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Mughal Empire; Khorasan
Topic Started: Mar 8 2014, 09:23 AM (1,051 Views)
Naveed

House of Lords
Goals:
-Prosper
-Industrialize
-Protect Islam from corruptors
-Liberate Russia

Relations:
France - Cordial
Austria - Cordial
Castile - Neutral
England - Friendly, We appreciate the support
Portugal - Great Allies
Ottoman Empire - Corrupted Heretic Muslims
Brandenburg - Neutral
Sweden - Treacherous Swine
Morocco - Friendly Muslims
Qing - Evil Heathens
USA - Friendly, We appreciate the support
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GrenadierSchube

Viceroys
The English would love a trade ally in the Indian ocean :BIENG:
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General Feierabend

House of Commons
The Ming Empire thanks the Mugahl Empire deeply, for the help in times of greatest need and despair. Without your help, the evil hordes of the North could not be stopped anymore. We will never forget this.
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Naveed

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General Feierabend,Mar 9 2014
05:27 AM
The Ming Empire thanks the Mugahl Empire deeply, for the help in times of greatest need and despair. Without your help, the evil hordes of the North could not be stopped anymore. We will never forget this.

We are sure that in time there will be an opportunity for you to repay us.
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Mellhurst

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Muscowy hears that the lands of India and the Prophet are ripe for conquest. Would it not be convenient for the Timurids to learn the arts of the west from Russia once we have digested these advances for ourselves (we would only seek to move slightly south as you move north)?
We dearly and very sincerely hope for as friendly relations with the Timurid Empire as it will accept, Muscowy has always prioritized relations with the near above relations with the afar, but it becomes exceedingly difficult to grow a healthy state when our various muslim neighbors continuously state extreme spheres of future ownership or influence.
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Naveed

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Embassy Updated.
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GrenadierSchube

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England will begin work at once to head over to India to help with westernization efforts of the Great Mughal Empire
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Naveed

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Embassy Updated.

It was close but we have clutched the eastern bits of India from Manchu tyranny. We seek to form military pacts with the great rulers of The Ottoman Empire and The Moroccan Empire in order to insure our mutual defense and the security of Muslims on their route to Mecca.
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GrenadierSchube

Viceroys
For the United Kingdom to willingly westernize the Great Mughal Empire we would require the following

- Permanent Naval base and several bordering provinces
- Tax base of at least 20 for the combined lands
- A dowry of some sort, minimum 500 ducats

Remember, westernization does not necessarily need to happen, it is by our choice to help a muslim such as yourself to achieve western arms and tactics in the fields of technology.
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Naveed

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GrenadierSchube,Mar 26 2014
09:54 AM
For the United Kingdom to willingly westernize the Great Mughal Empire we would require the following

- Permanent Naval base and several bordering provinces
- Tax base of at least 20 for the combined lands
- A dowry of some sort, minimum 500 ducats

Remember, westernization does not necessarily need to happen, it is by our choice to help a muslim such as yourself to achieve western arms and tactics in the fields of technology.

This is outrageous. A slap in the face. Your diplomat has been thrown in the dungeon and will be tortured for the rest of his natural life.

We don't need your precious western technology, we have Allah!
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eric292

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Stay primitive then! Why must innocent men suffer!
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Naveed

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eric292,Mar 26 2014
12:58 PM
Stay primitive then! Why must innocent men suffer!

Proposing the enslavement of thousands of our subjects to foreign rulers is hardly innocent.
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Naveed

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Embassy Updated!

We liberated the hordes from Russian tyranny. We are in the process of showing Russians the true faith. India has nearly been completely converted. We seek to westernize and promote trade and production within our country going forward.
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Dragonknight2

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The Khan presents the following proposal to the great Mughual Emperor:

The Asian Alliance (AA)

Given that we are clearly the two greatest powers in the world, covering nearly half the world, bearing great riches, and fielding great armies, yet we are both not as respected as we should be by the dastardly Europeans, the Great Khan proposes that we unite in our common purpose of establishing a dominate Asian in the world, and exclude the dirty Europeans from our lands.

The pesky Europeans seek to steal our trade riches, and our prime colonial lands, and deserve to know their place, groveling at the feet of the twin Oriental Emperors.

We await your reply, great Mughual Emperor.
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eric292

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Oh Great Khan and Mughal! PLEASE COME EASTERNIZE MEEEEE
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GrenadierSchube

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Dragonknight2,Mar 31 2014
01:16 AM
The Khan presents the following proposal to the great Mughual Emperor:

The Asian Alliance (AA)

Given that we are clearly the two greatest powers in the world, covering nearly half the world, bearing great riches, and fielding great armies, yet we are both not as respected as we should be by the dastardly Europeans, the Great Khan proposes that we unite in our common purpose of establishing a dominate Asian in the world, and exclude the dirty Europeans from our lands.

The pesky Europeans seek to steal our trade riches, and our prime colonial lands, and deserve to know their place, groveling at the feet of the twin Oriental Emperors.

We await your reply, great Mughual Emperor.

In other words

"I have realized I can't annex you until I westernize off you so until then lets be friends, then I shall conquer you."

Don't give in to temptation skywalker! Stay the course!
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Naveed

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Dragonknight2,Mar 31 2014
01:16 AM
The Khan presents the following proposal to the great Mughual Emperor:

The Asian Alliance (AA)

Given that we are clearly the two greatest powers in the world, covering nearly half the world, bearing great riches, and fielding great armies, yet we are both not as respected as we should be by the dastardly Europeans, the Great Khan proposes that we unite in our common purpose of establishing a dominate Asian in the world, and exclude the dirty Europeans from our lands.

The pesky Europeans seek to steal our trade riches, and our prime colonial lands, and deserve to know their place, groveling at the feet of the twin Oriental Emperors.

We await your reply, great Mughual Emperor.

We reject your offer due to your embassy stated policies and past stated policies.

"Conquer ze world!"
"PS. All of Asia is mine; exceptions will have to be agreed to by homage and appropriate tribute to the Great Khan"
"Next game, I will pick a big country next to yours and kill you immediately."[paraphrase]

We do not fear the Europeans. The Mughal Empire will convert the heathens in China to the true faith. Your subjects will bow towards Mecca or die.
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Dragonknight2

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Naveed,Apr 1 2014
05:52 AM
Dragonknight2,Mar 31 2014
01:16 AM
The Khan presents the following proposal to the great Mughual Emperor:

The Asian Alliance (AA)

Given that we are clearly the two greatest powers in the world, covering nearly half the world, bearing great riches, and fielding great armies, yet we are both not as respected as we should be by the dastardly Europeans, the Great Khan proposes that we unite in our common purpose of establishing a dominate Asian in the world, and exclude the dirty Europeans from our lands.

The pesky Europeans seek to steal our trade riches, and our prime colonial lands, and deserve to know their place, groveling at the feet of the twin Oriental Emperors.

We await your reply, great Mughual Emperor.

We reject your offer due to your embassy stated policies and past stated policies.

"Conquer ze world!"
"PS. All of Asia is mine; exceptions will have to be agreed to by homage and appropriate tribute to the Great Khan"
"Next game, I will pick a big country next to yours and kill you immediately."[paraphrase]

We do not fear the Europeans. The Mughal Empire will convert the heathens in China to the true faith. Your subjects will bow towards Mecca or die.

We admire your cunning and guile in presenting this front to the evil europeans.
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eric292

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The guile is very worrisome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmiKo9lvAVg
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Naveed

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Just because we do not fear Europeans does not mean we do not respect their Christian faith. To clarify it is the Pagans in China whose souls need saved. We will send friendly missionaries to Europe to peacefully spread the word of Allah, We are sure the Europeans will convert peacefully.
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Mark0628

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Naveed,Apr 2 2014
07:52 AM
Just because we do not fear Europeans does not mean we do not respect their Christian faith. To clarify it is the Pagans in China whose souls need saved. We will send friendly missionaries to Europe to peacefully spread the word of Allah, We are sure the Europeans will convert peacefully.

Newfoundland suggests you burn the pagans as we all know they are witches!
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Marquis_de_Sade
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The King of France is quite insulted that the Muslim infidels would offer the Portuguese an East Indian trade port before offering one to the glorious Kingdom of France. We do not take these slights by heathen barbarians lightly!
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Naveed

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We apologize if you were slighted it is just that the Portuguese diplomats were trying to stir things up (I saw he was active).

We actually may have a way for France to gain a port as well. But we will need to discuss terms with French diplomats at a later date in private.

Edit:...Also we are not infidels, you are the infidels!! Our riches are great and endless!
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Naveed

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Embassy Updated.

Looking for trustworthy allies who want a piece of Chinese Land.
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Naveed

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Embassy Updated!

We have finally pacified our most hated foe the Qing Empire, hopefully this is not a temporary circumstance.

The Mughal Empire looks to internal development and consolidation in South East Asia.
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GrenadierSchube

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George believes that there should be a discussion with regards to Aceh. This land was originally under Chinese protection and procured by the British diplomats to become part of the British Empire, which was the only reason to why it was released in the first place.

Is there a way we could procure said lands?

If all else fails I suppose we could look towards Korea or other mainland china provinces.
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ileonu
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Naveed,Mar 8 2014
09:23 AM
Castile - Annoyed, don't attack Portugal again

The only thing Spain wants is our land back. Portugal took our land in several uncontested wars helped by several great powers while we fought alone. And even now, with Portugal having almost a 2 to 1 advantage in land troops, even more in the sea and the support of three of the greatest countries in the world, he continue to attack us, for Spain it has been a matter of survival, for Portugal a matter of conquest...

All we want is the return of our historical borders... Portugal has always been the aggressor, and only one time we declared war on them with them attacking us several times...

We only hope that Spanish people is under the Spanish flag...
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eric292

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What a spout of lies.

Ask anyone else in the world if they think that the following is appropriate:

Nation A and Nation B are neighbors and closest allies. Mutual.

Aggressor Nation C, demands B let him through to kill nation A.

Nation B allows nation C to kill A.

Does Nation A have the justification to feel betrayed by Nation B?

IMHO, absolutely. I'd like to hear someone disagree, that's not Nation B in this example.

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And you dare to refer to me as the aggressor? You have declared all wars post when we attacked you because of the Mexican mistake.

You reference my land numbers, we have the same, and my troops are pitiful. You walked all over me in the first war and the second.

You paid the price for your vile treachery (MA to FRANCE) by forfeiting your lands. You also need to remember that you broke a treaty with England in Mexico, this also cost you lands.

I made a grave mistake in declaring war on you to get back what you took in our first war last session.

Also not my problem you've done ZERO diplomacy in this game.

(EXAMPLE BEING I SECURED MY PROTECTION FROM YOU FROM FRANCE, BUT SINCE HE LEFT AND NOW A sub-PERM IS THERE YOU GOT TO SEND A SINGLE PRIVATE MESSAGE TO GET YOUR OWN GUARANTEE. GOLF CLAP....)

And Frankly, I offered you all your land back for the promise to cease hostilities and you would pay me 3.5K ducats. Which was under ten years of income from those lands only.

You spat in my face at this very generous offer.

As you do now.

You will die.

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(REMINDER: THIS IS INGAME TALK <3 to ILEONU OTHERWISE)
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ileonu
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If the Portugal's King thinks letting the French troops cross our land to end a war against England, then he doesn't understand how he was used by the evil Queen of England as a pawn... even more... Portugal didn't lose nothing on that war... our goal to keep world balance forcing a white peace between France and England was achieved....

After that Portugal broke his alliance with us and started several wars of aggression with his allies which almost ended with our extinction...

We will do whatever is needed to take our land back.... and only hope that the great powers of the world understand that is not thirst of conquest what guides us but only justice...

(Np Portugal... ingame talking FTW)

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eric292

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You hold no authority to say that I was being used as a pawn.

Because of the lack of telling me what France was doing;
Because of your mistake in Mexico;
Because of your lack of negotiations with me post Mexico;
Because of your surprise attack in Iberia;

Because of those things, you also do not have credibility to claim I was a pawn.

If I was being a pawn, I certainly did not need you intervening on that behalf, I can take care of myself. So don't act as though you were "saving me"

And England had a legit CB on France, his demands were small and there was no disruption to the balance of power. As if Spain, as if...some block-aide would have brought major geopolitical changes.

Regardless of what your reasons you acted for yourself, not for the alliance. Treason.

Portugal didn't lose nothing on that war... our goal to keep world balance

I lost what I entered the war for in the first place, I lost ships, and I lost 400 ducats to France.

And you can notice "our" in your very sentence. You did not consider our alliance, our brethren blood. You acted out of purely Castilian interests.

And, again, Portuguese Aggression? You've been the one whose started warring. We haven't done anything, and even denied other nations approaching us to do so; in at least 150+ years.

(Also mad kudos for sticking it out Spain, you're certainly right when you self-claim resilience! Should have taken you out when I had the chance!!! ;-) Story of every nation's life)
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