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| folville | Apr 12 2007, 10:28 AM Post #351 |
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Thanks, mate! Not that it all comes down to equipment, but once I pick up a 300 f/2.8, extensions tubes and 2x teleconverter I'll really be able to get some bird shots! |
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| ketchupface | Apr 12 2007, 02:06 PM Post #352 |
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Or be a spotter for a sniper X-D I want to get some extension tubes for my Bronica (aka Scuba Cam) to help feed my texture lust (see above) with some super macro shots. It's a shame new toys cost money, though. |
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| folville | Apr 13 2007, 12:43 PM Post #353 |
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I'd kill for a nice medium or large format camera. Hell, I'd even take a Hasselblad with a digital back if I had to.. (
). Your fantastic textures have always amazed me though. Seeing them reminds me of Stephen Wilkes and his work on Ellis Island; if you're not familiar with his work, I'm sure you'd love it. As for buying a extension tubes, well, just be glad you're not dishing out for a new macro lens altogether. Which may or may not eventually end up happening anyway when you decide 1:1 macros aren't enough. |
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| ketchupface | Apr 13 2007, 02:27 PM Post #354 |
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I actually got my SQA with everything ready to shoot on Ebay for little more than 300. Photo snobs like to bash Bronica purely for the fact that they're more affordable, but truth be told Bronicas are more user-friendly and less tempermental than Hasselblads. Might be worth checking out if you, like me, are an enthusiast who wants a m format but doesn't want to spend gobs of money for a name. I checked out Stephen Wilkes....you're right, some awesome stuff on there, particularly the macro of the peeling blue paint with the light switch. Reminds me of JL Oliver, who does just remarkable work with abandonments. I'm pretty sure Oliver is an enthusiast, but meters & shoots like a pro. Hopefully when I can afford an actual spot meter (meter with my 35mm right now, which is a total pain in the ass) I'll be able to get to that level of awesomeness . |
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| Colesif | Apr 13 2007, 02:36 PM Post #355 |
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Generally Uninterested.
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For taking photographs, do you suggest traditional photography or digital? And I would like to know why you picked your answer. (this is a question for any seasoned photographer btw) |
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| folville | Apr 14 2007, 12:12 PM Post #356 |
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Awesome gallery, KF; I absolutely love the details and the rustic feel. I know what you mean about metering; even with an accurate on-camera meter it can be a bitch. I once tried to shoot with an old Rebel T2 that had a broken meter, so I had to meter with my 30D and try to base my settings for the T2 off that. It was not fun.
If you want to really extract fine, fine details like KF or the photos in the link he provided, a good film camera will probably almost be necessary. The larger the film is, the better off you'll be (i.e. medium or large format). If you plan to spend a decent sum of money and want convenience, digital is the only way to go, but I would be wary of doing this unless you were buying a dslr. The thing to realize is that the camera buying decision is really based more upon the lens lineup than upon the body itself. Over time, the camera system-dedicated accessories (flashes, batteries, etc) will far offset the initial cost of the body. It'd be easier to make a recommendation based upon your shooting needs, so what do you shoot? Sports, nature, architecture, abandoned houses, people? |
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| ketchupface | Apr 18 2007, 02:55 PM Post #357 |
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As folville stated, it's all in what you would like to do with your photos, but for the most part, I can't preach film enough, and here's why: In my opinion, if photography interests you & it's something that you can see yourself spending a lot of time doing, you want to learn the basics without all the garbage that digital throws in your face. This is the stubborn curmudgeon in me, but it's the same idea that if you were to learn how to paint, should you buy acrylics/oils or Photoshop? With film, you limit your variables (aperture, shutter speed, film speed...filters later on, etc) & it makes it easier to differentiate how changing one setting affects your final image. Once you get a feel for how each setting effects everything, then you can start to control what you're doing & get desirable results. With digital, there is so much that's done for you automatically that it takes a lot of that thinking out of the process, and therefore the learning. Most people say that the convenience of digital is an advantage, but I whole-heartedly disagree. If you can preview what you shoot, say, "Oh that's no good," delete, and take another within 5 seconds, where's the incentive to take your time, line up your shot, & truly analyze what you're doing? Films -forces- you to pick apart every last detail of your process & fine tune it through analysis & experience. In return, it'll make you a truly better photographer. I'm no pro by any stretch but film has taught me to be able to look at my own & other's photos and know what could have been done better & -how- it could have been improved. Starting out, I would maybe get a shot or two out of an entire roll that I found satisfactory. Now, I generally get between 50-75% of the roll to come out looking good. That's progress you can chart. Third, I love the trips to the photo lab. It honestly makes my day when I pick up my stuff, even if the shots turned out less than what I expected: with film, you don't know what you have until you have it, so it's like a visual Christmas every roll you get developed . You don't get that with digital...just cold, dead convenience. Last, with digital there are no happy accidents. If you scroll up, I posted a triple-exposed photo that's already one of my favorite photos I've ever taken- and it was conceived purely by accident. I honestly can't put a price on happy accidents. As you probably know with animation or drawing, Colesif, they have a very unique feeling of reward & promise of something new ahead. Pros for digital? Probably a cheaper investment in the long-term. You also don't have to make trips to the developing lab (pro film labs are disappearing left and right :\) or buy film. Film photographers can't be afraid to burn through film to get good results (on abandoned place photo safaris, I'll often burn through 2-3 a day, and that's taking my time!), so the film cost adds up after a while. Convenience....blah blah. Summary: Go film if you want to learn. Go digital if you want convenience. *closing can of worms/ending rant* = Latest roll from the same St. Louis trip, most of which were underexposed, but a few good ones managed to come out: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() -Film Reverend KF |
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| HadOne2Many | Apr 18 2007, 03:07 PM Post #358 |
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Awesome pictures. The lighting on the last 2 is very nice, and the others are overflowing with character and interesting textures. I see what you mean about the thought process when using film. Photography is definitely a very intricate art. Do you mind if I snag a couple of them for reference? |
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| C0mBineD | Apr 18 2007, 06:00 PM Post #359 |
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my name is written with a zero not an o
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oke here is my collarbone yay it's a normal photograph.. I will get the x-rays later ;_; I'm forced too http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/53423471/ enjoy and comment maybe PS: I know I have many birthmarks
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| psychomunkey3 | Apr 19 2007, 10:48 AM Post #360 |
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Ah. How'd you break it? (i have a feeling you had posted a thread about this...i just cant remember what you did) It does suck how when the collar bone breaks, you get that lump for life. One of our patients collar bone bump is HUGE! |
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| folville | Apr 19 2007, 11:34 AM Post #361 |
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I really like number one from the new series, KF. Even though I'm not a huge fan of shots that are tilted off the axis, I'd say that it's pretty nice. I think your argument for film is pretty logical, but I would like to make one addition, and that is to research all the major manufacturers and determine which one has a decent line of digital bodies to look into for the future. That way, Colesif could buy a cheapish film body and decent lenses without worrying about having to discard them when he surely learns the advantages of digital later. That said, here's a self-portrait. C'est Moi!
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| YuYulsd | Apr 19 2007, 11:48 AM Post #362 |
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Pictures from my New York trip http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d163/Whi...ne/IMG_0511.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d163/Whi...ne/IMG_0505.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d163/Whi...ne/IMG_0501.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d163/Whi...ne/IMG_0488.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d163/Whi...ne/IMG_0486.jpg yeah, I took a bunch of cloud shots *I'm no profesional, so be nice please
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| Pillow | Apr 19 2007, 09:55 PM Post #363 |
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Nice shots, shame you didn't have a tripod for the first picture (damn you slow shutter speed you ruin all night shots!). Last time I did a night shot I used a rock as a tripod and it still didn't work
:lol: The shots look really good so just keep capturing what ever gets your attention! folville: good pose, outfit and the black and white works cOmBineD: ouch, could have been worse though |
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| C0mBineD | Apr 19 2007, 10:54 PM Post #364 |
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yeah I know!!! I know a 2 guys who have a huge bump there mine was luckely bend inwards so you dont see much of it now
I broke it while falling from my bike D: @yuyulsd: I love the 4th pic!! @pillow: yeah it did hurted.. it's been 5 weeks now.. I really should get those x-rays posted in huh
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| RKTuneKitty | Apr 20 2007, 06:17 AM Post #365 |
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![]() ![]() my friend Kelly. we were hanging out downtown with a couple friends not pictured. |
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| scarrabee | Apr 20 2007, 06:44 AM Post #366 |
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just another madman in the corner
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the last one is realy cool it gives a great contrast between the (I gues non collored) background and the red hair. realy nice |
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| Katatafisch | Apr 20 2007, 08:28 PM Post #367 |
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if you answer my riddle the esophagus will let you pass
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wow the second one is really good, like scarabee said the red hair jumps out of the pic cause of the very bright, grey bg...nice work |
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| elephant | Apr 20 2007, 11:14 PM Post #368 |
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the brackenwood piglet
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That's actually the only part of photography I truly enjoy. But it is really expensive... Older ones, you might've seen them. ![]() ![]() |
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| SuperSack | Apr 20 2007, 11:56 PM Post #369 |
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brilliant photos as always- i love the use of light and shadow, and that trademark grainy quality that you give to some of your pictures. For me it adds character and an individualty to the photos, a welcome change from all the super high definition stuff with no personality to it- even if it is unintentional. Keep up the good work |
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| Katatafisch | Apr 21 2007, 04:41 AM Post #370 |
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if you answer my riddle the esophagus will let you pass
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wow, the second pic is fantastic, i love the sun shining in the back also the cam seems to have an interesting lens...cool stuff dude, make some more of them |
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| ketchupface | Apr 21 2007, 06:54 AM Post #371 |
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Love the slightly out of focus softness of this one. I love your snapshots. They look really well composed yet retain the energy & spontanaeity of quickly snapping one. |
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| psychomunkey3 | Apr 21 2007, 08:52 AM Post #372 |
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Please do! I wanna see your break!
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| yex | Apr 22 2007, 10:12 AM Post #373 |
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Everyone's friend ~ No one's expectation.
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The Other Side Linked for hugeness. If you want to see more, here's my DeviantArt; I upload constantly! My DA |
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| scarrabee | Apr 22 2007, 05:04 PM Post #374 |
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yex: ow nice one (the other side) realy nice how you see the sun come trou the opening in the middle elephant: I like the last one wiuth the sun on the background |
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| hwiazen | Apr 23 2007, 01:16 PM Post #375 |
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Brackenwood Lightweight
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ummm... i'm not a photographer.. but i thought this picture turned out quite well
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