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| Malakym | Apr 16 2006, 12:34 PM Post #1501 |
Black guy.
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finished the image. trying to figure out which style to go with. lines, colored lines, or no lines?   im actually dissapointed in the lighting. it's kind of unflattering. |
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| Zwickel | Apr 16 2006, 01:26 PM Post #1502 |
Brackenwood Heavyweight
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I don't know, they all look nice jugglez, hey comlock, how do you set up too screens to work like one? |
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| ElectricGnort | Apr 16 2006, 02:09 PM Post #1503 |
Sargeant Dubious
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Mmm, I like the first one, with lineart, the most. Though the third one looks pretty cool too. I'm not sure what to say about the shadows. On one hand I want to say to add more contrast between the midtone and the shadows, but on the other I also like the soft shading on it...  Meh, your call. |
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| Anghenfil | Apr 16 2006, 04:03 PM Post #1504 |
PELICAAAAAN
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Hey Mal, I like the middle one best. The problem with your shading is that you're barely pushing it at all. Be adventurous! Hopefully Comlock will stop in and set you straight.
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| Thanatos | Apr 16 2006, 04:30 PM Post #1505 |
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Hey mal, I'd go with the middle one, but remove the lines on the face. |
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| Comlock | Apr 16 2006, 05:28 PM Post #1506 |
These are my leafs:
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Jaah, like Ang said.. I think you should go for more contrast in the shadows. It very close to the base colour right now. You can also try to use coloured shadow/light. I used a yellow colour for the lightsource here Here's a quick rough example: 1 2 3 4  The end result doesent necessarily have to be the best. I kinda like the "shadow, stage one look" =) |
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| Zwickel | Apr 16 2006, 05:54 PM Post #1507 |
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I like the shadow stage 2 + h one. |
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| Rubberhead | Apr 16 2006, 08:33 PM Post #1508 |
Fatscat Kittycat
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Looking at Mark's Misfit thread yesterday I got wondering about ways how to create convincing explosions in Photoshop. I ended up with this so far  Now it's a good start but I think it's too clean and crisp to be really convincing, it looks too CG. I learned an interesting technique on how to get that inner structure tough. I'm gonna try some more, If anyone wants to join I'dd be glad to elaborate some techniques. |
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| KiWi | Apr 16 2006, 11:08 PM Post #1509 |
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Comlock what do you mean lineant color, and where would you apply it? |
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| NOOB! | Apr 16 2006, 11:25 PM Post #1510 |
The Token Black Guy
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com are u still goin to animation school??? was it this year?? |
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| Bussman | Apr 16 2006, 11:28 PM Post #1511 |
FLASH GENIUS (I wish...)
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Mally, do u mind like showing/explaining how u took your sketch (was it traditional) and then digitally importing it, and then to which program that you got such crisp lines and clean colors? thanks, and the middle one of the 3 is my fav also, and like tim said it would be the BEST if the lines around the head/face were taken out but leaving the other body lines |
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| Comlock | Apr 16 2006, 11:40 PM Post #1512 |
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These are my leafs:
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It just means im colouring the black lines in the drawing. Old videot tutorial
Oh no, Not this year.When my contract at the factory runs out, im going to demark after summer for a 5 month intensive drawing school. Then I'll apply for the animationschool next year. 2007 |
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| Malakym | Apr 16 2006, 11:43 PM Post #1513 |
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Black guy.
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damn it comlock, are you trying to make me slit my wrists? i work on that for a few hours and you pull up a far better version in probably no more than 45 minutes! 
yeah, i'll try to do something like that. the shadow layers are on a really low opacity, so i'll bump it up and make some clothing folds. i'll also rid the face of lineart to colby: that was a traditional sketch, scanned in through a shitty scanner, placed under autocontrast, and colored in photoshop. which im reeking the disadvantages of, now. the lineart is on a white plane, so any background i make will be faded or without lines. it was done with a photo ref. |
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| chisem | Apr 16 2006, 11:52 PM Post #1514 |
Matt the AniMATTor
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is that ya voice comlock its pretty rad
:lol: . I was also wondering if you could make any video flash tutorials. |
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| kib | Apr 17 2006, 02:54 PM Post #1515 |
Brackenwood Heavyweight
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Okay, coloured it. Digital painting is still pretty new to me, especially portrait stuff. I didn't want to turn this into photo-real, but I just don't have the medium down yet. For every stroke there was this sort of phantom of the missing bristles-paint-canvas tactile sensation that was conspicuously absent. I've got to figure out custom brushes and loosen up a lot. This kind of plastic look is not what moves me... Anyway, it's still early days!  Thanks for the tip on DrawingBoard, Comlock and HE. kib |
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| humbleego | Apr 17 2006, 04:02 PM Post #1516 |
Adam's Illegitimate Son
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Good start, Kibbo! Structure looks pretty solid. Just falls a bit sort in the rendering. If you'll forgive me, I did a quick paint over:  Click for Higher Res I'm not sure what style you're aiming at, but since it most closely approaches painterly, I'll assume that. The biggest problem I found was stroke economy. You'rr working too hard, ol boy! Scale that brush up and block in things and gradually work down to a smaller brush size. This helps you do two things:
Another thing I noticed is a gratuitous rim/reflected light around the edges such as under her chin. We often use this to pop an object from the background, but in this case it often echanced the flat appearance. I often over use it myself, but it's best in moderation. Lastly, her hair. I didn't give it as much love as her skin, but you see where I'm going: don't paint every individual hair. Treat them as locks or clumps, build them up and then add a few single hair details to sell the look. When you paint all individual hairs, it again flattens things and tend to give it a bird's nest look as oppsed to a just styled look. Hope this helps. Great drapery, as usual! 
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| kib | Apr 17 2006, 04:21 PM Post #1517 |
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Thanks, HE. I really appreciate the time you took with the visuals and the comments. I really do need to get used to using larger brushes, and I like what you did with the hair. I got a bit carried away with the single strands, although there's a liveliness to them that I like. I think it would benefit from less single strands, as you say, and a middle ground treatment to suggest rather than define. Did you bring down the warm colours in her cheeks on purpose? I find her skin a bit grey without them, somewhat monotone, esp. with that blue dress. As you guessed, I had hoped to maintain a bit more of a painterly look. I have a long way to go with this, but I do prefer to see brush strokes in large areas, especially away from the main focus. I often find the predominant brush techniques in digital painting makes things too "creamy", especially skin. There's a difference though, between over-smoothing and developing translucency. I still believe oils and glazes are the best for skin, and haven't seen a really satisfactory virtual approximation yet. Thanks again, HE. kib |
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| humbleego | Apr 17 2006, 04:44 PM Post #1518 |
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Adam's Illegitimate Son
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Truthfully I focused more on rounding out the cheeks than the color of them. That left area of flat reddish color specifically. It's a difficult balance, because in the reference that red dress adds so much warmth to the piece. I suppose what's needed to to nab a bit of that transition color on the hand and warm the face up a bit. Her hair color doesn't help either. It's sort of a wierd frosty thing going on, which to me cools things off too. Perhaps that's why they put her in that blood red dress. 
You should get Painter. While it's not the real thing, it's about as close as you'll get. Also, I've found that hardcore traditional guys can get convincing oils and glazes with it. I myself am not as traditionally trained as them. I was mostly an acrylic boy who only dabbled in Oils. |
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| chisem | Apr 17 2006, 07:43 PM Post #1519 |
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Matt the AniMATTor
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i like both purple and the red dresses shes in. Ok which looks better taller  or smaller 
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| C0mBineD | Apr 17 2006, 08:25 PM Post #1520 |
my name is written with a zero not an o
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smaller
try to do one in the middle of both heights maybe that's even better
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| chisem | Apr 17 2006, 08:32 PM Post #1521 |
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Matt the AniMATTor
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hmmmmm im trying but it still looks the same as one of those 2 above. |
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| Anghenfil | Apr 18 2006, 01:52 AM Post #1522 |
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PELICAAAAAN
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I pick whichever one has a funny hat. |
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| kib | Apr 18 2006, 04:57 AM Post #1523 |
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You say it's your birthday? Well it's my birthday too. :lol: kib |
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| Zwickel | Apr 18 2006, 09:06 AM Post #1524 |
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Happy Birthday kib!!!! (really?) I like the smaller one. Nice paint over, humble 
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| kib | Apr 18 2006, 10:40 AM Post #1525 |
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Thank you, Zwickel, but no, it's not. I was referring to Anghenfil's lovely but under-appreciated character tweak. kib |
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