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How I Started.....how I Did It...how I Went Back; hmmm
Topic Started: Oct 29 2004, 06:17 AM (148 Views)
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The Token Black Guy
when i first started using flash,i hand inked all my frames and colored em in photoshop,then imported the frames into flash only to find the file size was WHOA!!!.....so then i started to draw in flash,oh sure...it worked out easier...but i started to lose my style,and the quailty of animation.


so now i wanna go back to how i started *drawing the frames on tracing paper blah blah,hand ink,photshop blah blah..import to flash blah*

come sumone tell me...is there a way i can possibly do this without making the file size HUUUUUUUUGE! ? i tried optimizing,curves etc. doesn't seem to effect it that much.

well one solution wud be inking the characters and coloring in flash.but what if i want painted backgrounds from photoshop??

i know Mr. Adam here just draws straight into flash :yfok: hehehe.

help me out yet again...thanks!
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Euhm... i don't really know flash... and i don't know it's possibilities... but i do know that Photoshop just uses pixel formats. Giving each pixel in the picture a value which gives it it's colours... and in that way giving it your lines.

Flash uses vectors... forgot who thought that up... but the storage format is completely different... Kinda like the difference between how an engine renders pictures and how animation programs like 3dsm and the like render their pictures... ( the engine can do it in seconds... all those calculations... the animation program sometimes takes a good day for small frames... )

Bah i lack the knowledge to fully explaine it... but i THINK that is the problem...
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The Token Black Guy
oh no..........oh no...........i'm not learning more crappy calcualations :lol: ...there must be a easier way...plus i got no idea how to give pixel values. :unsure:
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you don't have to do calculations :|... that vector system does it for you... it's i think 3 or 4 formulae it uses to create 1 single line with a single curve.

If you create a line in photoshop, the photoshop engine identifies which pixels were struck with your brush... and in what amount... it then calculates the associated colour codes to it and saves it. How it is stored is based on the extension but they all use the pixel grid system.

a single vector uses only 3 points... per end. No matter the length of the line.

Bah i need pictures to tell you how it's done :P maybe the flash experts know how to explain this more clearly :P... Sorry i can't help out :(...
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The Token Black Guy
not gunna lie to u..........i had no idea what u just sed and i've been using photoshop for 3 years :lol: i'm gunna die :(
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I'm sure you already know this, but the reason Flash files are usually smaller is cos it's a vector program. When you introduce bitmaps into the movie, you aren't using vectors anymore. Therefore the lovely image you created in photoshop is going to be the one that boosts the file-size. You can convert bitmaps to vector by using 'Trace Bitmap' in the Modify>Shape (I think?) menu.. but if you're in love with your paintings, you're not going to be happy with the Trace Bitmap result.

It's just a fact of Flash I'm afraid. If you want to use bitmaps, you will be making the file-size bigger :worry:
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The Token Black Guy
:angry: stupid crappy limited flash!!!!
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go into your Publish settings and set the jpg quality lower. I think the default is 80%, so put the slider way down. I think all the blurred bitmaps in Prowlies are at 50% (from memory).

That will drop the file size a lot. Remember, Flash media is designed to integrate with a browser which is generally allocated very little in the way of CPU resources.

Also, you do realize that if you were to use any other program to display images, animation, music, video, the file size would be much higher, don't you? See? Flash ain't that stupid, crappy or limited (otherwise it would not be industry standard multimedia authoring tool for the web) :blink:

- and no I don't work for macromedia :P
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lies...u made macromedia dude. <_< :lol:

i don't mind as long as the file size doesn't go over 5megs so i can post on newgrounds.

hey wait minute...yeh...isn't that newgrounds limit,how comes u got to post 5.5 megs.

u got special privelages cos of ur pro background UNFAIR!! lol
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