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Santa Rosa Island; hunting
Topic Started: Sep 29 2006, 03:22 PM (936 Views)
peppermint
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Peter: I'm afraid to even ask this but....does the hunting out on Santa Rosa put the eagles at any risk? Do they accidentally pick up lead when feeding on carcasses...or have any been accidentally shot?

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peppermint,Sep 29 2006
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Peter: I'm afraid to even ask this but....does the hunting out on Santa Rosa put the eagles at any risk? Do they accidentally pick up lead when feeding on carcasses...or have any been accidentally shot?

peppermint -
Excellent questions...I was wondering - and worried about - the same things. Especially about the eagles and other wildlife accidently being shot. I don't like the idea of the whole hunting thing anyway!
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I have read (somewhere) that the birds can accidently eat the gun pellets and this can cause death. As I recall, it was because the pellets were lead. I dont know if this is still the case.
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That was the case with some eagles in Japan and they became endangered. Japan passed a law outlawing lead pellets.
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Patti
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I, too, have been worried about eagles accidentally being shot. I think we may have taken the lead out of our bullets--or is that wishful dreaming on my part?

I recall that the IWS has been working with the Stellar's (sp?) eagle (Japanese project) regarding lead in gunshot. Part of that problem has been solved. My wishful thinking is that the USA no longer has lead in any part of the bullet. (Or else people would be in harm's way, I would imagine?) I don't know--just hoping this is the case.
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Stellar Eagles!!! That's it..they are the ones in Japan that I saw on Animal Planet.

Perhaps we should ask Dick Cheney about lead in bullets?? JUST KIDDING!!
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KLJinOz
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I just did a goodsearch for 'lead bullets' and came up with 307223 hits! I think they are still around.
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It is wishful thinking that the US does not use lead ammunition anymore, although it is the major cause of mortality and illness in the California Condors. We have had one confirmed lead poisoning of a bald eagle on Santa Rosa (we were able to recover it before it died, so it is now healthy and flying again), and a couple mysterious deaths of bald eagles on Santa Rosa that could have been lead poisoning. I've heard rumors that people are using non-lead ammunition this year on Santa Rosa, but I don't know if it is true.
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Peter: Is there anything we can do to get them to stop using lead out on Santa Rosa? I should think the NPS would NEVER allow lead within the National Forests or Parks! You KNOW how we love a good "cause".....where do we start?
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CarolAnn
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Dr. Sharpe -
You are always so good about answering our questions. Please know it is very much appreciated! I have learned a lot here. . . from you and the others on this forum. Thank you!

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Eagle Guy,Sep 29 2006
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It is wishful thinking that the US does not use lead ammunition anymore, although it is the major cause of mortality and illness in the California Condors. We have had one confirmed lead poisoning of a bald eagle on Santa Rosa (we were able to recover it before it died, so it is now healthy and flying again), and a couple mysterious deaths of bald eagles on Santa Rosa that could have been lead poisoning. I've heard rumors that people are using non-lead ammunition this year on Santa Rosa, but I don't know if it is true.

Dr Sharpe is correct, lead bullets are the leading cause of California Condor deaths in the Sespe Refuge. Lead bullets are not outlawed in California, hunters need to be educated to use other types of ammunition. Most of us on this forum are against hunting, but hunting is a huge sport that we will never be able to completely curtail. Educate the hunters you know...and contact your congresspersons and senators...

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In 1997 I purchased a young African grey from a pet shop; paid full price, knowing something was wrong when I purchased her.

In the few short months of her life being raised in that pet shop, she was exposed to enough toxins to kill her. After spending hunreds of dollars on Zuni, I lost her to metal toxin poisoning on July 4, 1997. It was a slow horrible death. She had seizures; all I could do was hold her. She only let me and one pet shop employee handle her, so that's why I purchased her. She had barely started her long life and was already doomed before she got out the pet shop door. She was under a veterinarian's care nearly the entire time I had her, which was 5 months total.

Well, folks, I've been there and done that with metal poisonings, and I am extremely depressed over this Santa Rosa situation. My advice: Don't get attached to these eagles and pray that non-leaded ammunition is required and is rigidly enforced.

I saw my own Zuni, while still being weaned at the pet shop, with all sorts of horrible things in her mouth. People think it's amusing to give parrots human gadgets to play with. It didn't turn out funny, did it? Sorry, but this Santa Rosa hunting topic is bringing up my horrible memories.

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Patti
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I have emailed the National Park Service and hope to hear from them. I will let you know if I hear back.

Write to

Channel Islands National Park
1901 Spinnaker Drive
Ventura, CA 93001

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http://www.nps.gov/PWR/sendmail.htm?o=%3B2.../chis/index.htm

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(805) 658-5730

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(805) 658-5799
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If this hunting does go through, which I find it hard to believe it will in the end, and they continue to use lead ammunition, then hopefully someone will sue, or threaten to sue, the hunting franchise to require them to use non-lead ammunition, as it is posing a threat to a threatened species (bald eagles) and probably an endangered species (island fox), both of which feed on the deer and elk carcasses.
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I opened a new thread about Santa Rosa under Observations, but here's the link to the article in the Ventura County Star in today's paper.

http://www.venturacountystar.com/vcs/count...5034228,00.html
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