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Philosophy; ...What's in your mind
Topic Started: Aug 29 2004, 07:03 PM (2,407 Views)
funnybunny
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i think trees can't feel pain they just don't have a brain or something :P
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Nodron Simpleton
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funybunny is right, altough it doesn't have that much to do with brains, more with nerves. If a creature would have nerves, but no brain (which would be retty senceless), then that crature would be able to feel, without even notice the pain. Like funnybunny said, I don't think trees can think/feel, because they have no nerves. but I do think they feel and live in a different way. Experiences and things that happened to you make you wise and strong, or weak and sad,...
I believe those 'experiences' have an influence on trees too. When look at an older tree in the wods, I can tell you if he has been trough a lot, or if he led a peaceful life.

...if you get that.
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Sigfried
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until now, no one have proven that the relativity theory its wrong
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Nodron Simpleton
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it has been proven that it's not completely correct...

Men can't travel in time.
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Sigfried
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it seems that you forgot the theory of steven hawkins about time travel B)
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Nodron Simpleton
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I meant: people can't travel trough time via a black hole. If Einsteins theory was completely right, then we should be able. Some professors in a university in england proved that this way is impossible to do it. They discovered that an unknown force keeps you away from the centerpoit og the black hole (the place you must get to to travel trough time.)

Wormholes and timetravveling trough strings has not been proven impossible.

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Sigfried
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correct, its imposible via black holes, the gravity its so dense that it will crush the shuttle into an atom :)
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Fatsack
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Yes it will. What is this whole time travel thing that Stephen Hawking speaks of?
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Sigfried
Sep 4 2004, 04:31 PM
correct, its imposible via black holes, the gravity its so dense that it will crush the shuttle into an atom :)

yes, but even if your spaceship is crushed to the size of an atom, it can still travel trougfh time, right.
Even that has been proven impossible.

And I'm curious about Steph hawkins too
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whats the worth of time travel being dead?? :rolleyes:
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Nodron Simpleton
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none, but we're talking about the possibility of traveling trough time with a black hole.
mmm, I don't think there is anything else worth to say about this, so we better change the subject I think.

ofcourse philosophy is a big term, you can talk about nearly everything...
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Sigfried
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yep, thats why i love it :D
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Fatsack
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If things traveled through time in black holes, where ever they went would be the brightest place in the multiverse.
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Sigfried
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maybe im wrong, but a black hole its just like a gravity void, it can absorb even the light :worry:
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Nodron Simpleton
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that's true Imagine what power must be in that thing.
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Sigfried
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even a star can be absorbed by it :gasp:
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funnybunny
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that must be one hell of a bigass hole B)
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Dunlavy
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It's not about how huge it is. It might be a centemeter large, it would still have the ability to take light as well as planets into it. I seriously wonder if we'd truly die if we went into a black hole..
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Sep 4 2004, 11:44 PM
I meant: people can't travel trough time via a black hole. If Einsteins theory was completely right, then we should be able. Some professors in a university in england proved that this way is impossible to do it. They discovered that an unknown force keeps you away from the centerpoit og the black hole (the place you must get to to travel trough time.)

Wormholes and timetravveling trough strings has not been proven impossible.

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Wrong. Einstein said nothing about black holes. Didn't you read my reply on universal rotation ? Time travel is possible with a bend in space. A black hole is just a REALLY dense star that collapsed on it's own weight. Like an ordinary star, it attracts stuff, blends the stuff, and becomes even denser. With time, you get like a SUPER MASSIVE matter blob, wich attracts everything, even photons. Wich makes black holes invisible, but they have nothing to do with time travel. A black hole is just massive.

One spoonful of black hole = many times the weight of the sun.

What keeps you from getting to the middle (the middle isnt even a place where you travel. It's just a place where you get squished) is matter. The "unknown force" is matter. Try getting through supercondensed steel ? Hmm... a lot of work just to get squished a bit more. Enough rubbish. Black holes do not make you travel in time or space. But space makes you travel in time...
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anyone have info about wormholes??Posted Image
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Sigfried
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mmm, maybe the nietzchean philosophy and the stoicism can suit you Posted Image
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Dunlavy
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It wasn't really hidden... it's actually able to be read.....
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Sigfried
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translation?? :mellow:
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Dunlavy
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I was wanting to know that as well...
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Sigfried
Sep 5 2004, 01:55 AM
anyone have info about wormholes??Posted Image

it are 'haleways' that can bend time and space
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