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| Daily Sketch Thread; wanna become the great artist? | |
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| Jemooky | Apr 14 2007, 09:52 AM Post #6876 |
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Katafisch, try drawing your hand without construction lines to start with. It's essential to know how the construction works, but first draw only what you see. If you concern yourself with rules too early, I don't think you'll ever get the hang of what hands actually look like. Maybe try a mix. Draw your hand as you see it, then analyze it for component parts. I don't know if that's the correct method, but it's what I'd recommend. And, naturally, since I'm a huge Zelda fanboy...  Edit: Sorry, the image is larger than I expected it to be. Let me know if you want it scaled down. |
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| Malakym | Apr 14 2007, 10:05 AM Post #6877 |
Black guy.
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Is this a WIP? The whole image just seems incomplete, unless you're going for a minimalist style, but it just looks like you spent very little time on it. It doesn't look bad in any way. It just looks like it could be so much greater with more time put into it. |
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| Jemooky | Apr 14 2007, 10:41 AM Post #6878 |
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It's not WIP, just a speed paint. I'll never work on it again, but I may do a different version. It's based on the original opening screen, which was very minimalistic itself. Thanks for your comments 
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| Anghenfil | Apr 14 2007, 11:13 AM Post #6879 |
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Jemook, use a bigger brush next time and make use of your alt key to mix and select tones. It looks a bit scratchy... gosh, can't think of a word, but your picture doesn't have the soft-but-gradient look of speedpaints by more advanced artists. The emphasis is on lighting and form rather than outlines, if you get me. Using the biggest brush you can will help you avoid being sketchy (like with your yellow highlights and moss(?). Color palette is okay, but your range of tone needs to be greatly expanded. Don't be a afraid to go dark. 
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| Jemooky | Apr 14 2007, 02:33 PM Post #6880 |
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Thanks a lot, your comments are really helpful.
Normally I wouldn't do that scratchy thing, but I've noticed Espen does it sometimes, and I was trying my hand at it. What kind of photoshop brush would you recommend using for speedpaintings? Right now I have a solid brush with a pressure variable on size. |
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| w00t | Apr 14 2007, 03:00 PM Post #6881 |
Brackenwoodian Barber
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G'day Y'all! A mere test of a style I haven't tried thus far.  The colours are too bright, but they are not the focus. The focus is.. I painted it in flash 8, with a small black paintbrush, then i did the fill colours, and then i deleted all of the black lines. I applied filters to the components to give them depth. It was a quick paint no longer than 15 minutes. I think it works well.. what do you think? Cheers |
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| Colesif | Apr 14 2007, 05:57 PM Post #6882 |
Generally Uninterested.
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got bored at 4:00 am in the morning
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| scarrabee | Apr 14 2007, 07:45 PM Post #6883 |
just another madman in the corner
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w00t: if I ignor the to bright collors then its nice but it still misses some texture Colesif: your cats are just alsays amazing (his tail is a little less good this time) |
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| Comlock | Apr 14 2007, 08:20 PM Post #6884 |
These are my leafs:
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 Colesif: I think the white thing around his neck (what is that called in english?) seems out of place on the character. In a way, that whole white thing points in a totaly differerent way compared to the body's "line of action"  ^^Im not good at drawing cat animals btw. This is more of a personal taste in style, but It should look more intresting if you had bigger contrasts on the strains of hair. example 1:mixing really big chunks of hair with smaller ones example 2: more or less the same size Jemooky: Like Ang said, use the ALT key (colourpicker) to blend colours\edit shapes\make new colours. I think it look like you didn't use that at all here?If you did'nt you might as well have painted this in macromedia flash and ended up with around the same result. And Espen uses that "scratchy thing" on certain areas of the image, but he is also not basing the whole painting on it. Im sure he use the ALT key in there as well Oh, and there's something with the glow on that waterfall.  ^^Im way out of paitingpractice, and my edit on the light for the waterfall sucks , but I hope you see what I mean =) w00t: I think the "deleting the black lines works well =) But next time, DON'T USE THOSE COLOURS EVER AGAIN! 
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| Colesif | Apr 15 2007, 02:05 AM Post #6885 |
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Ahhh thanks Com! Your definetly right, that actually is good to know for future refrence. That picture was actually kinda me just bs'n around I drew the head and mane (white thing  ) then got bored and threw a crappy body on and went to sleep.
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| Katatafisch | Apr 15 2007, 04:22 AM Post #6886 |
if you answer my riddle the esophagus will let you pass
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wow comlock, i really like the gesture...also the mane or what it is called looks well integrated in the body well i definately like the original cat nonetheless...and to jemooky i looove zelda too isnt that the opening screen of the very first part on the nes?!  |
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| HadOne2Many | Apr 15 2007, 05:13 AM Post #6887 |
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Great stuff. I can't really add any helpful comments to any of it but keep it up
Here's a Quick Speed Paint I did while having my coffee this morning. I just upgraded from Photoshop 7 to CS2 and have found a new love for the program. Anyway this was referenced from a picture in April 2007 National Geopraphic Magazine. I won't finish it, it was mainly an exercise in values. Any crits or suggestions are appreciated. 
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| Jemooky | Apr 15 2007, 08:10 AM Post #6888 |
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Is the technique on this speed paint any better?
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| w00t | Apr 16 2007, 10:48 PM Post #6889 |
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| -AnTiSeAl- | Apr 17 2007, 02:17 AM Post #6890 |
Limon lemime
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w00t- nice... in paint? Looks kinda like a egyptian cave-wall painting becuase pretty much everything in the picture is in profile, so he looks a tad akward. hadone2many- Thats pretty awesome! my only crit is to push the shadow on the left side. Jem- I'de say its a huge improvement, you've definatly worked on your graduation of colors and shadow alot more. My only crit is to define it a bit more so it isnt so blurry, and proportions look a bit off, like hes too stiff or skinny. (the tiny legs and abdomen clash with the beefy arms and pecs) good stuff guys! |
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| HadOne2Many | Apr 17 2007, 02:36 AM Post #6891 |
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Jemooky - I remember some of your speedpainting portraits and I thought they were great. Is this the same technique you used then or are you switching things up? Anyway I don't know jack about proper technique so I can't help. w00t - keep it up. It looks better than some of your other drawings. Plenty of room for improvement but your on the right track. -AnTiSeAl- Thanks for that, I could definitely have pushed it much further. I did make a second quick pass on the image after I posted in the other day, but it looked so similar I didn't post it. For anyone interested it is here Eagle 2nd pass Anyway here's another speed paint. Again photoreference was used but it was more an inspiration than a road map as I changed it up quite a bit and tried a monochromatic color scheme. I'm not happy with it but I learned a lot from it and that is what counts. 
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| Katatafisch | Apr 17 2007, 04:58 AM Post #6892 |
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wow, i like the scene, very good job, maybe you could have addet a shadow of the swimming guy/girl?! whatsoeva
 would be a nice effect, and in you image it would add some extra to that awesome pic...the plants are also very good, how long did you take for it? |
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| scarrabee | Apr 17 2007, 05:09 AM Post #6893 |
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I like the Eagle but you should try on working to hide your brush strokes (there verry clear in this img) the diver is also verry cool with the trees on the background enz |
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| Freedom88 | Apr 17 2007, 07:17 AM Post #6894 |
Brackenwood Lightweight
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On the contrary, I don't think you should try to hide your brush strokes. However, I think you should try to push your contrast more, don't be afraid to go slightly darker in the shadows, but I like the eagle
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| HadOne2Many | Apr 17 2007, 02:07 PM Post #6895 |
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Katatafisch - thanks, and you're right, there are a lot of little things I could do to improve this picture. I really like the idea for the picture, and the main colors work well in my eyes. I will probably do something similar to this in the future and will defintely use your sugeestions then. Oh and this was about 30 minutes,most of that time was spent playing with different brushes to find out what worked best for the plants. If you look closely you can still see some of the cheesy default grass brush strokes
scarrabee - thanks, I liked the eagle too . I'm with Freedom88 about the brush strokes though. I think they give a painting more character. This is just personal preference though, no right or wrong answer. If I was going for a photorealistic look or trying to make it look as if it were rendered by a computer I would try and hide them. Freedom88 - I really should have pushed it further. It looked pretty good on my laptop when I painted it, but when I got to work today and looked at it on another monitor with factory default settings it looked much brighter and kinda washed out. Another lesson learned. |
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| scarrabee | Apr 17 2007, 06:13 PM Post #6896 |
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ow I think I was a bit short in my words: I ment the brush stroke in everything als exept the eagle (those one I liked) (in the branches enz but anyway it could be just personal opinion) |
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| eriandor | Apr 18 2007, 02:16 AM Post #6897 |
Brackenwood Lightweight
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hey hadone2many, i really like the diver pick, but somehow it feels threatening, like something is gonna 'jump' out of the plants and attack the diver.Well anyways the pic gets me craving for more, like a story and i wanna know what happens next^^. Maybe you could try to paint a giant fishie lurking in some plants from another angle. What am i talking about....It's great^^ don't listen to me (oh and scarrabee i thought enz is dutch and etc is the english synonym) |
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| scarrabee | Apr 18 2007, 03:24 AM Post #6898 |
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ow idd your correct hey your also from gent back to topic: HadOne2Many: those plants under the diver are those reflections of trees or underwhaterplants? |
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| HadOne2Many | Apr 18 2007, 03:39 AM Post #6899 |
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eriandor - thanks, that is kinda what I was going for, only I wanted the bottom section to be much darker than what it is now. That way you wonder what vile monster is waiting for the unsuspecting diver. I may hint at something, perhaps a small highlight or two, maybe some soot is being disturbed by slight movement in the water but the actual creature is going to be left up to the viewers imagination. I played with the contrast and brightness and almost got the effect I was going for, but that isn't as satisfying as painting it myself. Like I said I really like the idea, I just executed it poorly. Consider this a color sketch, a rough draft of what I will eventually have. scarrabee - now I undertsand what you meant, and the plants are underwater.
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| Katatafisch | Apr 18 2007, 06:04 AM Post #6900 |
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if you answer my riddle the esophagus will let you pass
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heres one i did when i got bored at school...i know i messed the hand but i liked the pic somehow so i thought i upp it xD
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