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| Philosophies And Theroies; I seriously need a life | |
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| Sigfried | Nov 24 2005, 12:01 PM Post #101 |
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| Darkside | Nov 25 2005, 12:37 AM Post #102 |
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Amen to that (no pun intended) However, do to the fact that the basic idea of the religion might change to much over time. Eventually, it could be beleive that Jesus and Buddha were crime-fighting iguana out to save the world from "the Piemaster" (cue evil "duhn duh du-nah) Maybe a little too far, but you get my idea Perhaps a framework book, to give only the most necessary and basic of the beleifs, and let it go from there. At least then religion will become more versitile, more accepting, and up to less discrimination. Just a thought |
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| Foster | Nov 25 2005, 05:31 AM Post #103 |
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Not necessarily. It's good in theory to write things down, but you have to remember that not everybody can read, that reading wasn't common in the population until the last few decades. With a verbal tradition, everybody knows the storys, and they can't change with one person's view. That way the tradition is created by the entire people, not just one dusty old man writing in a cave. Anyway, my main point is that when you write down your tradition, it becomes permanent and unmoveable, and so when the people change (as all peoples invariably do), they are stuck with a tradition that no longer fits. This causes some individuals to become disillusioned with their beliefs, because it isn't part of who they are anymore. On top of that, with verbal traditions, differences of opinion and tradition are more tolerated. |
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| blackberryjack | Nov 28 2005, 01:20 PM Post #104 |
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GAH religion, bah people who worship a carpenter who lived 2000 years ago? what in the world are they thinking, he wanted us all to prase God, not him, he says so in the bible. besides the bible is just a bunch a storys, actually ther pretty cool storys, come on a man can walk on water? thated be cool if everybody can do that, then thered be no need of boats. Anyways the bible shows you a good way of life that is timed tested and true, it's like a off spin of the Koran, a way to live the way of life is to love. I have meet, seen and heard, people and preasts openly use and fulsify the bible to there own benifit, what even more desgusting is that these people were eating it up. He was mostly ranting about the "white race is God's only choosen race" Ha I openly laughed at him, only to be chased down by his followers like an animal. I also leart that i'm a genosidal surviver, I'm proud to pronouce it that I'm Native American, I was treated like a king on my trip to Isreal, even some cabbies gave me free rides, heck I was escorted to my plane from the resceptionst by armed securty, when I asked them why they told me they wanted to honor a surviver of the worst genoside in the history of man kind. At first I was sketchey about going there, couse of the war going on there, and now I so want to go back there. |
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| Foster | Nov 28 2005, 04:57 PM Post #105 |
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I think I believe Jesus walked on water, but then I'm Canadian, so I figure it was probably winter. Yes, most people don't realise that the Natives were nearly wiped out. It's barely touched in Canadian high school history classes, and probably not even thought of in any American school. They're too busy worrying about which president did what, and the dates of their various wars. Not only was most of the native population of the Americas killed outright, but the survivors were indoctrinated and their cultural identity systematically destroyed. Pretty disgusting what has been done so recently, eh? And all sanctioned and even encouraged by our much-touted democratic government. At least Hitler and the Nazis are remembered as evil, but not the American government that allowed cultural genocide? [/rant] But anyway, all those guys who proclaim white supremacy and march through neighborhoods are retards. You know those white sheets they wear? Notice the yellow stains? Yeah. Those robes are bedsheets. Don't worry about those guys. |
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| blackberryjack | Nov 28 2005, 06:51 PM Post #106 |
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Oh ya I forgot to mention that they try to cover up the yellow *
* stained bed sheets*
* with yellow badges *
* to make it seem like *
* a higher ranking Gah HA HA HA
:lol:
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| Sigfried | Nov 29 2005, 01:05 AM Post #107 |
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bah, i hate those white supremasist, at least there is none of them here
but they use our symbols, and they dont even know what they mean :angry: |
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| Darkside | Nov 29 2005, 05:21 AM Post #108 |
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Which brings up a point that the bible makes...we were made in God's image. Since no one knows what color God is, those Aryans And Neo-Nazis and whatever cant say crap. We can only assume that we were made in God's silloette. For all we know God could be Papa Smurf! |
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| Foster | Nov 29 2005, 09:10 AM Post #109 |
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That whole thought that we were made in God's image is retarded. At least in the literal sense. If God's such a good creator, why would he make his chosen species so flawed? I mean, come on, wisdom teeth? They're useless! All they do is cause us pain! And what about the appendix? And pinky toes? And male nipples! They don't do anything! ...yeah. And the fact that good pagan symbols are used by these retarded useless sacks of crap, REALLY pisses me off. Swastika's used to be a symbol of peace, but now the symbol has been corrupted. And all those supposedly 'satanic' symbols, all of which are related with good, not evil. This really gets me: the Christian symbol is an instrument of torture and death. How the hell does that make sense to people? Crucifixes are inherently bad, and yet they're used as a symbol of peace and life. It's like the whole world has gone symbolically backward. <_< |
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| rdempstar | Nov 29 2005, 11:40 AM Post #110 |
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The crucifix is now a symbol of peace and life because Christ died on a cross to save the human race from eternal damnation. Some people don't realize that and wear them anyway, in which I would say they may as well wear an electric chair around their necks. |
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| Foster | Nov 29 2005, 12:03 PM Post #111 |
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Kinda makes you wonder: if the Romans preferred to hang their prisoners, would people wear nooses? Or if they liked beheadings, would everybody wear axes?
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| blackberryjack | Nov 29 2005, 03:26 PM Post #112 |
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actully the real symbol for christenaity is a fish, it was used for 200 years after Jesus murder. |
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| rdempstar | Nov 29 2005, 03:39 PM Post #113 |
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Blackberry you never ceace to amaze me. You're right to a certain degree. The fish is an accepted symbol. But how often do you see a huge fish on the alter of a church and how often do you see a large cross on the alter. |
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| Foster | Nov 30 2005, 03:46 AM Post #114 |
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I figured the fish was just a new thing for crazy bastards to put on their bumpers...Why a fish? I realise Jesus was a fisherman at some point, but a fish? That's a smelly symbol...
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| rdempstar | Nov 30 2005, 04:26 AM Post #115 |
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Jesus was a carpenter not a fisherman. It was his apostles that were fishermen. The symbol of a fish probably has something to do with what Jesus said "Come with me and I will make you fishers of men." |
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| Whim | Nov 30 2005, 06:59 AM Post #116 |
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Humans beget humans. Humans create statues that resemble humans, but can never live or breathe like a human. In a similar way, God creates humans. We resemble him in some way, but we are not of the same kind. It's 1700. By the age of 20 you've lost all your teeth to rotting. I would appreciate wisdom teeth then. And why can't God be creative? Does everything have to be ultra-functional? Any artist can tell you "no."
The fish is probably derived from the "fishers of men" scripture, but its creation, I think, occurred when Christians were being killed and persecuted. If you were a Christian in some countries, you and your family would be killed. But some Christians were so strong in their belief that they made up a secret symbol to organize underground churches. They would draw part of the fish, and another person would draw the tail end of it, signifying that the meeting was on. At least, that's what I've heard. |
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| Sigfried | Nov 30 2005, 10:49 AM Post #117 |
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wisdom teeth??, very simple....evolution baby!!!
when i used to wear my hammer, people thought that it was a downside cross, it pissed me off to no end, not to point it out, but because they related it to christianity :angry: and funny thing about the swastika there, for us its a symbol of war, calling out the thunder god
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| Foster | Nov 30 2005, 04:29 PM Post #118 |
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Of course it's evolution. But don't try to tell that to a creationist. They might beat on you with crucifix or a huge fish. I would actually like to get a hammer to wear around my neck. Mjollnir is a powerful symbol. I can't see how someone would mistake it for a cross, though... Interesting fact: Archeologists have found molds for casting metal with hammers and crosses in the same mold. Funny to think that both Christian and Pagan symbols were cast from the same mold, eh? Actually, that's probably where Christians got the practise of hanging a symbol around their necks, as with many other traditions. |
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| Sigfried | Dec 1 2005, 04:57 AM Post #119 |
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i already knew that, they were from a time period called "the dual faith age", it was the age of the first comings of christianity, our people didnt care about it too much and they allowed christianity, until the kings and warchiefs were converted and subdued to the vatican, after the reconversion from arrianism, and thus the downfall begun after that bringing forth the dark age |
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| Darkside | Dec 1 2005, 05:40 AM Post #120 |
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Sigfreid is right...the appendix was used to digest raw meat during the early man ages, pinky toes provide balance, and men can still breast-feed with there nipples...lol male breast feeding. Wisdom teeth were used when our jaw stuck out like 6 freakin inches cuz otherwise we wouldnt be able to chew back there.
People are retards The cross became the Cristian "icon" as sort of a silent protest, as well as a symbol of the great deeds their messiah did. Its sorta like during the civil war period, when one of the political groups (forogt which one) were referred to as "Copperheads" (like the snake) and they started using the American penny as their symbol...not exactly the same but theres some similarties. |
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| Sigfried | Dec 1 2005, 05:44 AM Post #121 |
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mmm, we also have to wear the Suncross, the Valknot, the Triskellion, the Helm of Awe, the Troll Cross...you name it :rolleyes: |
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| Darkside | Dec 1 2005, 05:59 AM Post #122 |
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What are all of those? |
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| Sigfried | Dec 1 2005, 06:03 AM Post #123 |
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the symbols of my brethren |
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