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Sarus and music?
Topic Started: Jul 18 2007, 01:19 PM (669 Views)
Xeon
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So, I have a few questions about speaking Sarus with an instrument. Is there a certain scale you should use? I've been using C major, with C as the root. I've also experimented with using C major, but starting with, for example, F as the root (do). I found that when I played it in a minor key, the message had a different tonal quality to it. A gentle message could sound harsh because of the progression. I had fun skipping octaves, though. =)

I was also wondering if Sarus somehow incorporated certain patterns of music in it as well. For example, a harsh and short downwards glissando normally registers as a negative sound to people. Ever notice that in any language, anywhere in the world, people say "no" (or whatever word/sound they use) with that glissando?
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Kameo
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You make a good point there. But if all the notes were played on a flute perhapse this wouldn't happen. As no note on a flute sounds particularly harsh. Also I know that they are music notes. And I literally just started learning this language. But I think the langauge is supposed to be sung.

What instument are you useing?
You should maybe find a way to get some words online after you play them. I for one would love to hear them.
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raziel
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Jul 19 2007, 09:43 AM
You should maybe find a way to get some words online after you play them. I for one would love to hear them.

post a video on youtube ;)
i'd watch
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chluaid
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I'd love to see/hear anything you guys can come up with. Right now I'm a bit too busy to continue with the Intermediate Unit of the Sarus Lessons but after my work on Waterlollies I'll start to touch on the basics of music, numbers, colours and septaglyphs. I think music will be in the Advanced Unit however, because only those musicians with the deepest knowledge of Sarus will be able to write and translate Sarus songs.

Even so, go right ahead and start your own musical Sarus projects and post your results here. Feel free to use Sarus in any creative ways you think will work. Cross over octaves, work with major or minor, try different time signatures to break up the words and generally do what you like. Just make sure that your words are clearly distinguishable for now.

Matter of fact, your work with musical Sarus and any problems/solutions, tips/tricks you find may be of some help when I'm writing the lessons.

[EDIT] just a thought: Don't feel compelled to cram Sarus into every corner of a song, or build a song made entirely of Sarus. This usually results in something that's quite difficult to listen to.

For starters it might be best to try running a simple theme through a standard piece of music. For example, an ordinary song about the forest might have just one Sarus element, the word dlsl (trees) heard now and then coming through the tune.

This way, any Sarus beginner will be able to more easily recognise that theme running through an otherwise ordinary piece of music.
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Xeon
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Right now, I'm putting musical rests between words and switching up the rhythms/octaves while I play words. I'm normally just writing the words, translating them to notes, then playing them. I agree that only the most advanced Sarus speakers would be able to do this. And those with excellent ear training, which is neglected in musical training today. It makes me sad. =(

As for the instrument, I play this primarily on my flute, but I play it on trumpet, euphonium, piano, and tuba (when I can get my hands on it) occasionally.

I found that since the "letters" of Sarus could be easily translated across octaves, I decided to put in some musical patterns. For example, when I play something with a negative connotation, I like to play it downwards with a quick and harsh glissando at the end. When I play the prefixes, I always do a sfp plus a crescendo to build up tension.

I'll record a couple sentences later on, when my mom's not home. She's against the whole. Music thing. o.O She grew up with old far eastern ideals, where band is "of the devil", or so my dad tells me.

Anything you guys found out?

EDIT: I forgot. I also play Sarus in the key of C, with varying roots. I always start by holding the root for a while.
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