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| Discussion of other Raptor species; their anatomy, biology, ecology, etc. | |
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| harpo516 | Nov 6 2007, 08:01 PM Post #241 |
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Thanks Nancy - awesome photos! |
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| harpo516 | Nov 6 2007, 08:02 PM Post #242 |
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I grew up in Ohio and only knew crows - what a surprise in seeing ravens and their size and as you say - the difference in calls! |
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| Patti | Nov 6 2007, 11:06 PM Post #243 |
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I couldn't believe it...this is a tiny wee fraction of the crows that congregated in our yard/hill this afternoon. I went out because of the ongoing noise and saw numerous groups of tens of crows coming in from lower down the hill...possibly up to 100 altogether. This is 20 minutes into it, when it started to break up. Hawks hang out in the big pine tree that shows at the end...but NOT today! At first I thought they were after a hawk, but not after tens upon tens of them came in.
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| Patti | Nov 6 2007, 11:26 PM Post #244 |
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Bea, I just read your post & can't go back into my video post or will wreck the link. How EXCITING you saw the barn owl! I hear a couple of owls quite often and have only seen one, just once in a while--and at night, and only the outline. It sits on the thick cable right out in front of my house, actually along the road near the corner. We had lots of rats for a long time--and I rarely see them anymore--and suspect the owl waits for them to come out when they eat the bird pellets I throw out with my bird "soup" water bowls. For a while I threw the uneaten food over the wall for rats along the road and realized the owl sounds appeared to be coming from that direction as well. And now...no more rats, at least coming out to wait for me AT MY FRONT DOOR...for soaked parrot pellets. My childhood friend is coming to visit tomorrow, I think, and he built an owl "house" of some type for his nearby farm. I'll ask him if he has any owls in his orchard "house" and give you the report as I'm curious myself about his owls too. I would not be surprised if our newish neighbors put out a bunch of rat poison bait and don't want to think about it---and hope the owls got them instead. That poison is awful. |
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| Raptorman | Nov 7 2007, 12:55 PM Post #245 |
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| ostrich2 | Nov 7 2007, 03:33 PM Post #246 |
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I came across a couple of raptor sites which have photos of a lot of the species we have been discussing, and folks may be interested in looking through: Raptor Education Group Cascades Raptor Center |
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| Raptorman | Nov 7 2007, 09:10 PM Post #247 |
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| ostrich2 | Nov 7 2007, 09:44 PM Post #248 |
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Since that's such an obvious error I tend to assume that's more likely a case of sloppy web page design as opposed to not actually knowing the difference between a raptor and a corvid. I can tell just by looking at the pages that they were almost certainly done by a professional web designer, i.e. someone who knows how to create web pages but with no knowledge/expertise in the subject matter). The actual crow and raven pages they have do explain that they are corvids and what corvids are, so I gather they probably also occasionally care for non-raptorial birds. I can then easily imagine someone doing their web design trying to decide where to put these links and just lumping them in on the same page instead of making a whole separate part of the site for them (probably awkward if they are exceptions and 99% of the rest of the site is devoted to raptors). You're right though that it is misleading unless you go to the links are read them through. So in short I personally would tend to cut them some slack on that one - that's my personal opinion anyway.
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| ostrich2 | Nov 7 2007, 10:10 PM Post #249 |
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Bill, you mentioned the Sibley field guide - do you have any opinion on the Peterson field guides? The Peterson hawks guide seems to be okay (and I can't complain about what I'm paying for it since I'm using a library copy) although I wish they would put the plates and the photos together with the descriptions. Although it's a field guide to hawks, it really covers falcons and eagles as well. |
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| Bea | Nov 8 2007, 12:16 AM Post #250 |
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Whew you guys have been so busy here, but I'm finally all caught up. So much good info and pics.Paula, excellent pics from the Osprey Banding. Must have been a very exciting day for you. Do I remember correctly that you did this last year also? Or am I just remembering this from when you told us in June? I got to see my first Osprey only a few weeks ago. Beautiful Birds.Nancy, thank you so much for your pics and account of Hawk Hill. Now, I know for sure that you did this last year too, cause I saw those pics that we can't find anymore. Sure is interesting, all the devices and things they use to weigh, measure and band the birds. With the Ospreys too! Nancy, I need your help to ID a little blue bird (actually 3 or 4 of them) that have been visiting my birdfeeders for the last week or so. It's got me stumped. I'll post a picture over on the "Everything else" thread if you would take a look please? Bill, thank you so much for the drawings and descriptions of the various trapping devices. I can now much better visualize how the IWS captured that eagle. Thank you for ALL your valuable information and help you so generously offer us novices! I really like this thread! And before I forget, thanks for those great pics from your hunting trip. My favorite is the "Man and his best friend" Okay, here are some of our pics, click to make bigger! First the Owl, then the White Tailed Kite. I really like the last picture, even though it's not all that clear. BTW, the orange color tint is the sun going down. ![]() ![]()
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| Bea | Nov 8 2007, 01:33 AM Post #251 |
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Patti, this might be the Hawk you saw. Looks like a chunk of the end of the feathers is missing. I don't think a complete feather is missing? Wonder how that could have happened? ![]() Ostrich, these next two are just for fun. We were talking about how difficult it sometimes can be to see that "red" tail. I came upon a couple pics of mine that clearly shows how important lighting is. In the first picture, you can really see that orange/red tail. Second picture is the same bird, but the lighting and the bird's, as well as my position changed, and you cannot see the "red" tail. ![]() Okay Guys, I gotta get some Nancy, I will post that pic of the little blue bird tomorrow night or over the weekend, okay? Oh, before I go, I do have another question for Nancy, Bill, Paula or anybody who might know. In the Wildbird Magazine I often see a statement like: "This bird is a "lifer" for me"; or "I have 9 birds on my "LifeList". What exactly is a "Life List" in Bird Watching? I have printed out a list of all the California Wild birds and have started to mark off the ones I am able to identify when I see them. Would this be considered something like a "Life List"? Or is a "Life List" a specific list with specific birds on it, and if so, where can I see one? Thank you in advance!! 'Night 'night!! |
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| Raptorman | Nov 8 2007, 03:38 AM Post #252 |
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| Raptorman | Nov 8 2007, 04:43 AM Post #253 |
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| Bea | Nov 8 2007, 10:51 AM Post #254 |
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Bill, sorry, I should have mentioned that the smaller bird is a crow, and yes, it was mobbing the raptor. I think the glare from the sun makes it hard to ID the crow. I'll try to get a better pic of the hawk with the missing feather should he come around again. I'm glad this type of injury/damage does not seem to hinder him in any way (at least not that we can see). I think he/she is really beautiful, and yes, definetly easy to recognize with those feather(s) missing. Thank you for the explanation of the LifeList. I thought it was something along those lines. Well, I don't think I will get too serious with my list. It's mainly to help me remember what birds I have seen , but I know that I wont stop looking for a bird just because I crossed him off my list. About the White Tailed Kites: I think we have quite a few of them around here. I saw another one yesterday over some open fields, and I know I've seen them before, just didn't know what they were at the time. Yesterday's was hovering quite low, and would have made for a great pic, but, I didn't have my camera with me, so I just sat back in my car and enjoyed watching it for a few minutes. |
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| Raptorman | Nov 8 2007, 01:42 PM Post #255 |
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- that's my personal opinion anyway.
you guys have been so busy here, but I'm finally all caught up. So much good info and pics.
I got to see my first Osprey only a few weeks ago. Beautiful Birds.









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