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Philosophy; ...What's in your mind
Topic Started: Aug 29 2004, 07:03 PM (2,403 Views)
Sigfried
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i dont think that, as my history and linguistic teacher told me, "the best way to transmit info its making it simple" ;)

its like writing a book, you can make a story very complicated and full of tecnicisms with 100 pages and nobody understands, but making a book with 500 pages in 5 chapters (like "El Quijote" of Cervantes) and you could read it very easy and understanding everything B)
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Oh yeah... I heard those things... "Keep it simple and stupid". What you don't understand is that everything I'm saying now is simple. It's the goddamn basics of things I don't even understand. So there is no simpler way to express things about the fourth dimension (logically). If it's simpler than what I said, it's wrong. Maybe it's simpler to make long things in a very simple way, but the fourth dimension doesn't get simpler than that. In a way, I am "keeping it simple", because this is not a basic subject.
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Sigfried
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well, first of all im not stupid

second, im not saying that everything can be simple, its the way how you transmit the info to make it simple to understand, and i bet that a master scholar can simplify you explanaton, its only a matter of the degree of knowledge
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Keeping it simple is usually a matter of using examples and metaphor to get an idea across. If you use something from everyday life to represent a more complicated matter, it makes it easier to understand. For instance, the basis of a wormhole is extremely complicated, but if you think of something like say, a piece of spaghetti as the universe, a wormhole just connects the two ends. That way, you just have to jump a little distance, instead of traversing the entire distance of the noodle. Its just a way of representing something in two dimensions that in actual fact takes up 4 or more.
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I don't know if a master scholar could simplify what I've learned, because what I've learned (about 85$ a three day course in university) is the real basics, and it took me a while to get it. A master scholar would simplify what i said with drawings, which i cannot do in a forum. There is no keeping simple what is already a complicated subject. What we are talking about now is the best way to express things, and if you don't understand what I say, then why bother ?
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Because people want to know about things: they want the knowledge that can only come from deep thought and concentration, but they don't want to work at it because they're lazy. And that's probably one reason why there's religion.^_^
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Bah.. religion is a support through your life. If you don't need a support or a guide, you don't need religion. This is what i think... Religion should be an aspect of your life, not the center of it. I highly disrespect religon fanatics.
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brackenwoodfire
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Well I myself grew up in a christian family so I grew up christian and can't stop being christian but im not one of those weirdy fanatics that worry until they cant sleep that your gonna burn in heck if you dont pray. Plus I'm a pretty lousy christian I forget to pray and I havent gone to church in a few years. <_<
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Sigfried
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thanks to the gods im not christian anymore, all the methods of thought and rationalization of the monotheistic religions are too harmfull for the free thinkers
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Agent_Sarah
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I believe there's more than one god. And I worship everyone of them.
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Sigfried
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i only stick to my religion, to many gods to honour and not enought time
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I don't believe there is a consiousness that guides the universe, or a god. I do believe something is there, but it's far too big(not nearly a good enough adjective, but it'll have to do) and primitive and wonderful to be a thinking being. It's beyond thought, beyond human philosophy. The closest I've come to naming it is simply Nature itself. It's not just one thing, but all the forces of nature combined: gravity, light, matter, energy, time, and a whole lot more that the human mind is simply incapable of percieving. It's part of everything, and everything is part of it.

I believe gods are simply the personification of various forces Nature itself, and inadequate ones at that. However, they do make people happy, and they do make life more simple, so I don't begrudge people for believing in them. There's just no god I've ever found who I want to worship.
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elemental spirit
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gods or deities can only really exist if people believe they do. I personally believe what ever god or higher you believe is real but which ever it is its just another form of the same one
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elemental spirit
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here is a new topic what if our universe is small tiny piece of another bigger one i.e a snowflake or a stone?
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Or like at the end of Men in Black, where the galaxy is the size of a marble and that big critter is playing with a sack full of galaxies. ;) It could be possible, you never know. On the other tack, there could be entire universes in every atom. We don't know that quarks are the smallest particles of matter, just the smallest ones we've theorized.
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Sigfried
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every aspect of nature is controlled by one entity at a time, according to my belief, the world as it is made its too complex and pragmatic to simplify its functioning to be controled by one single higher force, one hand controling every aspect of the universe its too simplistic to explain all the variations, events and singularities
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Cainon
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Oct 14 2004, 02:32 AM
here is a new topic what if our universe is small tiny piece of another bigger one i.e a snowflake or a stone?

its an interesting theroy you should read the dark tower series by stephen king the books are set on a world that is part of a larger the called the dark tower and all the world are in this tower tis an interesting series
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i think religion is people's gut crying out for action and attention all together.

Since people 'evolved' and started to become 'civilised' we neglected our emotions, natural drives, why do you think it feels so good to give into your hate and what not?... coz it's nature, no messing with nature, it's not a sentient being it's rules, like an engine (physics engine) no breaking natures rules either.

We tried to defy and refrain from them, but we only fooled ourselves.

Believing in greater beings is your choice, even I have theories explaining alot of people's questions up to a point the logic grows beyond me and my knowledge.

I just believe people should figure themselves out first before starting to go above their heads, or just shut up all together and just live their lives.

Then again, i'm only.... aaargh i can't say this... huuu huuuuu maaaa... hu maa... bah... Human. there i said it... happy? :D
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elemental spirit
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heres something interesting a read about druids earlier this year, apparently druids had their own personal gods and deites that channeled their through them, weird huh. Imagine having a personal god
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To the ancient celtic people(of whom the druids were the holy people), religion was a very personal thing. There was little doctrine that had to be followed, as they had no written word. They had various gods and myths, but what an individual believed was mostly based on their own needs. For instance, a hunter would pray to a god of the hunt, while a farmer would pray to a god of fertility.
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Sigfried
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mmm, celts do have a written language
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Agent_Sarah
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I picture God as a kind, being of pure energy and can change into anything it wants (yes, I called God an "it" because no one doesn't know the creator's gender).
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Sigfried
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i just need many gods, specially in this days
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Agent_Sarah
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Who you want me to summon?
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Sigfried
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dont bother, my gods never take part of the human world, except in special occassions, also there is a particular way to summon them
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