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Embassy of the Qing: Dragon Emperor of the East; Diplomacy, Intrigue & Subterfuge
Topic Started: May 8 2014, 06:44 PM (278 Views)
ragingrondo12

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:BICHI:

The mighty Nation of Qing Welcomes all. Give us your News and your offerings so that we may trade, and create a more profitable union.
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TornadoWatch
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Sweden sends their regards to the new Emperor and wishes then luck in rebuilding.

Unfortunately, we will do no more than this due to our ties with our Mughal friends.
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Naveed

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We wish to warn the new Qing emperor that any attempt perceived or direct to retake territory from The Mughal Empire or our protectorates will result in an immediate declaration of war.
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ragingrondo12

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And we the Qing, wish to inform the Mooghal Cowherder to keep his tail in his own nape of the world, swatting flies, as they swarm around his excrement.

Additionally we warn him not to let his rampant paranoia and delusions of grandeur to cloud his judgement, anymore so than it already is.

With best regards, Qing.
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Naveed

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ragingrondo12,May 9 2014
07:25 AM
And we the Qing, wish to inform the Mooghal Cowherder to keep his tail in his own nape of the world, swatting flies, as they swarm around his excrement.

Additionally we warn him not to let his rampant paranoia and delusions of grandeur to cloud his judgement, anymore so than it already is.

With best regards, Qing.

(OOC perhaps you should look at the map :X)

We will be preparing for war immediately in order to force Qing to relinquish it's claims to our land and that of our vassals.

Good Day!
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ragingrondo12

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Well the territory in question was originally the property of Qing, so you were and still are the aggressor.

Oh and I have looked at the map. Bring it on Nerfherder.
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GrenadierSchube

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The British welcome the new Qing emperor to the throne. Though we were not able to assist thee in the last war, leavin you alone to battle the Mughal hordes for 50+ years, we will not abandon you this one around if it was to occur again. The Mughals Needed the help of Portugal, France, and the Ottoman Empire to defeat your previous ruler. We will not sit by and allow you to be harassed and torn apart again.
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Naveed

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GrenadierSchube,May 9 2014
08:32 AM
The British welcome the new Qing emperor to the throne. Though we were not able to assist thee in the last war, leavin you alone to battle the Mughal hordes for 50+ years, we will not abandon you this one around if it was to occur again. The Mughals Needed the help of Portugal, France, and the Ottoman Empire to defeat your previous ruler. We will not sit by and allow you to be harassed and torn apart again.

If you want him to sit at -100 prestige for the rest of the game gladly intervene. We will only go after revoking cores or defend our protectorates.
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ragingrondo12

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GrenadierSchube,May 9 2014
08:32 AM
The British welcome the new Qing emperor to the throne. Though we were not able to assist thee in the last war, leavin you alone to battle the Mughal hordes for 50+ years, we will not abandon you this one around if it was to occur again. The Mughals Needed the help of Portugal, France, and the Ottoman Empire to defeat your previous ruler. We will not sit by and allow you to be harassed and torn apart again.

The Emperor of the Qing is thankful to the British Crown for their proclamation of support, but hopes that they will not need to be involved, and hopes that the silly scruffy looking Nerfherders of the Mooghal cow-farmering Corporation will fight the mighty Qing 1v1. However seeing as the Cow-farmers seem not to attack unless he is assured victory and has the backing of half the world, I fear that you will undoubtably become involved.


In the words of Churchill:

Even though large tracts of Asia and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Hordes and all the odious apparatus of MOO-GAL rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Land, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and if, which I do not for a moment believe, this nation or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the Far East.




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Naveed

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We would be happy to fight 1 vs 1. As long as you don't bring in allies I will not bring in allies.
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GrenadierSchube

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Naveed,May 9 2014
10:07 AM
We would be happy to fight 1 vs 1. As long as you don't bring in allies I will not bring in allies.

LOL mughal emperor said this before, then called in 3 or 4 allies over the course of a 60 year war.

never trust him.
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eric292

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What's with all the alliance bashing? It's uncalled for! (in my opinion, feel free to explain why I am incorrect)

For two reasons:

1.) It is completely valid to use people as a team to defeat an enemy. Its not gamey or cheating at all.

2.) Let us also be crystal fucking clear on the help the Mughuls got against Qing. Naveed only received help from me and Ottomans.

Of that help:

a.) My help was 80% useless, for fifty years of combat (one and a half complete sessions) I literally did nothing to help the Mughuls besides sieging a few provinces and occupying Qing armies for a few weeks at a time as they chased down my 20k stacks and annihilated them without taking more than 500 casualties.

Only during the second session, once my new navy came online, was I able to meaningfully assist the Mughuls win.

b.) That's it. No other help was procured and used. Ottomans marched on TWO occasions ~80k troops to India, fought one single battle and retreated.

I have stated before, and stand confidently that, that "help" from the Ottomans hurt us more than helped.

Naveed's grave tactical error the entire war was being way to aggressive against Qing, and Ottoman's "Oh I'll come help" would kick us into high gear, only to have him abandon us within two weeks.

So we'd be pushed aggressively against Qing, without the support needed for that push.

~~~~~

Naveed won the war through determination, a Portuguese ally who finally helped, persistence, and likely quite a bit of luck.

Of all the diplomacy that was orchestrated to assist the Mughuls in preventing pure Evil from spreading West, only I fulfilled that duty. I was also the only one to receive spoils. (if I recall correctly)

~~~~~

TL DR;

Now that the remnants of Qing are ruled by a different ruler, and due to the increased power Mughuls now hold, I can assure Qing that Portugal will not be getting involved in any other offensive/belligerent Asian or Indian matters.

~~~~~
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Naveed

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GrenadierSchube,May 9 2014
10:18 AM
LOL mughal emperor said this before, then called in 3 or 4 allies over the course of a 60 year war.

This was never said.
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ragingrondo12

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Qing Happy. Has regained much of what it had lost, and can now revert to talking about its glorious self in the third Person. Additionally keynesian economics have been lifted, and Qing is once again Prosperous. All countries are free to ship their Drugs to Qing, for we are a happy state, and a good state.

Qing out. :BICHI:




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TornadoWatch
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sweden's got high quality kush if you want any.

oh, and blonde haired and blue eyed women. for a price.
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ragingrondo12

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TornadoWatch,May 14 2014
03:01 PM
sweden's got high quality kush if you want any.

oh, and blonde haired and blue eyed women. for a price.

I'm more of a Dirty Ginger/Redhead/Brunette person myself. Thanks for the offer though. We will take the Kush. Qing needs more Kush for its growing population.

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