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Discussion of other Raptor species; their anatomy, biology, ecology, etc.
Topic Started: Sep 16 2007, 11:04 AM (18,105 Views)
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I have to say I've never specifically watched before for whether sticks are ever delivered in beak instead of talons, but it certainly would be surprising if it never happens. I'm pretty sure I've seen it occasionally with K10 and K26 (as we did see today), and I have some recollection of seeing it occur on rare occasions with the Saanich adults. Probably a source that says they "don't" is overstating the situation somewhat when it is more likely rare or not typical. Taken completely literally, "don't" is an extremely strong statement - I'm sure of all the bald eagles that have ever lived in the history of the species, there have been ones that break every "rule".
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Sorry for barging in here, Bill & Ostrich...and I'm reading your posts..interesting.

Got a Sundance Channel email this a.m. for a film I'd like to watch from the start. It features a very unusual hawk...striking! All I caught was the last 30 or so minutes and it doesn't appear to be a pleasant story. Paul Giamatti stars in it and constantly handles the raptor. The credits give the names of 3 raptors. Striking hawks with red tails, yet they don't look like a normal Red-tails--and I thought I was only watching one...so they do look alike.

Film: The Hawk is Dying
Screening Time: WEDNESDAY JAN 16 11AM


Visit http://www.sundancechannel.com/schedule for the full month's schedule.

Sincerely,
- The SundanceChannel.com

It also airs at 7PM on Wednesday -- and I'm prepared for an unsettling storyline. Based on a story by Harry Crews, whomever he is.

Sundance Channel link to The Hawk Is Dying:
Sundance video interview & background on The Hawk Is Dying
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Hi all, sorry I've been MIA for so long!
Have caught up with you guys here (whew, you guys covered a lot of stuff!).

A couple of weeks ago there was a "Huell Howser" episode about these two young falconers in Northern California. I tuned in somewhat late, but I have to say, I was a little turned off by the way these birds were handled. I'm probably just overly sensitive when it comes to that, but even hubby stopped watching when one of the tethered falcons was trying like mad to fly away from the cameraman, and couldn't. I did stuck it out and watched the remainder of the show, but I couldn't help but feel "hurt" seeing the birds so frightened. In any case, it was educational and they showed a variety of falcons and owls. They also said California has the highest number of active falconers.

Patti, Sharpie is fine! He comes around 2 to 3 times a week now, so has slowed down a little. Maybe he didn't get lucky catching anything in a while??

The Cordons Bleus are fine too! Keeping my eye on them, and I have some awesome pictures to show you all. I'm in the process of building a Gallery, so hopefully I can show you guys soon! (Sorry about side-tracking here Bill :D )

Anyways, my biggest news is:

I have a new pal. Another Hawk (not Sharpie) has been visiting my yard a few times, and, yesterday and today he actually landed on my birdbath and cooled off his feet for almost a half hour. Ralph managed to get some awesome shots of him/her thru the window, and I will post asap!! Hoping tonight, but with my track-record I better not promise :lol:
Anyways, I'm stoked about this new visitor. I think I know what species he/she is. We can play a new ID game as soon as I post them :D

Thanks as always for all the great info here.
I like the way your classroom is shaping up too Bill!
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Ralph just e-mailed me one of the pics, so here is a little preview: Click on it!

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Short (sorta) funny story to go with this:
Ralph and I had lowered the waterlevel in our birdbath to accomodate the little blue birds that I have in my yard (and that are not supposed to be wild birds), thinking they may like to take a bath but the water was too deep. Well, I have not yet seen them taking a bath.
So,.... when the hawk came yesterday, you can see in this pic that the waterlevel is down in the birdbath, and leaves and stuff was in water cause it was windy the day before. Ralph said that after the hawk left, he raced out there and put fresh water "to the brim" in the bath, just in case the hawk comes back.
I laughed saying "Yeah right, how lucky would that be?".
And boy, was I ever wrong. I am so glad Ralph changed the water, cause he came back today!!! I have not seen todays pictures yet either, but Ralph said it looks soo much nicer with the fresh clean water, and he thinks the hawk appreciated it also :lol: .
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BEA! Yeah! I can see yellow eyes, I think. How exciting and what a great pix. Did you read that there was a weird hawk scene above my house the other day? Red-tail call for sure..close and loud. I wonder if your guy was one in on it? All I could tell for sure on the 2nd visible raptor had very dark, black looking primary feathers and slender looking tail. Fairly certain the 1st visible raptor was a Turkey vulture, which I'm used to seeing. Never did see the RT that I'm "aware" of. :blink:

I think Bill is right in that we've got migrants in our neighborhood. Waiting for news on how big your bird bath is. Bill, the Cordon's are only about 4.75" long, I believe, from a website Bea and I both visit. Gives info on how to feed them. They're tiny guys.

Also, Bea: a couple of years ago I saw a Huell Howser on a local guy with raptors and he was way cool. Nice treatment and I had a highly positive reaction to it. I want to say the guy lived in Simi Valley, but not 100% sure on this. Anyway, it either eastern Ventura County or western Los Angleles county. Wish I could see that one again.
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Patti, yeah, too cool huh? I'm really excited about this new guy. And, yes, you see yellow eyes :lol: .
I did read about your hawk happenings. Very interesting! I've also wondered if we get a lot of migrants thru our area, as I have noticed more hawks that I hadn't seen before fly around in our area.
Also, remember the hawk with the missing feather(s)? I have not seen him in a long time. Hope he's okay.

Bill, not ignorance at all!! Actually it was presumptious of us to expect you to know who Huell Howser is. Huell Howser produces a lot of shows about California's nature, wildlife, people and just about everything that's here in California. Us locals really like his shows, cause there's always something to discover there. He's done his shows for a lot of years (like maybe 20 years or so???) Here is a link to his website

http://www.calgold.com/

I will measure the birdbath and little carved birds and post measurements with more pics!
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I'm a dunce. Bounced out of my reply about Huell and lost it. Glad you posted about him, Bea.

Your guy has so much coarse streaking that it seems like it would be a juvenile? Sibley's shows so many juvie's with that type of streaking that I'm now starting to generalize on that trait, which may not be good. The streaking appears to go to white in the lower (rump--wrong word) area.

The eyes are yellow, but the beak is black or looks black to me. I'm spinning my wheels cause it looks most like a Prairie falcon to me--at this point. Ask me in a few hours and I'll say no. But it kind of looks like that to me. OOops....WRONG EYE COLOR...would be that red color for Prairie falcon. Back to the books.
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I forgot I wanted to mention something else.
I was recently at Lake Casitas which is always full of Turkey Vultures and now the Herons seem to be coming back to make their nests etc... (BTW, Bill, thanks for the info on the Heron's earlier on this thread!)
Ojailala/Linda has previously posted some awesome pics of the Turkey vultures sunning/drying themselves on another thread (Chat - some days ago), and I soo wanted to get some pics like that also. Anyways, I didn't do as good as Ojailala, BUT, I saw a Turkey Vulture with wing-markers on it, which I had never seen before. I have a pic, but the sun was wrong, so you can't see if there is a number or anything printed on it. The marker was yellow. Will post pic later.
I did not know that Turkey Vultures were being tagged and/or banded. Do you know anything about that Bill? If I have time sometime (yeah right :blink: ) I will try to look into that some more. Just thought it was interesting.
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Patti,Jan 15 2008
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I'm a dunce. Bounced out of my reply about Huell and lost it. Glad you posted about him, Bea.

Your guy has so much coarse streaking that it seems like it would be a juvenile? Sibley's shows so many juvie's with that type of streaking that I'm now starting to generalize on that trait, which may not be good. The streaking appears to go to white in the lower (rump--wrong word) area.

The eyes are yellow, but the beak is black or looks black to me. I'm spinning my wheels cause it looks most like a Prairie falcon to me--at this point. Ask me in a few hours and I'll say no. But it kind of looks like that to me. OOops....WRONG EYE COLOR...would be that red color for Prairie falcon. Back to the books.

rofl rofl rofl Patti, you are soo cute!!

Wait till I post more pics before trying to ID it.

Now, since you are already at it, I will say what I think it is, and put my reasons for it down later (I am supposed to be at work :lol: :lol: :lol: ).
I think it is a juvenile Coopers :X: :X: :X:
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