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| Heterochromia | Nov 21 2010, 07:39 PM Post #16 |
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A lot of girls forget that piece of info ;] Or they are doing it on purpose. Yeah, my best solution is to go into stalls. But I hate public washrooms because of how "open" the stalls are as well. I also saw this video about this guy who wanted to dress up as a girl character for one halloween and his mom immediately took that as him being gay. She bought him all girl clothes and told all her friends about his orientation. And the kid was like eight =/ Edit: Can't find the vid D: |
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| Matchstick | Nov 22 2010, 12:23 PM Post #17 |
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Skai: I have the same problem at my school the guys in fashion always checking you out while you try piss its quite annoying. This is probably the main reason a lot of people are homophobe. As for me I completely and honestly don't care what they do, after all they are human beings. But i would ask for then to not be attracted to me. 
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| DaniCirca | Nov 26 2010, 05:35 AM Post #18 |
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Seriously? Over 1000? Wow.
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I doubt estrogen has much to do with it, society has just become more accepting, because it wouldn't affect girls, and a lot of them are coming out too. That said I think the options are terrible. it's a sensitive subject why did you have to make them all so "FUCKING" provocative, like seriously, ediut out the F-Bombs and try and proiduce some level headed choices please. Well I guess you don't have to, but i think you should. it's a pretty open community here, but it just gives the thread an ugly intro, that attacks people rather personally, pretty much playing with fire... I kinda think sexuality is a bit of an... iunno. It's silly to say you're born that way, as kids don't really have sexualities, so it doesn't really come into play at that point. Besides saying you're born that way implies it's genetics, which I don't think it is... or is it? I'm not an expert, but last i heard there was no homogene, or a heterogene for that matter. So learned behavior isnt the best way to express it, but I do think some of it was to do with surroundings and experiences. Because everyone has their own tastes, right? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some people with find one girl/dyude attractive that others won't. And sometimes people's tastes can change a bit too as it goes on. Or they can have a variety of tastes. And you see that a lot with orientation. You can't really help what you like, but on the flipside you see a lot of bicuriousity and people changing back and fourth... So like, iunno. It's a complicated issue, it's obviously not generally a choice. The average person doesn't just decide to force themselves to find something attractive to mix it up and/or spite crazy republicans, but I think life has an undeniable influence on lifestyle.... I'm to tired for this complicated subject... XD -DaniCirca |
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| Matchstick | Nov 26 2010, 12:14 PM Post #19 |
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Well said Dani, very well said. |
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| Mushy | Nov 26 2010, 05:39 PM Post #20 |
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"A postmortem examination of homosexual male brains revealed that a portion of the hypothalamus of the brain was structurally different than a heterosexual brain (34). Laura S. Alien found that the anterior commissure was significantly larger in the homosexual men than that of the heterosexuals (35). These two anatomical findings became a standing ground for the biological argument on homosexuality. The size difference would emerge due to sexual differentiation occurring during the prenatal period and not due to environmental factors. Simon LeVay (1991) focused on the hypothalamus to test the biological substrate of sexual orientation. LeVay did a postmortem examination on human brains of patients who had died from AIDS-related illnesses. It is stated that these consisted of 19 declared homosexual men, 16 presumed heterosexual men, and 6 presumed heterosexual women. LeVay discovered that within the hypothalamus, the third interstitial nucleus of the anterior hypothalamus (INAH3) was smaller in homosexual men then in heterosexual men (36). It was concluded that the homosexual and heterosexual men differ in the central neuronal mechanisms that control sexual behavior, and that this difference in anatomy was no product of upbringing or environment, but rather prenatal cerebral development and structural differentiation. LeVay later stated in his biography that the INAH3 may not be the only centre in the brain influencing the sexual behavior in men and women (37)." "To tease out the influences of genetic and environmental factors on psychological and behavioral traits, comparison of the probability of homosexuality between monozygotic (or identical) twins (MZ), who possess exactly the same genes as the co-twin, and dizygotic (or fraternal) twins (DZ), who are not closely related genetically to any normal sibling but roughly half of their genes are the same, was done. If there is a difference between the concordance rate for homosexuality in MZ and DZ, then this is strong evidence that there is some genetic component to the etiology of homosexuality. However, if the concordance rate in monozygotic twins is not 100%, then environmental factors must be exerting some influence. Franz J Kallman conducted the earliest twin study in 1952 and reported a 100% concordance between MZ twins, and only a 12% concordance for DZ twins (48, 49). Although the theory was discredited with methodological problems, it paved the way for further studies. Michael J. Bailey and Richard Pillard (1991) studied the homosexuality between MZ, DZ twins, and non-related adopted brothers. They examined how many of the sample population were homosexual and how many were heterosexual. They found that 52% of MZ twins, whereas 22% of DZ twins and only 5% of non-related adopted brothers were selfidentified homosexuals (50). This experiment was repeated and results were similar proving that the more closely genetically linked a pair is, the more likely that both will exhibit homosexual or heterosexual tendencies. Later they also found occurrence of homosexuality among sisters in 48% of MZ twins of homosexual women, 16% of DZ twins and 6% of adoptive sisters (51). The role of genetics in male sexual orientation was further investigated by Dean Hamer in a pedigree and linkage analyses on 114 families of homosexual men (52). To investigate a maternal link, the family trees of declared homosexual men were examined. He took DNA samples from forty homosexual men, and genetically examined them to explore the possibility of homosexuality being an X-linked trait (female sex linked). It was found that there was a remarkable concordance for 5 genetic markers on an arm of the X-Chromosome called Xq28 (53)." "David E. Featherstone focused on a glial amino-acid transporter called genderblind, in which a mutation caused male flies to court males with the same probability as females (55). By manipulating this gene, homosexuality in flies could be altered. These investigators reported a nonneuronal mechanism for modulation of the neuronal function in the brain as genderblind is a glial transporter. There is a caveat in the explanation and comparison of homosexuality qualitatively across the species. It is to be conjectured whether a part of such research findings can indeed be extrapolated beyond flies as human behavior is a lot more complex." "There is evidence to suggest that the brains of homosexual men function differently than the brains of heterosexual men (56-59). The studies comparing the homosexual, heterosexual men and women have indicated that homosexual men are more like women in their intellectual functions and different than heterosexual men (56-59). They have superior verbal abilities compared to heterosexual men (57, 60). More recently, neuroimaging techniques have been used to facilitate our understanding in the neural mechanism of sexual orientation in homosexuals (61–67). Even till now, phallometry (Footnote 3) was considered gold standard in assessment of sexual orientation (68), but this measurement had been criticized because of its intrusiveness and limited reliability (69). The functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) is a non-invasive technique in which the differential spatial activation of the brain is revealed by a change in blood oxygen leveldependent signals. Various sexual arousal paradigms are used to predict the difference in neural circuits involved in homo and heterosexual brain (61–67). Positron emission tomography (PET) imaging involves injection of a radioactive tracer (a biological molecule which carries a positron emitting isotope). Within minutes, the molecule accumulates in an area of the body for which it has an affinity and the emitted positrons are detected. PET imaging is used to evaluate the functional connectivity in the brain (63). The results from these imaging modalities show activations of right cingulate cortex, the left angular gyrus, left caudate nucleus, and right pallidum in homosexual men, but not in heterosexual men during visually evoked sexual arousal (61, 62). However, heterosexual men showed activation in the bilateral lingual gyrus, right hippocampus, and right parahippocampal gyrus, areas not activated in homosexual men. In another report, it was shown that in the homosexual men and heterosexual women volumes of the cerebral hemispheres were symmetrical whereas in homosexual women and heterosexual men there was a rightward cerebral asymmetry (63). Sex-differentiated functional connections are shown in amygdala at rest. In man, the connections were mainly from right amygdala targeting to sensorimotor cortex, striatum, and pulvinar, whereas in women these are more pronounced in left amygdala and project to subgenual cortex and hypothalamus. But homosexual subjects showed sex-atypical amygdala connections (63). Cerebral responses to putative pheromones and objects of sexual attraction were also found to differ between homo- and heterosexual subjects (64, 65). Men exhibit much higher levels of genital and subjective arousal to sexual stimuli containing their preferred sex than they do to stimuli containing only the nonpreferred sex. Apparently heterosexual men are not stimulated by a male scent which suggests that pheromones contribute to determining our behavior in relation to our sexual orientation (64). Homosexual women, as compared to heterosexual women, reacted in a sex atypical, almost reciprocal way to pheromones (65). It is known that men show category-specific genital and self-reported specific sexual arousals in response to visual sexual stimuli, and their greatest sexual arousal is to the categories of people with whom they preferred to have sex. One line of thought suggests that a male/female dichotomy in behavior develops with age and this development might be under the influence of very different learning experiences as sexual experiences are experiences that are likely to change brain profoundly (70). So there is still a strong possibility that any real differences demonstrated between adult homosexual and heterosexual brains related to sexual functioning could result due to learning and experience. It is an interesting observation that the homosexual men have an increased prevalence of non-right-handedness and they exhibited atypical patterns of hemispheric functional asymmetry. Non-right-handedness in men is associated with increased size of the corpus callosum, particularly of the isthmus, which is the posterior region of the callosal body connecting parietotemporal cortical regions (71). These results indicate that callosal anatomy and laterality for motor functions are dissociated in homosexual men. Another study indicates that the auditory systems of homosexual and bisexual females, and the brain structures responsible for their sexual orientation are partially masculinized by exposure to high levels of androgens prenatally. The click-evoked otoacoustic emmisions (CEOAEs) are echo-like waveforms emitted by normal-hearing cochleas in response to a brief transient sound. The CEOAEs are stronger in females than in males. Homosexual and bisexual females were intermediate to those of heterosexual male and females. No differences were observed between homosexual and heterosexual males (72). Homosexuality among animals : an evolutionary perspective The homosexual behavior has been observed in many animal species. The study Comparisons of activation to preferred sexual stimuli, nonpreferred sexual stimuli revealed large networks correlated with sexual arousal, spanning multiple cortical and subcortical areas as both homosexual and heterosexual men exhibited category-specific arousal in brain activity (66). Within the amygdala, greater preference-related activation was observed in homosexual men, but it is unclear whether this is a cause or a consequence of their sexuality. It is known that sexually arousing visual stimuli activates the human reward system and triggers sexual behavior. Ponseti used pictures of either male or female genitals displaying signs of sexual arousal as a sexual stimuli instead of sexually arousing pictures of a person to avoid confounding brain activation related to neuronal processing of faces, gestures or social interactions (67). The fMRI during visual processing of sexual core stimuli pinpointed a neuronal correlate of sexual preference in humans as stimuli lacked any additional contextual information. The ventral striatum and the centromedian thalamus showed a stronger neuronal response to preferred relative to nonpreferred stimuli. Likewise, the ventral premotor cortex which is a key structure for imitative (mirror neurons) and toolrelated (canonical neurons) actions showed a bilateral sexual preference-specific activation. It was suggested that viewing sexually aroused genitals of the preferred sex triggers action representations of sexual behavior. The neuronal response of the ventral striatum, centromedian thalamus and ventral premotor cortex to preferred sexual stimuli was consistent across all groups." |
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| The Mad Chemist | Nov 26 2010, 07:47 PM Post #21 |
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^Scientific proof they're born gay? o-o |
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| PBJay | Nov 27 2010, 12:31 AM Post #22 |
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Tbh, I myself sometimes wonder how life would be on the homosexual side. Most girls think only one thing when they get into a relationship nowadays, fuck em and chuck em. It's pretty damn hard to find someone who is willing to have a srs relationship. That is why I wonder how life would be like on the homo side o_o |
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| Mushy | Nov 27 2010, 02:41 AM Post #23 |
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Live together, die alone
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Wah no one actually reads it. D: If you look only a few sentences into what I posted: "The size difference would emerge due to sexual differentiation occurring during the prenatal period and not due to environmental factors." That paragraph is on brain structure. The second is on genetics, third is a fruit fly study (also genetics) and the last is on brain function. In my opinion there is ample, ample evidence to prove that people are born gay. People can choose to live whatever kind of lifestyle they want, but they can't choose what gender they're attracted to by nature. Jay: Seriously, or are you being ironic? 
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| Beyoncé<3 | Nov 27 2010, 01:04 PM Post #24 |
cause we like to partaaay
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are we really doing this again? D:< Do you not remember how heated it got in the chat? >.< Anyways I picked the third one, I just believe it's not right. My belief, not yours, whatever you say won't make me change it, blah blah blah. |
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| slamdunk69 | Nov 27 2010, 10:40 PM Post #25 |
POP!
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aren't lesbians supposed to be hot? |
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| Nolan | Nov 27 2010, 10:55 PM Post #26 |
so i herd u lyke sharpeedohz
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What natural advantage could being born homosexual possibly present to a species? I am not bashing homosexuality, I'm just wondering. |
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| Mushy | Nov 27 2010, 11:52 PM Post #27 |
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It can teach that species how to be more tolerant and kind to others.  Seriously though, none of course. That's why medicalization of homosexuality is a two-edged sword. On the one hand, it shows heterosexuals that homosexuals can't be blamed for how they feel. On the other hand, it sometimes treats homosexuality as a disease that should be cured. I remember Donkeydude mentioning once that this offended him.
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| Quattro | Nov 28 2010, 10:48 PM Post #28 |
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Very few are 100% straight or 100% gay. We all fall somewhere on the Kinsey scale. Also, some animals are known to engage in homo activities/sex so it's not like its some "unnatural" business. I took a Sexual Psych. course and this thread is making me headdesk so fucking hard. My prof actually said that humans weren't gay enough. Stop being so backwards, homosexuals are people and their orientation is NOT the defining point of who they are as a person. It's on the same level of discrimination as sexism and racism. Treating people as lesser beings for something that is COMPLETELY OUT OF THEIR CONTROL. Would you prefer them to beard to fit your stupid expectations and have both parties live a lie? I don't think that would be fair either the person in the relationship. And so what if say homosexuality is a "choice" (it's not, and who the fuck would willingly choose to be something society shuns anyway?), so what? It's not harming anybody is it? Live and let live. I bet most of you people who think homosexuality is something gross or to be condemned also have societal gender roles drilled so hard into your head that you can't even detect sexism when it's there because you've been conditioned to think it's what's "normal" or "realistic". Or don't believe that introversion is something one is born as, and believe it to be a personality defect. /bitter rant |
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| Mushy | Nov 28 2010, 11:35 PM Post #29 |
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Seriously? I always thought that extroversion and introversion were just personality traits. But I've never seen introversion as a defect.
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| PBJay | Nov 29 2010, 12:14 AM Post #30 |
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LOL. Ok, don't misunderstand me here, I would never go gay Sometimes I just ponder how homosexual people's lives differ from ours. o_o
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