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How many kids are you planning to have?
Topic Started: Oct 12 2010, 04:43 PM (1,001 Views)
Mushy
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Wurmir
Oct 14 2010, 11:52 PM
Mushy
Oct 14 2010, 11:12 PM
MetalMadness
Oct 14 2010, 02:50 PM
Mushy
Oct 14 2010, 12:14 AM
I grew out of playing with dolls and don't care about continuing my line. Humanity ultimately is incapable of having any importance to anything other than itself and humanity is of no importance, therefore no human actions are important. Better not to bring children, like I said, into a world in which they're a detriment & have to live through the moral corruption, suffering and inequality of our society.

You can teach them all you want when they're young, but at a certain age they develop the ability to think for themselves. For all you know, that child that you want now could grow up to murder their sibling and plan to murder you in order to inherit your money. Or they could be a Republican. :mg As for jobs... while I'm not so naive as to think that I'll marry the boyfriend I have when I'm 16... he wants to cure Altzheimer's while I want to be a writer so which one of us do you think would get stuck taking care of the kids? :P
but honestly what then do you really have to do with your life as you grow older? youll be done school, and youll be working... thats it really. sure once you do all the shit you wanted to do and have all the protected sex you want, but then what?

personally i think having kids is a good idea just to have something to fucking do, you know.
and dont even start about moral corruption, suffering, and inequality of society with me. you live in fuckin north america. i live in egypt. come to this shitty country, and then youll understand corruption, suffering, and inequality.

and as for the children thinking for themselves, a kids mind is heavily influenced by their parents, and how they were brought up.

girls are sluts because daddy didnt love them enough. kids become thugs and criminals because mommy and daddy didnt give them attention. kids are spoiled shits who think they can get anything they want because mommy and daddy gave them everything they asked for.

you see what i mean?
Dude! If you're bored, take up skydiving or driving at high speeds or some other entertaining midlife crisis activity! Don't choose to change diapers and struggle for two hours to get your kids to bed. :P

In my talk of inequality, suffering etc. I was refering to human society, not Canadian society. I'm assuming that, regardless of their own lifestyle, my kids would be informed enough for world issues to bother them... in terms of moral corruption I was definitely thinking of western society though.

I don't agree with all of your points about the influence of parents. There's no question that it's the fault of the parents if the kid ends up spoiled. But I believe that the slut issue stems a lot more from the influence of a girl's peers and the image that she's formed of herself based on their opinions. I don't think that self-esteem has much to do with the parents when you're a teenager.
How do your parents feel about you?

:think:
Erm... I know that they love me but I'm kind of the black sheep of the family. :P Uh... most of the aspects that they appreciate about me are aspects that I deem trivial or irrelevant to my future, and they don't support some of the aspects of myself that I do appreciate. So I would say that I'm an example of someone who has high self-esteem and moral values without parental intervention. My opinion isn't based solely on myself though; I've spent much more time than I would like to listening to my female friends talk about their insecurities.

How do YOUR parents feel about YOU? You have to answer AT LENGTH 'cause I didddd... :awesome:
 
Nolan
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so i herd u lyke sharpeedohz
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And how does that make you feel?
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Mushy
Oct 15 2010, 12:37 AM
Wurmir
Oct 14 2010, 11:52 PM
Mushy
Oct 14 2010, 11:12 PM
MetalMadness
Oct 14 2010, 02:50 PM
Mushy
Oct 14 2010, 12:14 AM
I grew out of playing with dolls and don't care about continuing my line. Humanity ultimately is incapable of having any importance to anything other than itself and humanity is of no importance, therefore no human actions are important. Better not to bring children, like I said, into a world in which they're a detriment & have to live through the moral corruption, suffering and inequality of our society.

You can teach them all you want when they're young, but at a certain age they develop the ability to think for themselves. For all you know, that child that you want now could grow up to murder their sibling and plan to murder you in order to inherit your money. Or they could be a Republican. :mg As for jobs... while I'm not so naive as to think that I'll marry the boyfriend I have when I'm 16... he wants to cure Altzheimer's while I want to be a writer so which one of us do you think would get stuck taking care of the kids? :P
but honestly what then do you really have to do with your life as you grow older? youll be done school, and youll be working... thats it really. sure once you do all the shit you wanted to do and have all the protected sex you want, but then what?

personally i think having kids is a good idea just to have something to fucking do, you know.
and dont even start about moral corruption, suffering, and inequality of society with me. you live in fuckin north america. i live in egypt. come to this shitty country, and then youll understand corruption, suffering, and inequality.

and as for the children thinking for themselves, a kids mind is heavily influenced by their parents, and how they were brought up.

girls are sluts because daddy didnt love them enough. kids become thugs and criminals because mommy and daddy didnt give them attention. kids are spoiled shits who think they can get anything they want because mommy and daddy gave them everything they asked for.

you see what i mean?
Dude! If you're bored, take up skydiving or driving at high speeds or some other entertaining midlife crisis activity! Don't choose to change diapers and struggle for two hours to get your kids to bed. :P

In my talk of inequality, suffering etc. I was refering to human society, not Canadian society. I'm assuming that, regardless of their own lifestyle, my kids would be informed enough for world issues to bother them... in terms of moral corruption I was definitely thinking of western society though.

I don't agree with all of your points about the influence of parents. There's no question that it's the fault of the parents if the kid ends up spoiled. But I believe that the slut issue stems a lot more from the influence of a girl's peers and the image that she's formed of herself based on their opinions. I don't think that self-esteem has much to do with the parents when you're a teenager.
How do your parents feel about you?

:think:
Erm... I know that they love me but I'm kind of the black sheep of the family. :P Uh... most of the aspects that they appreciate about me are aspects that I deem trivial or irrelevant to my future, and they don't support some of the aspects of myself that I do appreciate. So I would say that I'm an example of someone who has high self-esteem and moral values without parental intervention. My opinion isn't based solely on myself though; I've spent much more time than I would like to listening to my female friends talk about their insecurities.

How do YOUR parents feel about YOU? You have to answer AT LENGTH 'cause I didddd... :awesome:
At length?
Well, I will elaborate in song

O nooo (x3)
I know they love me,I know they care
They shout whenever, I'm unprepared
They beat my bum, till I cant fart
And someday they plan on ripping me apart

You got an 90? Boy stop playing
Call of Duty? What are you saying
You little failure, look right in my eyes

My mother spanks my bum as a past time,
And I was like
-insert grunts of pain-
I thought 90 would be fine, fine

-grunts of pain continue-
I thought 90 would be fine, fine (but nooo)

Before, I used to think I'm clever
But in my parents eyes, that is a never
I don't wanna fail in school, or else I'm screwed
I'll cant do anything, other than studying
I sleep in class, teacher hates me
Why cant he shut his mouth and just let me have some sweet dreams?

My marks go down, down, down, dooown
I never realized how zeros were so round

Must I repeat the chorus?

Mama:
When I was 13, my marks were my love
There was never a time that I got an eighty,
I always got either 100 or above
To me good marks were easy
Everyone else sucked
I studied night and daily,
Drank so much Starbucks.
It made my heart pound,
And skip a beat when I see double digits and,
I never used the playground,
Must study, got no time to play on weekends,
You guys can call me Asian,
Look at my yellow skin,
I think it might be flakin',
From the light that I bathe in...

No chorus thank you

End of song
 
MetalMadness
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Mushy
Oct 14 2010, 11:12 PM
MetalMadness
Oct 14 2010, 02:50 PM
Mushy
Oct 14 2010, 12:14 AM
I grew out of playing with dolls and don't care about continuing my line. Humanity ultimately is incapable of having any importance to anything other than itself and humanity is of no importance, therefore no human actions are important. Better not to bring children, like I said, into a world in which they're a detriment & have to live through the moral corruption, suffering and inequality of our society.

You can teach them all you want when they're young, but at a certain age they develop the ability to think for themselves. For all you know, that child that you want now could grow up to murder their sibling and plan to murder you in order to inherit your money. Or they could be a Republican. :mg As for jobs... while I'm not so naive as to think that I'll marry the boyfriend I have when I'm 16... he wants to cure Altzheimer's while I want to be a writer so which one of us do you think would get stuck taking care of the kids? :P
but honestly what then do you really have to do with your life as you grow older? youll be done school, and youll be working... thats it really. sure once you do all the shit you wanted to do and have all the protected sex you want, but then what?

personally i think having kids is a good idea just to have something to fucking do, you know.
and don't even start about moral corruption, suffering, and inequality of society with me. you live in fuckin north america. i live in egypt. come to this shitty country, and then youll understand corruption, suffering, and inequality.

and as for the children thinking for themselves, a kids mind is heavily influenced by their parents, and how they were brought up.

girls are sluts because daddy didnt love them enough. kids become thugs and criminals because mommy and daddy didnt give them attention. kids are spoiled shits who think they can get anything they want because mommy and daddy gave them everything they asked for.

you see what i mean?
Dude! If you're bored, take up skydiving or driving at high speeds or some other entertaining midlife crisis activity! Don't choose to change diapers and struggle for two hours to get your kids to bed. :P

In my talk of inequality, suffering etc. I was refering to human society, not Canadian society. I'm assuming that, regardless of their own lifestyle, my kids would be informed enough for world issues to bother them... in terms of moral corruption I was definitely thinking of western society though.

I don't agree with all of your points about the influence of parents. There's no question that it's the fault of the parents if the kid ends up spoiled. But I believe that the slut issue stems a lot more from the influence of a girl's peers and the image that she's formed of herself based on their opinions. I don't think that self-esteem has much to do with the parents when you're a teenager.

i can give you an example. back in the day i used to just chill and relax all the time with my friends. now i would also get some influence from my friends as well, seeing how they would think about things, but sometimes their thoughts clashed with the thoughts i was always brought up with to believe. we always found one thing in common though, and that was basketball. it didnt matter where we were from or what we believed, we just played the same sport with the same rules. but then a couple of guys who were up to no good started makin trouble in my neighbourhood. i got in one little fight and my mom got scared and said youre moving with your auntie and uncle to bel air. i whistled for a cab and when it came near the license plate said fresh and it had a dice in the mirror. if anything i could say that this cab was rare but i thought nah forget it yo homes to bel air i pulled up to a house about 7 or 8 and i yelled to the cabby yo homes smell u later looked at my kingdom i was finally there to sit on my throne as the prince of bel air
Edited by MetalMadness, Jan 8 2012, 07:03 AM.
 
Mushy
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I'm sure that there are some people who are completely impassive. But the degree to which people are informed makes a difference. Simply knowing that there are children starving in Africa is different than seeing pictures and hearing statistics and details and so on; that's why there have been so many restrictions on the media in war zones since Vietnam. I truly think that a lot of the people who don't care would care if they were better informed... either way I'd hope that my kids would care. :P

I don't really understand your point about me... are you saying that my parents are responsible for my beliefs because they failed to pass on their beliefs...? They didn't drill a religion into my head, but I don't see why they would have any fewer ways to influence me than any other atheist parents. And I don't know what you mean by different but I hope that you're not implying that girls in general tend to be slutty or something. :P

In a lot of cases, racist parents seem to beget racist children. But awhile ago pretty much everyone was racist and sexist. My grandmother was horribly racist. :palm: I almost think that racism is something that exists in human nature and logic exists to defeat it. Intellectualism is the means by which we separate ourselves from our predecessors and make society progress. If your kid isn't bright it'll probably just imitate others for the rest of its life but if it's smart it should be able to form its own opinions, separate from yours and separate from those of others.

LOL I hope you didn't know that last paragraph from memory. xD

Wurmie: That song made me sad. D:
 
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I think parental influence do dictate who you are to a certain extent. I don't agree with many of my parent's views or opinions but to say that I don't have some deeply rooted values stemming from my upbringing would be a complete lie. For instances, I grew up in a household where academic success is extremely valued, so I generally instinctively look down on anyone who does not pursue higher education. I also see no problem with spanking an unruly child, although current Western views disagree.

Yes, you start thinking for yourself (well I do hope so) after a certain age, and you get influenced by other factors but I do think the way you were treated and the things that were said to you as a child still stick subconsciously and determines your personality (to an extent).

To be honest, if I had a daughter, my biggest fear of how she'll turn out is basically the same as a my parents'. If I had "cool" parents who are totally chillax with their kids and are their bffs and whatnot, I don't think I'd value the same things for my future child :/
 
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Ew @ looking down on people who don't pursue higher education. D: That's an attribute of my parents that drives me utterly insane. They would probably kill me and bury me with a stack of textbooks if I decided not to go to university.
 
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My Son/Daughter name will be Pikachu.
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Edited by Vongola Famiglia, Oct 17 2010, 08:24 PM.
 
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Is this "people in Canada don't beat/discipline their kids" thing a stereotype or have you people seen it? Like I've seen the occasional example where they are far too lenient on punishments but that's a small minority of parents.

One of my parents had immigrant parents but grew up here and the other is 100% newfoundlander and I had no such thing lol. But maybe this applies more to upper class white people? Which would explain why there's none in newfoundland lol.

On a different note, I once felt like Mushy does. I think it's more of a phase then anything. Disagree if you want but that's my opinion. 16 is a weird phase for a lot of people.
Edited by ☭Vladimir☭, Oct 18 2010, 12:49 PM.
 
Mushy
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☭Vladimir☭
Oct 18 2010, 12:47 PM
Is this "people in Canada don't beat/discipline their kids" thing a stereotype or have you people seen it? Like I've seen the occasional example where they are far too lenient on punishments but that's a small minority of parents.

One of my parents had immigrant parents but grew up here and the other is 100% newfoundlander and I had no such thing lol. But maybe this applies more to upper class white people? Which would explain why there's none in newfoundland lol.

On a different note, I once felt like Mushy does. I think it's more of a phase then anything. Disagree if you want but that's my opinion. 16 is a weird phase for a lot of people.
Unsurprisingly enough, I disagree. :P I think that it's belittling my opinion to call it something wrong that needs to be amended with age. I understand that your stance changed but not everyone feels that way; one of my aunts chose not to have children.

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women arent attracted to kindness, theyre attracted to confidence, and you cant argue with me about this because its just a fact, its how your brains work, or at least the majority.

I wouldn't try to argue against that, sadly. :P Though I don't know whether it's biological or societal.

My parents spanked me when I was younger. It had no impact on me at all though. :P What I disliked most was having privileges taken away, since that's a lasting punishment.
 
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BludLust
Oct 13 2010, 06:38 PM
Some of you have names picked out already? O_o

On a related/not related note, my classmate friend from grade 6 got married last week. She's 18 :3
So Chid's 18 eh..
 
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She's isn't the same age as me btw, LOL.

And I always @ the parents that say "Charlie! Go to your room!"
 
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Lucky parents sending you to your nice warm rooms
My parent's send me outside the house

:dur:
 
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Wurmir
Oct 18 2010, 09:13 PM
Lucky parents sending you to your nice warm rooms
My parent's send me outside the house

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o-o My parents stop sending me to my room when they realized i had my laptop, ds ,ipod and other stuff. So it wasn't really a punishment.
:D
 
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Real punishment is a spanking or beating
And not just a light pat on the bum
I mean like punt them to Bangkok

>8O
 
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