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Philosophy; ...What's in your mind
Topic Started: Aug 29 2004, 07:03 PM (2,408 Views)
Nodron Simpleton
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I get it completely. But therefore, it would be impossible to travel at the speed of lights, because there is no existing mass for that speed. This should explain why you can never get to the core of a black hole. (a scientist discovered there is an unkknows force keeping you away from it.)
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Sigfried
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anyone have ever thought about the time as the strings of a loom??
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Nodron Simpleton
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...explain further :blink:
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Sigfried
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simple, all the events are streamed like the strings of a loom, every minor action is a lesser string which is eliminated further the whole main string develops, but the important events are like the strings interlaces each one another, its like a great event as the destruction of the twin towers in america affected me with the expulsion of my mother in the work, as an example, what you think about this theory?? :)
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Nodron Simpleton
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I like it, but I don't get it compeltely, I'd love to learn more about it.
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Dunlavy
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My friend heard of an idea once.... I don't quite remember it... it deals with being in space and the speed of the spaceship. At a certain velocity if you tied a rope from one end of the ship to the other, and the rope was a certain length and you swung from it to the other end of the ship, you'd have technicly gotten to the back, before you ever left the front...
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Sigfried
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every great action is interconected to the whole world, thats why the saying evertyhing has a purpose exists, just check the nature himself, thats a good example :D
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Dunlavy
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I know theres a purpose for trees.... besides being cut down....
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Sigfried
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right, just think about, if we cut the threes, we are not only making a desert, but also we ae destroying a home, a refuge, a shield, and a source of oxigen, everything its in the web!!!! :)
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Dunlavy
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We are humans.... well.... most are.... It's ironic that most humans do things that are inhumane.... Trees were always meant to be respected.... but we cut them down without a second thought. I'm not saying that trees were never cut down in the past, but people only cut down what they needed, not excess... The druids cut what they needed, but not without asking the tree.
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Sigfried
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lets see the definiton of humanity

the use of reason above all the animals of the earth, mmm, our actions dont convince me, perhaps we need a darwinian jump to improve
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Dunlavy
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heh, don't worry...... i'll change our ways.... one way or another
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Sigfried
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kindness starts at home :)
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Dunlavy
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Exactly, i've converted my family to respecting all of nature...
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Sigfried
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behold my dead city, it would be a hard work, so im just going to leave <_<

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Dunlavy
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The trees will have their revenge.... at one point...
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Sephiroth
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yo mamma's daddy!!
Hey have you heard the crazy idea that trees feel pain?? What do ya'll think bout that?
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Elwe
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Dunlavy
Aug 30 2004, 10:10 AM
Exactly, i've converted my family to respecting all of nature...

I hate to see bad things happen to forests and oceans and what not. I grew up on an island just off of British Collumbia and it was sort of mountainous and had lots of trees. I had to move and I came to Alberta and hated it ever since. Its all cities and there are hardly any trees unless you go into the mountains. I love forests, I see our need for wood and paper and what not, but I hate to see sensless pollution and what not. The forest is my favorite place in the world and I have a large respect for that.
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Markham Carroll
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Aug 30 2004, 02:13 PM
Hey have you heard the crazy idea that trees feel pain?? What do ya'll think bout that?

Well, considering that trees don't have brains or a neural network, I'd have to say that's scientifically impossible.
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Sigfried
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i agree with that
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Abomination
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Let's return to the Universe thingy. It is proven the universe is curved. From this point, (Einstein has worked on the curve of the universe, and the light from the sun to the earth has a bend) we must assume the universe is of circular form, like a donut or a sphere, probably rotating. For example: Lets say the universe is of donut shape, lets cut a slice of this donut. In the edge of this circle, lets call it the "crust" , the "crust" is a fixed, low velocity perimeter to the universe's edge. Now let's place the earth in our donut slice, around the middle, but not exactly in the middle. Now this zone (the middle area) is of higher velocity, with more ability to move. So to resume. We have a rotating donut, and inside the donut is planet earth, rotating inside the donut faster than the "crust". From the point of view of a scientist on earth, looking at the crust from the inside with a huge telescope, would see a wall of stars, the low density zone of the universe. Now he would theorize the donut is expanding, because this wall is moving away. Is the scientist seeing the universe expand or simply the rotation of the universe ?

Now part 2: Time bends. An old trick from our friend Einstein. Lets draw 3 lines on a piece of paper, and cut a line in a piece of cardboard. The slide of the piece of cardboard on te piece of paper represents the time flow. Now lets imagine an oblique, strait line of the piece of paper. You slide the piece of cardboard, and the small piece of line you can see is an object moving, consequently with the time flowing. (You need to have seen this before to understand what i am saying.) Now, I am warning everyone: If you are lost now, close this topic. If you think you're following, try to continue. If you are perfectly aware of what i am saying, where is the point of reading this ? You think you understand ? ok. Let's proceed, shall we ?
Now. Lets incline horizontally the piece of cardboard with the cut line. This represents a bend on the universe, or a bend in time, relativly. The piece of cardboard moving at the same speed with make the object (a piece of the line) move much faster. Positive bend in time = Speedy object, and Positive bend of the universe = Speedy object. The next part is REALLY hard to explain without a board.
I will then "make one".

George Jack
5:00 PM 5:00 PM

6:00 PM 6:00 PM

7:00 PM 7:00 PM

8:00 PM 8:00 PM

Now. Imagine a line coming from George's 7:00 PM to Jack's 6:00 PM. Let's say this oblique bar represents a (huge) bend in time. Time flows normally, but for George, it's (really) 7:00 PM, and for Jack, it's (really) 6:00 PM. So this creates a situation where unusal thigs can happen. An example, easy to understand if you're still here, and more shit if you're completely lost, as I was the first time. We have a wooden log, 10 meters long, and we want to put it inside a 8 meters long barn, and close each door. Using this time bend, (refer to the graphic again) A external viewer (let's say not affected by this time bend) would see the log enter the barn, the doors closed, and the log exit the barn. What actually happens is that at George's 6:00 PM, with a closed rear door. Open the rear door, move the log, close the front door, move the log away in Jack's 6:00 PM. So George would see the log stay in place for an hour (using the previous one hour time bend) before it moves, and Jack would see the log come out at 6:00 PM. So the log entered at 6:00 Pm to the external viewer, and exited at 6:00 PM too. The 10 meter log went in the 8 meter barn.

Now that you (maybe) understand time bends, using the bend of the universe, it is logical to deduce time travel is possible, using an already existing time bend: The curve of the universe.

This is (in resume) the content of a 3 hour course i took, and one of the many works of Einstein. I must applause to everyone who understood, because my brain was smashed to pieces after this course. It took around an hour and a half to explain everything, and another hour and a half to reexplain stuff to people(like me) who didn't understand. I am not a physician. Many of my sentences could be incomplete or not precise. This is a very simple way to explain things, without getting into details. But it sure was fun to write it again. Thanks people.

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Lucifer
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Aug 30 2004, 10:15 AM
behold my dead city, it would be a hard work, so im just going to leave <_<

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that looks like jim morrison from the doors before acid and all those drugs that made him crazy
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Sigfried
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ah, the theory of relativity, i love it B)

and that goes with...
its me, so what <_<
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Fatsack
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What if none of this is real? What if you are the creator of everything? You made everything. You created history, yet you don't know it. You created flight, yet you cannot do it. Everything that happens is created by you. All conversations and happenings are just a figment of your imagination. Concepts, philosophy, religions. You are the greatest story teller ever. You created all those books, yet you can't seem to write them yourself. You could be the only thing that really exists. How do you know that all others surrounding you are actually people? How do you know that's ground you're standing on? How do you know you're actually standing? How do you know that the thoughts you're thinking are actually thoughts?

Of course, I don't believe in any of that. It just freaks me out when I think, "What if I'm all that exists, and I imagined all this?"
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Firesong
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Hmmm, the best theory is that no theory is right and can be proven wrong, even this theory... Don't you just love paradoxes?
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