pretty close too, but actually hearing about an actual big alliance, one I suspected from the start but decided to ignore my gut feeling on, made me just want to rethink my position in this game, that's all. I mean, if you guys didn't implode, it was just me, Rachel, and Andrew on the outs. It was a wake up call. Not as big of a shocker as probably the one I gave you when I pawn nom'ed you though, I'm sure :ph43r:

Apparently it was like the flower comp that Keesha won in BB10, ring a bell? And LOL, Brenchel are going crazy. I've heard the feeds have actually been fucking GOOD since Brit won POV, so that's amazing. :D


I thought you should have done what you thought was best, I wasn't just saying that. I mean you obviously made the right move becuase if you had put up Monet she would have been pissed and got to use that Coup. But yeah, I get how that alliance was a bombshell but honestly, it was kinda obvious it wasn't working so although there were people that were together within the alliance, as a unit, I don't think it was working. I had my deals with like you and stuff that I thought overrode it. But yeah, I was so shocked to get nommed :lol: But yeah, I guess the communication was a little off between us, but I still thought we were close :lol:

And the feeds should be good now that Brit can be a bitch again to everyone with no consequences. I'm so glad Brendon didn't get his way :lol:


Maybe I had superpowers and realized she had the coup! No, lol, her closest allies didn't seem to know, so I think I just lucked into making the right move for myself. True.. if it was working out, I doubt Ragan would've explained about it to everyone. I guess this was one of those cases where side deals actually (hopefully) meant more than a big first day alliance. I definitely thought we were close as well... and Ragan's the one getting all the backlash from people about his deals. I think quite a few people are out to get him tonight :ph43r: Should be an intense round.

Brendon getting his way would've meant this season was an epic fail. Now, if only Brendon would leave so that the DR can mind warp Rachel into doing shit to keep Bronet in the game ^_^


Ragan is taking a lot of the heat, I have noticed this. I'm paired with him in a lot of people's minds so yeah, I think we will be nommed by a couple people if they win. This will be an intense round.

Haha. I wish Bronet could stay, but I'm guessing Monet won't :( I love to see underdogs stay and like the whole house is against them. It would be awesome if they stayed!


Yeah I think that would be the case, since I think it's assumed you'd pull him off if you won POV. Either way, intense round for sure. Most nervous I've been all game, and probably the same for you :lol:

I'm guessing she won't either. Who would Brit have to bitch with then? It makes me sad just thinking about it. During the premiere episode, I thought those two would be like bitter enemies :lol:


Well everyone likes making those assumption so it's useless to even fight it. So stupid though. Either way, you're right, this round is nerve wracking for sure :lol:

And yeah, I didn't think Monet and Britney would like each other at all, but they were bffs. And everyone hates them for some reason. I don't think Monet has much of a shot unless the Brigade is found out.


His first PM to me in that chain, about me giving up on him or something... OMG, I was like... so, how do I respond? :ph43r: And everybody else could be "assuming" that Matt/Ragan aren't close... all I gotta say is that Matt chose Ragan as the third to our alliance when we made it, so it's not just an "assumption" -_-

As for Ragan, my PMs with him (continuation of what I last posted):

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Britney...  :angry:

When we talked about the voting bloc, it was always me/you/Matt/Andrew. I never wanted Rachel to be the vag in the alliance, it was you. When the alliance was me/you/Matt (which was a side deal I guess), that was where my true loyalty stood. I've always thought that if anything, we were the core of that alliance and Matt was with us. Rachel is great, but she isn't aligned with us.

What's your plan from here on out? I want to work with you, but I don't know if you want to work with me.


Sorry, earlier I was checking in from my phone and couldn't reply to anything. Just got home now.

Yeah, perhaps it was my own paranoia that made me group her with you guys, but she was always in the loop (I think) so I felt she must've been good with you guys somehow. I had a feeling always that what I had with you and Matt was just a side alliance to cover your guys' bases... and I think if I had known about the Big 5 alliance or whatever from the start, I would fully trust you guys (or at least before things went to hell last night).

I think lines were somewhat drawn last night though, when I didn't backdoor Monet. Andrew's not pleased about it... and I've got Annie to deal with too. My answer is really I don't know. I know that's wishy washy, but I don't know what's best for my game right now. Whether we continue to work together or not though, I think we both have more pressing matters to deal with than nominating each other. That's just where I stand right now.


It wasn't an alliance to cover my bases, at least in my eyes. I wouldn't want to be aligned with a shit ton of people in a Big Brother game - it never works out well for me (obviously). I wanted an alliance with you because I liked you, so when you brought in Matt I was just like whatever.

So you basically don't want to go after each other? I mean, that's fine with me, if that's what you want. Don't feel like you have to commit to me or anything, because I don't want you to be forced to align with me. I don't even want you to feel that way, really.


It wasn't in mine either. And true, having too many alliances is guaranteed to fail at some point... because you get caught eventually and things just get ugly. I just realized that all I had in this game was the alliance I had with you/Matt as well as Kathy, and just a lot of "well, I've got your back if you've got mine" bullshit from the beginning. Networking fail :popcorn

Yeah, that's basically what I'm saying. And now, apparently Rachel has some new power given to her by the saboteur? As if this game wasn't complicated enough already :ph43r:


I'd much rather be in your position of under-networking than my position of over-networking :lol: . I feel like such a moving target right now, you have no idea.

What are you up to? :rwub :owub :ywub :gwub :bwub :pwub


Well I guess that's the thing, it's hard to have the right balance of having enough deals to keep yourself safe, but not too many that people find out. I always either overplay or underplay, and this game it was definitely the latter :lol:

I just got home from work, gotta head out again soon. And then will probably be back just a bit before the challenge. I hate Sundays -_- How bout you?


I'm sitting down for BB in a second here. I'm hoping to take that time and *relieve* myself from the upcoming HoH/round stress. I've got a feeling tonight is going to be hella intense.


I think it will be too, I want to be here for the last couple hours before the round starts, but as usual RL rears its ugly head <_< I just hope I get back in time for the round :ph43r:


Oh no! I hope you'll be here, Britney. Missing tonight would be terrifying for anyone in the game.


It would be. I made it back though, thank god. Everybody's here tonight, I don't think anybody could AFFORD to miss this round. :popcorn


Yeah, this round could go any way. There are some people who I've got a pretty good grasp on in the game, then there are others (like you :rwub :owub :ywub :gwub :bwub :pwub ) who if they win HoH, I have no idea what they would possibly do.


lulz at his last message to me. But yeah, as you can probably see from the messages shortening bit by bit each reply, I'm pretty much done with Ragan. Despite what I told him about us both having bigger fish to fry, I was thinking of putting him up next to Matt if I won. When I sent that message to Ragan, I wanted Andrew/Matt up, but seeing Andrew's PMs with Kristen might've weighed in a bit. Now, knowing Andrew probably wasn't sincere, different story once again.

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Oops, accidentally hit post instead of preview -_-

But anyway, where was I? I guess that covers where I stood with everybody prior to last round's start. I wanted badly to see one of us girls win HOH, but of course Ragan won and nominated Monet and Annie. I'm happy he left Kristen and I off the block initially, at least.

I think how people picked veto players was pretty telling, last night. Ragan picking Andrew... possibly knowing that if Andrew won, he'd do what Ragan wanted. Annie/Monet picking Kristen and I. Again, perhaps red flags should be coming up. Or they already are up :ph43r:

So.. Andrew won, and I start getting PMs from him/Ragan asking who I would evict between Monet/Annie, and if I would evict Monet over Kristen.

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I didn't think of that! :( Congrats on that veto win, I wasn't even close... it took me a couple minutes just to find that goddamn original pic since it didn't immediately show up on google images <_<

Yeah I tried to remember it from memory and just work off of that. Phew. Idk what I am doing!


:lol: G'luck on your decision, I can't imagine it's an easy one. You take one of them off, I imagine Kristen or I go up. Not sure who.

And you'd have a pretty fucking good memory to be able to do that. That's the first time I've seen that particular pic!

Thanks! It was certainly nervewracking, every time I previewed someone else had posted and I wanted to die.

Do you think you'd evict Mone't if she was up against Kristen?


:lol: They were trying to psyche you out. And yes, I would.

Awesome! That is what I was hoping for. I don't want Kristen to leave, but I guess Ragan wants to secure Mone't exit.


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Andrew is talking to me about using the veto right now. If the nominations stay the same, how are you going to vote?


If noms stay the same, I'd imagine you'd rather me vote for Monet. :unsure:


I need for you to vote out Monet, please. Please see this is my olive branch to you Britney, because if I put you up, I think you'd be going home.


Okay, I'll do it. And thanks if you don't put me up


Alright, I did it: you're safe :rwub :owub :ywub :gwub :bwub :pwub

Now, if you don't mind, please maintain your side of the deal, hun.


I will. Thanks Ragan! Yeah I could definitely see myself going if I went up tonight.


Right, and I didn't want you to leave. Like, we might not be in an alliance with a bunch of other people, but I still want you in the game.


Ugh SO much. So Kristen went up in Annie's place when Andrew used the POV. I honest to god don't think it would've mattered who Monet was up against. I think Monet would've been toast, even though I would've kept Monet over Annie. With Kristen up, I guess it was more foolproof that Monet would go, which was what Ragan wanted. I felt terrible during the voting period because Monet's point that she was stronger in challenges and more likely to be helpful taking the boys down than Kristen (I CANNOT tell if she's throwing shit.... I actually think she MIGHT be), was extremely logical. Perhaps it was a mistake on my part? But no, I'm much closer to Kristen than anybody in the house and I wasn't about to just screw her over. It really wasn't a question to me. At least I used the fact that Ragan/Andrew basically made me promise to vote Monet so that I wouldn't go up as the reason I voted Monet out over Kristen. Like hell I'd actually care THAT much about following through once I wasn't put on the block :popcorn

After the round, Matt and I have just basically gone back to mindless talk... I noticed that if Kristen goes next, the banner would be perfectly symmetrical. So, Matt and I for the F2 please! Symmetry alliance ^_^

Ragan and I are having a weird conversation right now:

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I think it's crazy that you always come through for me in clutch situations. Brendon, Rachel and now Monet's eviction... you're seriously one of the most reliable hot messes that I have ever met <3


I'll take that as a... compliment? :lol: I guess we do compliment each other well then ;)


Yeah, it was a compliment.

Let me ask you this, and I want you to tell me if it's a fair idea of how you're playing the game: you want to get the people you're closer with to the end, not an alliance. Is that true? It's wierd, because I don't consider you a floater even though that may be the definition of one? Idk idk


I think I am, if that's the definition of a floater :lol: I guess? I really dunno. I think I've been keeping people guessing for most of this game, I don't think anybody knows more about me than what I'd do for the round immediately following. And even then... I guess I'm not an easy book to read, am I? I think this whole game though has been more about getting people you're closer with to the end rather than an alliance. Or else, you could've just stuck it out with that original group of 5... you guys had half the challenge whores in the game. It was entirely plausible.


I think I've got like a social disorder or something, because the minute that alliance was made, I was so completely against it. Like, you don't know how badly I wanted to break free. The issue with it was that it wasn't formed at all - we were TOLD we were in an alliance. Shit like that never works out for the best.

If I ask you another question, would you mind being honest with me? You can ask me whatever you want, too. This might be awkward of me to ask, but am I the lead target of Annie and Kristen? Tonight's HoH probably should've been a red flag to me, but Ihonestly think it would be a bad move to target me.


Umm, you guys were told? WTF? :lol: I hate alliances that are formed without my consent. -_- But I've been in your shoes before, been a part of an alliance I didn't want to be in... you're right, it never works out.

You were the lead target of Monet's, the other two? Not so sure. I think Annie was hurt over not being veto'd by Andrew, but he did it tonight so they may patch things up for all I know. I gotta say that if they were to target somebody, it'd make most sense to go for Andrew over you.. And tonight's HOH was a completely disorganized mess. I love how many Monet got :lol:


My understanding of how it formed was that Monet wanted an alliance with Kristen, and Kristen PM'd the rest of us that we were in an alliance together, yay! :rwub :owub :ywub :gwub :bwub :pwub

That's what I'm saying - I fucked up and exposed how awful in challenges when I accidentally hit reply rather than preview :lol: . I know that Kristen and Annie probably feel more burned by me, but it just doesn't make sense to target someone who won't win anything unless it lands in their lap (thank God people hate me enough to give me margaritas <3 ). I don't think you're a target tonight, either, which is good.


OMG :lol: An alliance made to last <3 In that case, Kristen would've likely voted for Monet to stay last night if I was up... no wonder I would've been toast if that were the case.

So that's what happened, I was wondering why you posted that :P I'm simply no good at image puzzles, I was only halfway done when Andrew posted and I was like WTF? It took me a minute or two to find the original picture too. Yeah, I don't think it necessarily makes sense either but if you have emotional players more than logical... it's hard to predict what people will do. And thanks, I can only hope. I'm pretty sure I'm less threatening than some other people left :lol:


Wait, you didn't realize how close Monet and Kristen were? :o I thought that everyone knew they were BFFs. I didn't put you up because I knew Kristen would've voted you out, and I really didn't/don't want you to leave. Plus, Monet had to go once Andrew used the veto.

I think that Kristen is a bigger emotional player, while Annie is the more rational of the two. Which, I guess that is a good thing, considering that Annie has the most competition wins out of anyone left (?).


So umm... am I a floater or not? :popcorn Or is it not clear that I HAVE picked a side and it was with Kristen/Monet/Annie? I don't even know what he was trying to get out of that conversation. I'm generally a very easy person to read in games :unsure: How horrible of me to think my conversations with Ragan must have some sort of ulterior motive on his part :ph43r:

It's interesting though that he's pushing the formation of the Big 5 alliance squarely onto Kristen's shoulders. Yet Kristen spilled it to me? Something doesn't add up, at all. I guess bottom line is that as much as I want to and DO trust Kristen, I have to maintain a bit of skepticism, always. This is so similar to FWA1 Gaga, it's kind of scary. I decide not to play all sides, and just more or less stick to one. My best ally probably will end up having been closer to somebody other than me, like Ash had IT. I'll find out, get pissed, then still end up with her at the end. Well, if I make it there :P It would be hilarious if the game ends that way, I take Kristen to the end and lose by a vote. :lol:

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about how that ended up :( To be completely honest, I did it half to keep my word to Ragan/Andrew. The stipulation for me NOT going up (and most likely leaving, I think) was that I had to agree to evict Monet over Kristen. And when it came down to it, everybody who was on the block tonight were people I was aligned with, so as soon as Ragan won that fucking HOH comp, one of us was already surely screwed.

Apparently Kristen and I piled 8 each on him... with the hopes you guys would do the same.  :ph43r: That was such a fail in so many ways.


I'm so stupid, it's pretty much all my fault :( I don't know what was thinking. I just figured since there were 3 guys it was safer to not give them any. Oh my god :(:(

I set up a Monet tribute for us in the board, please post something for her <3 Don't worry, I totally understand the vote. Kristen leaving would have been JUST as bad. It's by far the hardest vote I've ever had to make. I'm just glad that I made it out of the chopping block thanks to Andrew. Oh my god.


Well, no it isn't. If Kristen and I didn't give him any, then he would've had none. Guess Kristen and I were on the same page, and you and Monet were on the same page. WTF? :lol: Deal was that I had talked to Monet last night about that challenge, and how it'd make sense to pile it onto the person we don't want to see win. I don't know why she didn't follow through since that's what I was basing it on.. and she suggested it :(

Do you think Andrew did it out of loyalty to you, or to get Monet out? I can't figure out which it is. And I posted :( Hopefully the three of us make it through next round intact. We MAY have Rachel more on our side next round, since the boys have been hardcore lying to her... and I think this round made it obvious as fuck that they're close.


I was so close to just piling it on but I didn't really want ANY of the boys winning so it made me nervous. With 3 of them in contention it made more sense in my mind that we should just ignore them, but I didn't consider the fact that Ragan was the only TRULY horrible outcome of the 3 <_<

Oh I know Andrew did it to get Monet out :lol: I was BEGGING him, pleading, and the only message he replied to of mine was "I will leave against Monet". He literally said to me, straight up, "I know, which is why I am using the veto on you." And I was like... oh, okay. I'm still grateful though. Thank youuuu Andrew.


No... well I heard prior to the challenge that Andrew was "thinking" of putting up Ragan, but now I see that it was likely just a tactic he was using to keep himself off the block in case one of us won HOH. Kinda like how Matt was distancing himself away from Ragan as well. So really... Ragan was the WORST outcome, but I think Andrew/Matt would've resulted in nearly the same thing.

What, you're kidding me right? Doesn't he want to like... get back into your good books? :lol: Those boys do make me chuckle the most during rounds. Like Matt... during the round you guys were talking about backdooring Kathy, he asked me in a PM if I would evict Kathy over... well Lane, I think? And then when he ran out of time to use the POV, he answered my PM and was like "lol no, sorry, that was a typo" ^_^


:lol: :lol: That's hilarious. I kind of took Matt for being a better bullshitter than that. But now I guess Andrew thinks that I "owe" him for getting vetoed but the truth is, that was him owing me from when he didn't veto me during your HOH reign <_< How have the boys been treating you since last night? They're actually down in numbers now for this upcoming HOH so I'm waiting to hear about all the ways they're buttering us up individually.


^^ I think she's solidly for taking out one of the boys, hopefully I'm not wrong. The way she's talking, seems like she's still not that impressed with Andrew, but who knows if that's really the case. If Andrew ACTUALLY said that to her, about taking her off because she'd leave over Monet, I'd lawl. It could be taken positively in the sense of "oh I don't want you to leave!" which is probably what Andrew was aiming for, or it could be taken as "yeah I know, I want Monet out, so I guess I'll have to use the veto on you" :popcorn

With Andrew, I haven't had a chance to really speak to him today... but we never really talk game unless it's during the round, so I don't expect today to be any different. I could push, but that's generally not very helpful anyway. If he trusted me, he'd talk to me. He doesn't, so no amount of pushing is going to help.

My latest PMs with Kristen:

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Hey Brit you hear anything more about this round? Ideally Ragan would be sent packing, but how has Rachel been to the idea? Last night she just only seemed to realize that a-dur! the guys have been in an alliance for awhile. <3


Not too much, Rachel seems onboard with splitting up the boys though. I don't know which guy she'd target, but as long as she wants to get one of them out, I could care less. I'd forward you the PMs but she likes to delete the quote nest :lol: I think Rachel just waited till now to pull a move, there's no way she JUST realized that. I reckon part of her shtick.

If one of us wins, I know this may sound weird... but I think Andrew HAS to go up as an original nom, if we don't want to risk having to put one of us up as a pawn. If he won veto, he'd pull himself off... and he's likely to win it <_< Matt's still trying to play both sides a bit, if he wins veto, he could be swayed to leave noms the same. I dunno, what do you think?

Oh and I just realized I can't win a possible boggle comp on this comp. Ugh. Scratch what I said last night about being able to beat Andrew :(


I agree, I think Andrew needs to go up as a pawn, so he can't play veto for anyone. If he does he's likely to pull one of the noms off, and that will really leave us with limited options. So Andrew and Ragan go up, ideally, and veto isn't used, or Andrew wins veto, pulls himself off, Matt goes up, and Ragan goes home.
Rachel sent me a PM very vaguely hinting that she wanted to work together and send the boys packing today. Its a little late to start playing the game, but hey, if she's onboard with that, I'm not gonna argue. B)


Exactly, I think we need to mention it to Annie as well, because I think she'd be the one most reluctant out of the three of us to throw him up. It's a precaution I think we should definitely take. If Rachel's with us to break them up, and she says she'd be down for it to me, I don't want to have her end up being a replacement nom or something.

Basically, my thoughts as well. I think she's definitely pissed at the boys for lying to her so much... I think we've got this girls vs boys tonight, truly :P


Ok I sent a PM to Annie detailing how we're gonna put up Andrew as the dummy nominee for Ragan. This plan should be good, unless Matt or Andrew win HoH. <_<
I sort of wonder if Andrew would throw HoH tonight. He'd either piss off the girls or the boys, and at this point he claims he loves us all equally. That's my hope anyway. :unsure:
Matt also at this point can't win HoH. He has deals with everyone left, if he wins he'll be so fucked.


and she forwarded me this last night, after the vote... a very short PM between her and Rachel, and then us discussing pulling her in:

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They didn't tell you they were in an alliance? Ragan made it pretty clear to me that they were. :unsure:


No, they didn't. This whole weekend they've been lying to my face about it, pretty much. Most of them had me convinced that I should put you up if I won because of an alliance but the whole time it was THEM who were together.



I just sent her a long-ish PM, let's see what she says. If she takes any of what I said back to them, it'll be bad, but I'm prepared for it. Either we grab her now, or she's never going to be on our side.


I know. But i there's any positive, I now no longer really have to be polite with Ragan. He says that he put me up to make sure Monet left, but still. I just can't stand him at this point. :rolleyes:


Well Matt and I were polite to each other after I put him up as a pawn. But I don't think Ragan had any real idea how close we are. He was taking a big gamble, that I would save you over Monet when he doesn't really know our dynamics. I told him I would, since he basically said that I was going up if I didn't agree, and that I would likely leave in that situation <_<

I hope we can get her on our side, honestly. Here's hoping. :unsure:


Oh I'm being polite with him. <_< But seriously, Monet messed this up for us. She wasted the coup on KATHY, and was helpless tonight. If she had used the coup tonight everything would be so much better. :(
I don't think Ragan even thinks we're very close. I think he had this idea I was super-close to Monet and no one else. Little does he know ... hehehe.
Does he still trust you, or is he kinda mad at you still? He's gloating to me about how relieved he is, obviously.


Ugh, I had just forgotten about that but yeah, seriously. If she had just saved it for this round... but still, if she hadn't used it, Annie would've left and we'd still be a 3 person alliance anyway. The only difference is that we would've still had Kathy, who was basically somebody who would vote how we wanted. Oh speaking of which, she wished us luck the night she left. She said you weren't replying or something so she told me to tell you. I forgot :P

I'm glad he doesn't know. Let's keep it that way. Ugh, he's gloating? </3 He was talking to me about how I'm playing the game. Apparently I'm a floater or something. :iiam


He told you that you were a floater? Haha, he's so wrong. :P He really is a bit out of the loop about a lot of things. Like for instance, I dont think he even has any idea how disliked he is by most of the house now. Like even Andrew and Matt seem to view him as a liability. I kind of think next round getting rid of him shouldn't be too hard.


So I think Kristen and I are on the same page that Andrew MUST go up tonight. I'm not entirely sure I'd put up Ragan over Matt though, but we'll see. Ugh, now I gotta dig up some recent PMs with Rachel.... and she deletes quote nests! lol, oh boy. I've been spilling some shit to her in a bid to get her to side with us and help us take out the boys. I'm hoping it will work, it SEEMS to be working.

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What are you thinking for this one, girl?


I don't know, this is so hard :( On one side, I think the men are very closely aligned and lying to me. On the other, I told Ragan I'd help him if he kept me safe. What are you thinking? The guys are definitely pushing to get rid of Monet because I think they're all tight... but I don't know what to do. I think maybe we're the swings?


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We are. I think I'm just going to do Monet tonight. The men ARE very closely aligned... more on that after the vote. Ugh, I hate this. I'm doing Monet I think  :ph43r:


Okay. I don't know where to go from here, though.


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Girl, I think it's pretty obvious from tonight that Ragan, Matt, and Andrew are all tightly aligned. Andrew used the veto specifically so that Kristen (or I) would go up, and Monet would go out. Ragan extended an olive branch of sorts to me by not putting me up tonight, the stipulation was that I had to agree to vote out Monet. Well, what else could I do? I knew Kristen would have the votes to stay, but I wasn't so sure that if I was up there, I would stay, y'know? So I agreed. And then felt like shit because they basically strongarmed me into it.

And in the end, I didn't go back on my word with them. I liked both Kristen and Monet, so I voted how they wanted because I didn't feel like breaking my word was a good idea. But trust me when I say that I've basically cut my allegiance to them. At the end of last round, Ragan tried to convince me that he wanted to turn on Monet/Annie, because he wanted to go with Matt, Andrew and I. Made it seem like he wanted to throw away the Big 5 alliance FOR ME. In one PM, he even went as far as to say  he and Matt were throwing their games out the window for me.

In my head, all I was thinking was that if his allegiance was TRULY with me, he could've told me about the big alliance at any time. He chose to do so when his back was starting to be against the wall. Those boys have had alliances with every single freaking player in this game. And honest to god, I don't know how I'm supposed to be able to trust 'em. I dunno what they've been spewing to you, but I can almost guarantee that they're lies to get you on their side. I know you're not one for alliances, but I have a feeling they've been lying to you the same way they've been lying to me.


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I felt the same way. The reason I voted Kristen out was because of Matt. Monet came to me and told me that Matt had agreed to vote to keep her. I knew he hadn't, but I felt awful that she thought she was staying when she obviously wasn't. I'm just tired of this game. I feel like I've been lied to all weekend.

That doesn't make sense to me that Ragan would tell you that because the men have basically been promising me the same thing, they've been acting like I'm in with them and they've been protecting me and all this stuff.

I don't trust them either, for different reasons now. I feel lied to by Andrew, who has been trying to pretend this whole time that we were on the "outside" together and all this stuff, when clearly he's not at all. And Matt - I think he lied to Monet on her way out and I don't like that. Ragan's just been playing very hard and I don't know what to believe.

I don't like alliances, but I don't want to be made into a fool and I don't like being played. What can we do about it?


Wait, what? So Matt was playing Monet up till she left? I basically went up to Monet and told her straight up that I voted for her. It sucked, but I didn't feel it was necessary to string her along as she left. You feel like you've been lied to all weekend? I've basically stopped talking strategy with any of the boys. I know they're all just trying to lead me on, and I'd be a fool to keep falling for it.

Oh I could show you the PMs but I dunno if you want me to. I'll show you if you want. But basically Ragan definitely tried to do that with me as well, and I even SAID that I felt you were close with them too, but he told me I was the vag he wanted in that alliance. I was like.. oh okay. They protected you on that vote against Lane, there is NO denying that. Ragan approached me and wanted to pull a power move to save you. I had already been talking to people like Monet and Andrew about not wanting to see you leave over Lane. So I was like, sure. But then the vote ended up being unanimous, and Ragan wasn't all that pleased. He wanted to use a split vote to show you that we were loyal to you and protecting you, while having you target the side of the house that voted for you. It didn't work out because I talked to people like Kathy and told them what was up, and they ended up voting for you to stay. Trust me when I say, everything those boys do, they do with a motive in mind.

Well... I don't remember if I was saying I was on the outs or not. I sort of was..? In the sense that I wasn't in that big alliance, and most of what I had were watch your back deals. My ALLIANCE was supposed to be Matt/Ragan, but they ended up being aligned with the whole house anyway. Ragan/Matt/Andrew are all close. They've been playing everybody, and it's catching up to them, I think.

We could work together to split them up, if you wanted. Kristen and Annie both feel duped by them as well, and are just as unamused as I think we are.



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That's what Monet told me. She told me that she had Annie's vote and Matt's vote for sure, and both were saying they'd vote for her. I knew Matt was lying but I voted to keep her anyway because I felt awful that she was going out that way.
It would have been good to have her around, especially because she was strong in competitions and she could have gone at it with the boys.

Thanks, but I don't need to see them. I believe you. And I know they did, but I'm not willing to be strung along by people pretending to be my friends. If someone is targeting me, I'd prefer they just don't talk to me at all. Well if Annie and Kristen are on-board with trying to split them up, then I am, too. We have to make sure a girl gets HoH this time around, or it'll be bad for us. At least right now we have one more than them. I'm ready to play hard, I'm tired of all the fakeness. And I have something I need to do before I leave this game, for Brendon.


Matt's vote for sure. Ugh, Monet, WHY? :( She knew none of the boys could be trusted, even if Matt was careful enough not to push HARD for me to backdoor Monet... he left the dirty work for Andrew/Ragan, and that's why he comes out of nearly every fucking situation smelling like a rose. Ragan starts looking like he's in trouble, he immediately distances himself from his closest ally. I'm sorry, this is all bullshit. Ragan gets the heat for EVERYTHING because Ragan does all of Matt's dirty work. I can't be the only one who sees that, right? <_<

I know, I know it would've been good to have Monet around... Kristen's definitely not as big of an asset in challenges. Last night just sucked. And tonight's going to suck if Andrew wins HOH, or Matt.

tbh, I don't see anybody targeting you tonight. I might be the only one, but I've all but spelled out to the boys that I'm not going with them. Perhaps stupid gameplay, perhaps not. I don't know. I just know they're trying to string everybody along and they've been successful for far too long for my liking. And yeah, I'm pretty sure Ragan will go up if Annie/Kristen win HOH, it's just a question of whether he goes up with Andrew or with Matt. And I hope you accomplish what you want to do... as long as that's not voting me out tonight :P :P


I think I got everything. I've learned to save a copy of anything I send to Rachel because she tends to delete my reply when she answers. What I found most interesting when I talked to her, was that Matt was telling Monet he'd vote for her to stay. I'm starting to try and plant seeds with people that Matt needs to go though. No, not in an effort to save Ragan, but I genuinely think that Matt is a much bigger threat than Ragan. He needs to GTFO. ^_^

Also, of course the guys were working on Rachel the same way they tried to work me. I'm just glad that hopefully Rachel truly does feel the way she says she does in PMs with me, and will go after the boys now. I'm curious as to what the "thing" she needs to do for Brendon is though :ph43r:

I think that covers shit for this round? :popcorn
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HOLY SHIT THAT WAS EPIC! I am sorry it took me so long to get a chance to read all of it, I actually took it in shifts just now. cus I had to! ^_^

I love the F2 symmetry alliance line! So much for that eh? :lol:

Thanks much for the hot awesome updates, I tell you right now, others here have some killer updates, but yours are the most complete in explaining everything going on. Love it so much. <3

I saw you'd be late for the round tonight, but you ain't playin' HoH, so you'll be fine.

Good luck so much tonight. <3
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Congrats again on winning veto tonight. <3 You killed it, and saved your ass. I was for the challenge whorage to start! :wub ^_^

What are your thoughts on Annie putting you up? Are you putting it behind you, or just what's the plan going into next round?

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HOLY SHIT THAT WAS EPIC! I am sorry it took me so long to get a chance to read all of it, I actually took it in shifts just now. cus I had to! ^_^

I love the F2 symmetry alliance line! So much for that eh? :lol:

Thanks much for the hot awesome updates, I tell you right now, others here have some killer updates, but yours are the most complete in explaining everything going on. Love it so much. <3

I saw you'd be late for the round tonight, but you ain't playin' HoH, so you'll be fine.

Good luck so much tonight. <3

LOL, reading it in shifts <3 Yeah so much for the symmetry alliance, if it was actually real, I might actually have been crying deep down inside... very very deep down ^_^

And thanks! I don't think the next update will be anywhere near as epic though, as the numbers dwindle, there's less and less to talk about. I'm personally glad :D I'll answer your new questions in a new thread ;)
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