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Daily Sketch Thread; wanna become the great artist?
Tweet Topic Started: Dec 18 2004, 07:59 PM (213,967 Views)
mr.nurbs	Sep 1 2005, 08:27 PM Post #2476
Brackenwood greeter Posts: 4,039 Group: Global Mod Member #7 Joined: May 18, 2004	Damn Humble that's beautiful for a quickie...That sorta stuff would take me ages although i don't really touch digital paint as often as i should......You should've fired up Camtasia before you started that...I would've loved to see you sketching that..... Splendid....And I love hearing you talk about composition and staging because that is definitely one of your strongest points aside from being a prolific artist.... You make Wendy Proud! I have to wipe this shit off my nose now excuse me..



NOOB!	Sep 1 2005, 08:44 PM Post #2477
The Token Black Guy Posts: 3,141 Group: Brackenites Member #363 Joined: September 13, 2004	lol humble,when i crit sumones work i wud never redo the persons actually pic,cos then it just brings all the attention to me or in this case u but maybe anghen is a tad stronger than that. i didn't read through humbles crit anghen cos its hella long,u cud probably make a movie out of it :lol: but the one thing i didn' like was the centered ness of everything, ahhh characters in the middle of the page...aaarrrghh. i cud go on but i'm sure humble probably already critted everything else in his novel. nice attempt all round though anghen. and nice pic humble.



juggleballz	Sep 1 2005, 10:01 PM Post #2478
I'm loose, full of juice and ready for use! Posts: 4,450 Group: MotM Member #51 Joined: June 13, 2004	lol noob. damn humble thats great for a quickie. (i wish my quickies were as good, and i think my gf wud agree.....ehem ignore that) btw, im fascinated by how u talk about composition too. its like a science so to speak and how to get perfect ambience or mood from an angle is hard for me, but dead easy for u. did u learn this stuff from teaching urself or did u attend specific classes based on art structure?



Anghenfil	Sep 1 2005, 11:55 PM Post #2479
PELICAAAAAN Posts: 2,869 Group: Global Mod Member #1,110 Joined: April 14, 2005	Wow humble, that is almost EXACTLY the lighting I was anticipating. Can you read my mind???? Gah. Only thing that was different is that there are a few dim ceiling lights left in that opera house, hence the down lighting on the beast and girl. I was going to tone it down quite a bit, but, you know... I should stop making making excuses. It's a piece of crap right now and that's a-okay. This is a lesson to me that lighting should be developed mostly in tangent with the form. Well, I'll put your thoughts on the back burner, but I'm not liking my progress on this piece so far. It's okay, I've got other things to work on. Thanks humble! Awesome quickie. I wish I could cut off your hands and transplant them onto my wrists. Noob... Chill. Centering isn't the end of the world. It's how you break up the space overall. [Edit] Humble, tell me your brush settings or I'll break your face!!! How are you geting everything so smooth and soft?



NOOB!	Sep 2 2005, 12:21 AM Post #2480
The Token Black Guy Posts: 3,141 Group: Brackenites Member #363 Joined: September 13, 2004	Anghenfil Sep 1 2005, 11:55 PM Centering isn't the end of the world. i'm afraid it is. u've killed us all.



Rubberhead	Sep 2 2005, 03:03 AM Post #2481
Fatscat Kittycat Posts: 4,803 Group: Moderator Member #71 Joined: June 20, 2004	humbleego Sep 1 2005, 02:21 PM Hope you don't mind me meddling, Ang, but your painting got in my head so I decided to mess around a bit with it. First I was thinking about the problem of lighting this girl effectively. Then I thought, well if this amulet senses spirits, then it would be sensing the business end of that creature behind her. So, Then I thought if it glowed a color different from the candles, it mind help us frame her a bit. Then, I started thinking about composition. Depending on what you're trying to evoke from your audience (empathy for the girl, general overall creepiness, etc.), you could compose this numerous ways. The way I tried was sort of generic, but if you wished us to indentify with her more, you might bring her much closer to us. If you wished us to feel her solitude or her physical inferiority to the beast, you might show her entire body huddled near a corner, with her orb light isolating her from the warm candlelight. Anyway, I'm rambling. As for the previous flatness, something occured to me while doing this. Your candle structures are perfectly crisp. While the rest of the painting is soft. I think blurring the candles significantly will help break her away from them and create a bit more depth. Obviously, this was a quickie and it's light years from perfect (could stand to shift her left in frame and that orb color doesn't quite work), but I wanted to give it a quick go to see if I could help. It's a great concept, so I'd like to see you tackle it in true Ang fashion. Anyway, hope this triggers some ideas for ya. Hey bleego, I'm wondering what kind of brush you used. Also do you generally start of with a midtone or a dark base layer? PS: Anghen, your picture reminded me of this piece: http://teamgtcom.temp.powweb.com/gallery/a...tion/dragon.jpg



humbleego	Sep 2 2005, 04:49 AM Post #2482
Adam's Illegitimate Son Posts: 3,996 Group: Global Mod Member #599 Joined: November 11, 2004	Answers & opinions! Brush settings: That was done in Sketchbook and all I used was the basic Pencil, Marker and Airbrush. Nothing fancy, the only thing I ever alterd was the brush size. Where did I start?: For this, I did a super rough base sketch. Then worked in the girl on a seperate layer. As for the BG, I started with a dark red/brown then worked it lighter or darking depending on the area. But, with lightening like this, I always work dark to light. The beast for example was just a dark near black area, and I built up the lightning. Centering: I lean towards Nubian's view on this one. For the most part, I do believe centering to be the devil. But, it had very distinct uses especially in context to other comps. For example, when storyboarding, I choose assymetrical comps 98% of the time, but a symmetrical comp can be extremely effective when used in context. It becomes a stand-out, and can make things feel slightly off. There's great use of this sort of thing in the Royal Tenebaums. My Ego: Yes, Noob, "redoing" someone else's work does tend to distract. Subconsciously, perhaps that was the intent. But, consciously it was because I have a difficult time expressing certain things in words and find it much easier to convey ideas with images.



Anghenfil	Sep 2 2005, 05:05 AM Post #2483
PELICAAAAAN Posts: 2,869 Group: Global Mod Member #1,110 Joined: April 14, 2005	humbleego Sep 1 2005, 02:49 PM My Ego: Yes, Noob, "redoing" someone else's work does tend to distract. Subconsciously, perhaps that was the intent. But, consciously it was because I have a difficult time expressing certain things in words and find it much easier to convey ideas with images. I absolutely didn't mind. It was pretty damn clear that mine wasn't going places, and you did a fine job. No hard feelings here; I enjoy seeing your work. :lol:



humbleego	Sep 2 2005, 05:18 AM Post #2484
Adam's Illegitimate Son Posts: 3,996 Group: Global Mod Member #599 Joined: November 11, 2004	Yeah, that was mostly a retort to Noob, who is forever busting my balls. :lol:



Anghenfil	Sep 2 2005, 05:23 AM Post #2485
PELICAAAAAN Posts: 2,869 Group: Global Mod Member #1,110 Joined: April 14, 2005	humbleego Sep 1 2005, 03:18 PM Yeah, that was mostly a retort to Noob, who is forever busting *everyone's* balls.� :lol: Edited for reality. :lol:



NOOB!	Sep 2 2005, 05:29 AM Post #2486
The Token Black Guy Posts: 3,141 Group: Brackenites Member #363 Joined: September 13, 2004	yeh so i give up with this thread.



humbleego	Sep 2 2005, 05:30 AM Post #2487
Adam's Illegitimate Son Posts: 3,996 Group: Global Mod Member #599 Joined: November 11, 2004	:lol: Oh, little Nubian. Don't be a baby. It's not like you to give up.



Anghenfil	Sep 2 2005, 05:31 AM Post #2488
PELICAAAAAN Posts: 2,869 Group: Global Mod Member #1,110 Joined: April 14, 2005	We looooooooove you.



mr.nurbs	Sep 2 2005, 06:55 AM Post #2489
Brackenwood greeter Posts: 4,039 Group: Global Mod Member #7 Joined: May 18, 2004	If I may step up at bat and ask about what is probably the best digital painting i've ever done...But i don't know if there's something wrong with it? Or is there some technique (shadows, lighting staging?) that i need work on. I know i can do better. I think...Anyways I drew this a little while ago hope you like. They're called 'Sky Watchers' and they protect the planet beneath them from whatever undesirables enter their atmosphere....



Psybola	Sep 2 2005, 07:17 AM Post #2490
Gone and never to return Posts: 1,192 Group: Brackenites Member #900 Joined: February 17, 2005	Very nice, I like the city far away in the distance



Comlock	Sep 2 2005, 07:31 AM Post #2491
These are my leafs: Posts: 2,923 Group: Moderator Member #484 Joined: October 6, 2004	I like it=) if I need to find something wrong...hmm Maby the city in the background needs to be more faded into the skycolour. The leftside of the wall has a strange shadow. it a very big contrast of shadow on the same side of the wall. the cloud shading looks a bit flat. I cant explain how to make them look more 3d. Im not good with clouds either. It just needs more volum in some kinda way.. but overall, its a nice pice



ElectricGnort	Sep 2 2005, 08:06 AM Post #2492
Sargeant Dubious Posts: 443 Group: Brackenites Member #276 Joined: September 2, 2004	Nurbs: Looks great as it is. I don't see anything that needs changing. (The Night Watcher looks alot like Bitey though :P) ------- Thanks for the feedback Anghenfil! I tend to be afraid of pushing hard with my pencil when shading out of fear of messing it up. Anyway, i here's another sketch with a bit more contrast and (i think) better anatomy. (kinda big)



humbleego	Sep 2 2005, 01:43 PM Post #2493
Adam's Illegitimate Son Posts: 3,996 Group: Global Mod Member #599 Joined: November 11, 2004	Comlock Sep 1 2005, 04:31 PM I like it=) if I need to find something wrong...hmm Maby the city in the background needs to be more faded into the skycolour. The leftside of the wall has a strange shadow. it a very big contrast of shadow on the same side of the wall. the cloud shading looks a bit flat. I cant explain how to make them look more 3d. Im not good with clouds either. It just needs more volum in some kinda way.. but overall, its a nice pice I'd make a critique, Nurbs, but I think Com hit everything! Good stuff though, bud. The mood in this piece is wonderful...



Anghenfil	Sep 2 2005, 02:11 PM Post #2494
PELICAAAAAN Posts: 2,869 Group: Global Mod Member #1,110 Joined: April 14, 2005	Hey Gnort, MUCH better than the other one. Much more definition and better proportions. Pretty good anatomy on the torso. Your torso and head are relatively well-rendered compared to the extremities. Your hands feel a tad flat -- with the arm in that position, his hand ought to be resting flat on his hip instead of angled side-on at the view. The legs are also have angle problems, especially the feet. Don't be afraid to put them in different perspectives. The legs are also too short; general rule is that length of legs = torso+neck+head. The jeans have some weird wrinkles in the middle that aren't necessary. Use some subtle shading to make them seem cloth-like. You should probably start looking at some other artist's graphite work. See how they're handling their shadows and technique. Can anyone else recommend a good source? Good job overall. [Edit] Not to ignore you Nurbs, your piece is great, but the others seem to have you covered.



Bussman	Sep 2 2005, 02:12 PM Post #2495
FLASH GENIUS (I wish...) Posts: 2,065 Group: Brackenites Member #913 Joined: February 22, 2005	Nurbsy, beautiful piece there, what program was that done in?



mr.nurbs	Sep 2 2005, 02:20 PM Post #2496
Brackenwood greeter Posts: 4,039 Group: Global Mod Member #7 Joined: May 18, 2004	I used Photoshop... Most of the technique that i used was from a custom brush i created that involves Color dynamics assigned to the pen tilt.



Bussman	Sep 2 2005, 02:27 PM Post #2497
FLASH GENIUS (I wish...) Posts: 2,065 Group: Brackenites Member #913 Joined: February 22, 2005	Heres something i wipped up real quick, i guess just playing around with shading a tad...



Colesif	Sep 2 2005, 02:47 PM Post #2498
Generally Uninterested. Posts: 2,528 Group: MotM Member #767 Joined: January 1, 2005	Hmm, it looks like you need to work on your light sources a bit, but who am i to talk on that subject :lol: but it seems like u just shaded in an O on the head of the mushroom and then just went from right to left on the stem. another thing you might wanna do is sketch what u want it to look like on a top layer and then paint underneath so it doesnt look to sloppy. (like the blotches where they shouldnt be) hope i helped.



Bussman	Sep 2 2005, 02:49 PM Post #2499
FLASH GENIUS (I wish...) Posts: 2,065 Group: Brackenites Member #913 Joined: February 22, 2005	yea you did, it was just like 48 seconds worth of working with Sketchbook Pro because i finally got it and i thought id just idk, post it...lol Thanks though man!



Master Rade	Sep 2 2005, 05:17 PM Post #2500
The Sexy Latino Supremeo Posts: 3,190 Group: Brackenites Member #1,063 Joined: April 5, 2005	My sketch Book has two days left. Today and the next. On a side note. I want to freaking battle some one! Well iam still working on my style. Its not so bad but I leave the crits up to you.



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