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Kristen
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But the mentality of the user is the same. Most of the arguments of the user for doing such things are exactly what was stated the first time. In the environments that the user is in, maybe there's other manipulations going on. Maybe the raves that they go to, are different, or some sort of mock raves. I'm also aware that for every good thing, theres something bad to ruin it...So maybe its a case by case thing. From the view I've had, its just been a confusing mess. Do people use raves as an excuse in some cases, then?

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