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| jubjub | Jan 16 2006, 09:49 AM Post #926 |
I am not immature you Stinky PooPoo Head!
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Kick butt,it's like an alien landscape :lol: |
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| Villageidiot | Jan 16 2006, 10:12 AM Post #927 |
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GREAT colour choice!...though...the shading could use a little work...but other wise those colours are PERFECT!!!.... |
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| Bussman | Jan 16 2006, 10:12 AM Post #928 |
FLASH GENIUS (I wish...)
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Wow Kib! You need to compile a PDF and i will donwload it and print it out at school!!! Do it !! Do it now!! |
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| Anghenfil | Jan 17 2006, 03:46 PM Post #929 |
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Okay Kiddies, I need help with my design stuff.  So, here we have a sperm/parrot fish/chickadee type critter and a fat, coked-out dragon/frog. Happy, aren't they? I'm likely to be animating these or a derrivative of them, so any major problems need to be caught as soon as possible. Once they pass this stage, I'll be doing colors and turnarounds for them. 1) Do the designs "work"? Are they appealing? Are there any really ambiguous areas? 2) Do they work together? I should have done a size comparison, but the spermy critter could comfortably fit into the dragon's eye when curled up. Do they look like they belong in the same world? 3) Out of all the sketches I've done, which are particularly interesting and why? What features work best? What parts work less well? Anything you might change or develop more? Thanks guys. 
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| jubjub | Jan 18 2006, 02:26 AM Post #930 |
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I like em both Anghenfil.The only thing that stood out to me were the feet on the parrot-fish that seems a little underdeveloped.I'm guessing you wantd to make them look like something inbetween fish fins and feet.But right now they're just stubbs.The rest though is just completely awesome,i was drooling over your final wing design,hehe.I'd be curious to see how it moves and walks.I can really see alot of character in it. The cool old opium frog character is very cool too.Obviously at glance looking not very mobile.I'd be curious to see how these characters fit into whatever you're planning  .I can't really see anything wrong with it myself.I'm sure surroundings would give an accurate feeling of both of thier size.The frog looks like a character you'd see in a somewhat dark dramatic place,always with a large billowing of smoke from him.It's hard to say really about the design of the frog guy because i don't really know his role,but his looks do portray alot of personality.
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| Anghenfil | Jan 18 2006, 02:38 AM Post #931 |
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Fair enough, but they are just supposed to be just fins. This character never lands or walks; it kinda just floats. They correspond to the pelvic fins on fishes.  But point taken; I'll give them more of a textured form like the wings. The frog guy's just supposed to waddle, hence the tiny feeties. Think 90-year-old fat man. :lol: I've been having trouble making him look old because his jowls are fighting for space with his shoulders and ears, plus balancing the age factor with his inherit whimsy. He just doesn't look quite right to me yet. 
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| jubjub | Jan 18 2006, 02:58 AM Post #932 |
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Ok,sorry i didn't mean tosound like an insult about the feet,hehe.I see now,yeah all then they would need is maybe a little texture really to me.Sorry again. The frog guy might look older if maybe you created some wrinkle lines from the chin/bottom lip area.I think keeping the idea,i dunno if intentional or not of the eyes being somewhat milky looking gives a look of age like in #3.Other than maybe excentuating(sp?) the existing wrinkles maybe adding some sort or worn effect to areas of him like liverspots or scars(scars always hold interesting tales to them) or,i'm gonna butch the spelling here..vericose veins maybe.Maybe i gave you some ideas,you're alot better at this than me,but maybe i mentioned something that you might have forgot to try  .
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| Anghenfil | Jan 18 2006, 03:03 AM Post #933 |
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:rolleyes: Oh please. If I wasn't prepared for an honest criticism, I wouldn't have put my work up. Usually my peers at school give me bullshit "OMG, that's awesum!" or "That looks really wrong. I don't know why" feedback. I want to just kick them all in the nuts sometimes, so never be afraid to tell me stuff about my work. Don't apologize, for it is a gift. Good ideas on age/liver spots. I'll probably put down some warts or something too. Thanks for all your help, jubs. |
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| jubjub | Jan 18 2006, 03:51 AM Post #934 |
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I am not immature you Stinky PooPoo Head!
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WooHoo! *does a lil' monkey victory dance* i actually helped someone in some way here :rolleyes: . Out of curiousity is this for an awesome flash project?I like everybody's flash projects but they end up having to sacrifice a lot of thier details and stuff to make em work.If it is for one,i'd love to see the storyboards or whatever after you're all done and all that,I'd enjoy that maybe even more than the moving thing 
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| Anghenfil | Jan 18 2006, 04:00 AM Post #935 |
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Nope, this will be 3D. Maya, actually. If I learn bump mapping in time, most of the details should stay intact.
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| Alistair | Jan 18 2006, 04:10 AM Post #936 |
Down is the new Up.
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wow i really like those Frogy things i think no. 3 is definatly the best
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| Bussman | Jan 18 2006, 04:29 AM Post #937 |
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Wow Ri, that flying creature of yours is by far the most appealing. It gives off a very 'cute' feel, which i think is mostly influenced by the eyes, and body size/structure, well basically, the creature in whole is very appealing. Man, i wish I could draw originally w/o any references, but, im just not at that point yet |
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| jubjub | Jan 18 2006, 04:47 AM Post #938 |
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I am not immature you Stinky PooPoo Head!
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That's awesome news!Sorry i had to tell a few people here was thier response: ----------------HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!----------------------  Oh yea,and it appears that you've become quite the popular person.word spread quickly it seems as your recent project has quite a cult following as you can see none other than her majesty Queen Elizabeth the second here drawing some fan art of your project.  I just recently had the honor of speaking to her and she said and i quote ''That Anghenfil is the Shizzle!''So, in conclusion....no pressure,hehe :lol: |
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| humbleego | Jan 18 2006, 04:52 AM Post #939 |
Adam's Illegitimate Son
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Can't go too in depth, but I'll try to brush over somethings I've spot off hand. I really dig the spermy guy, it's a nice combination of things and they all complement each other well. Very original. The dragon-toad feels a little lacking IMO, compared to the sperm and your other work. He's a little too "typical". Unfortunately, I've not any suggestions of worth. Technically, I see a few possible "big work" areas with the toad if you're going 3D. For one his legs don't seem thought out. His rigging in that area will be fun, especially how compress his belly is up against them. You might move them to the back and sides of his body, more like a chinese dragon. Then he could put his weight on his belly, but have more movement in the legs. But, it depends on what he'll be doing. If he needs to walk, you'll really want to put more thought into that area. If he's like Jabba and mostly stationary, what you have might not be a problem. Also, although his hands are very pleasing to me, the bulbous ends of his fingers will be trouble if he needs to make a fist or grab that pipe tightly. I've done a few characters with similar fingers and it always is very limiting to animate and have look right. But, that said, I think they fit the character very well. You might just change the shape of the pipe to be more bulky in the area he'd hold it and have him just grip it with those thick pads of his. If I get a sec, I'll rough something up to explain myself better. |
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| Comlock | Jan 18 2006, 05:03 AM Post #940 |
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great characters! I love them both I made a littel fan art, with small changes^^ But since this is gonna be 3d, my "baggy" frog body on top wouldent be a good idea anyway I guess. I dont realy have much to critizise at the moment..  
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| Anghenfil | Jan 18 2006, 05:04 AM Post #941 |
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Ahhh... I was planning to blendshape his tummy up a bit when he needs to pop his feet out, but it's good to think about early on. I'll do a quick test before I commit that to modeling. As for the finger pads, If he holds the pipe like a pen (pad of the thumb and lateral side of the index, or pad-thumb to pad-index as in the first sketch), it seems like the fingers wouldn't fight too much. Or would they? You have more experience with this than me. I'll experiment with making the pipe fatter. Why is the toad guy feeling lacking to you? That's actually quite the opposite reaction it got from my teachers. Anything specific or just the concept (ie, old frog thingy)? God bless you for thinking about the technical difficulties of this character. You're my hero.  Edit: Love the fan art, Arthur! :lol: Spermy looks like ET's asexual love child now. |
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| humbleego | Jan 18 2006, 05:07 AM Post #942 |
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Adam's Illegitimate Son
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Quick sketch:
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| Anghenfil | Jan 18 2006, 05:13 AM Post #943 |
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Wow, AWESOME pipe suggestion, I love that immensely! I'll probably end up using it. :lol: The legs aren't too shabby either. If I get time today, I'll do a sketch of him with the legs on the sides. |
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| humbleego | Jan 18 2006, 05:41 AM Post #944 |
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I think it's the just general idea. Your other creature is a blend of like three influences, creating a very unique looking creature. I suppose perhaps the fat toad/lizard guy feels a bit generic. It lacks your usual flair. One think I've always enjoyed about your creatures is the other worldliness of them. They usually seem very specifically "you". This creature to me, seems like I'd see him in a D&D bestiary. Hope, I'm not being too harsh here. Perhaps toad/frog and dragon are just a bit too similar. If he's an old grouch, perhaps a toad/crab, toad/beetle, or something rotund, but thorny. Your other creature combines very unlike creatures in a very successful way. I'm sorry I can't get my finger on it better than that.
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| Alistair | Jan 18 2006, 05:41 AM Post #945 |
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wow that pipe looks good i really cant wait to see the sketch (nice character) |
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| Anghenfil | Jan 18 2006, 05:55 AM Post #946 |
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Nah, it's okay. At least you're being honest with me, which is what counts.
I'll try another sketch soon with your suggestions.
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| humbleego | Jan 18 2006, 05:56 AM Post #947 |
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Perhaps you should just run with it. I appear to be the minority here.
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| Anghenfil | Jan 18 2006, 06:01 AM Post #948 |
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Can't hurt to try. Frankly, your opinion almost matters more to me than my design teacher's, so the majority can go sodomize itself.
If nothing productive comes for the next round of sketches, I'll just go with what I have. I'm starting pretty early on this project so I have a little flexibility there.
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| humbleego | Jan 18 2006, 11:34 AM Post #949 |
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Well, as usual, Ang, you've provoked me enough to meddle with your shit. I started thinking about a toad/crab/beetle sorta thing and this popped out: I went coo-coo with the colors, much too bright and festive for a sour grape like him and quite frankly I missed the mark completely everywhere else too. But, I liked the image a bit too much itself not to share my failure. Oh well, you'll come up with a better solution anyway, I just had to have some fun though! Back to work! 
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| humbleego | Jan 18 2006, 12:09 PM Post #950 |
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Well, I like the way it looks, it's just not Ang's character. But, thanks.
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