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| Discussion of other Raptor species; their anatomy, biology, ecology, etc. | |
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| ostrich2 | Oct 31 2007, 07:47 PM Post #196 |
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Yes I definitely saw the goldens I saw out in remote badland areas - I wasn't sure whether they would be likely to be seen in less isolated areas where you would be hunting for example. |
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| Naturegal | Nov 1 2007, 03:45 AM Post #197 |
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Ostrich2/Ian - Never heard or read anything about the bald eagles being seen again. I too was hoping that they would find a nice nesting sight and reproduce. |
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| Raptorman | Nov 1 2007, 05:19 AM Post #198 |
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| ostrich2 | Nov 1 2007, 09:14 AM Post #199 |
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If you see anything really exciting like goldens try and get some pictures
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| Raptorman | Nov 1 2007, 06:12 PM Post #200 |
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| ostrich2 | Nov 2 2007, 11:59 AM Post #201 |
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I've put in my guess - I suspect it isn't correct, but I did find one species which was pretty close. |
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| Patti | Nov 2 2007, 12:29 PM Post #202 |
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:lol: Well, I guess I got my WRONG Petra-BIRD I.D. answer in to Bill, via a PM! Bill, looking forward to checking tomorrow a.m. for the answer. Will you post another bird to I.D.? I think it's a good learning process and fun. Not fun to be wrong, but fun to explore. One bird to I.D. is about my speed. :wacko: Looking forward to any photos you are able to catch on your trips. |
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| Raptorman | Nov 3 2007, 05:30 AM Post #203 |
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| ostrich2 | Nov 3 2007, 07:29 AM Post #204 |
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Now that the hawk is out of the bag I will explain as much as I can remember about my thought process as I was trying to find a match. The best I was able to manage was to find a bird which seemed to fit in several respects, but I knew probably wasn't right since it had a distinctive feature which Petra's bird didn't. My guess was Wahlberg's Eagle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahlberg's_Eagle) Now in my defense I think I can rightly claim I was thrown off a bit assuming this was not a NA species, as Bill had posted earlier that it wasn't from NA. Or did you mean to say that was a NA species Bill? Or is the lesson that we shouldn't trust what anyone says before we investigate ourselves? ![]()
So I tended to discount any typical species I was familiar with and started looking for something from Europe or Asia. My thought process started with size - I think I too misjudged the size (I'm not great at it either), but it seemed to be a large bird. I wasn't sure how big, but I thought eagle sized, possibly bald sized, although possibly smaller as well. So I spent most of my time researching eagle species, although I was looking to see if there was an eagle that would be an option, as this bird certainly had characteristics that are very different from a bald, for example. - the tail was quite long, and seemed to be fairly square shaped, not shorter and fan shaped like familiar eagles like the golden or bald - the wings were also a different shape from familiar eagles, although I can't put my finger on exactly what it is. Unfortunately I couldn't find a picture of a Wahlberg's that showed the underside of the wings and tail, but the descriptions mentioned a barred grey undersides to the flight feathers and the tail. It also mentioned a long narrow square ended tail which also seemed to fit. The big problem with the Wahlberg's was that they are supposed to have a crest on the head, which this bird didn't. It's also tough I find researching online because unless you have an actual field guide in front of you the pictures on most sites aren't intended to give you a full picture of the variety of plumages you may see in the same species. Here's a picture of a red-shouldered for example that looks absolutely nothing like Petra's bird: |
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| Raptorman | Nov 3 2007, 09:12 AM Post #205 |
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| ostrich2 | Nov 3 2007, 04:26 PM Post #206 |
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I checked the local public library and the only field guide for raptors that they had was Peterson's Field Guide To Hawks (although it is an older edition), so I will see if that helps at High Park tomorrow:
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| Patti | Nov 3 2007, 05:06 PM Post #207 |
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I don't mean to poke fun at myself and you, Ostrich....but I can confirm that I have Red-shouldered's over my head and have watched one on a pole....but I've never seen one in that position---and NEVER would have guessed this hawk...one of the few I happen to see quite often. DUH!!!!! Even if I had quickly seen this position, I would have still gotten the wrong answer. :rolleyes: "My" R-S here has more contrast with the wings closed...it was a dark dark, almost black and white pattern on the closed wings. Anyway, it was fun and hope we have more birds to I.D. -- hint hint... Have a great time with your Peterson Field Guide tomorrow at High Park, Ostrich. Thank you for the wonderful hunting photos, Bill. Beautiful and peaceful..how I like it. By the way, I think Bea and Ralph have to see the Red-shouldered if I do--since I see it more their way than mine. But not in Petra's Position~~~ |
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| Naturegal | Nov 3 2007, 06:18 PM Post #208 |
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I thought this was a beautiful photo of our mystery bird....................
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| Naturegal | Nov 3 2007, 06:22 PM Post #209 |
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Ostrich/Ian - Have a great time at High Park, hope you see lots of birds and take photos to post here. Raptorman/Bill - Thank you for posting your beautiful photos, my favourite time of day too. |
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| Raptorman | Nov 4 2007, 08:20 AM Post #210 |
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