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Chat - Monday, February 16, 2009; Another Cruzer Monday and Closer to Eggs
Topic Started: Feb 16 2009, 03:52 AM (2,942 Views)
SoCal Lady
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KAREN---All your photos are great of your trip to Julian. The photo of the Julian Cafe--brings back memories of the BEST HAM we have eaten in ourl ives. We have gone to Julian twice, stayed at the Julian Hotel both times, but opted for the Julian Cafe for breakfast each time, instead of the breakfast at the Hotel, which looked great but we loved the Cafe more and all the interesting photos on the walls and decor.

Thank you for taking us all along and most of all happy that you and DH had such a lovely time for your Valentine's/Anniversary celebration.

P.S. Your ducks looked like Cormmorants . Loved the turkeys! They are everywhere in the countryside there.

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:clk: Karen, thanks for taking all your buddies along on your trip... your pictures made me feel like I was with you... I would have been in that cemetery taking pictures... .... looked so interesting... loved the grey kitty.. nice picture... and nice get-away...
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We had early dinner .. the girls were wound up tighter than a clock... the rain keeping them inside all day... we finished the evening roasting marshmallows in the fireplace... and Sasha spilling my red wine all over the table.... like I said... lots of energy flowing tonight with the girls...Ojai had an amazing rainbow this afternoon... I only got a portion of it... did you see it Hiker???? will post pics tomorrow... when my computer comes home... I actually was thinking about Harpo and ES with the marshmallow thing... and how many they have consumed over their many years outdoors... :)^ :)^
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Fabulous Slide Show Karen, the snow falling was just gorgeous. Thanks for sharing your great time in Julian. :><:
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One of my giraffe shots-Posted Image
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ojailala
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Baby Elephant is adorable Jill and so is the giraffe.... <3
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Jill, your pictures of Africa are amazing! Thanks for sharing them with us.

Karen, Julian looks like a wonderful place for your getaway. I'm glad you had such a nice weekend.

The places we get to visit on this forum are simply incredible!
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<::: Bachelor is Starting See you in 2 hours Peeps :}^
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Thanks ladies! It is fun looking at all these slides again! It will take me some time to get them all scanned & from time to time I'll post some! One of these days I really need to tackle my Bald Eagle powerpoint-try to get 81megabytes into 4! :P That will take quite a bit of time & hopefully resizing 134 photos will fix it!
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Here's one of my Zebra pictures-Posted Image I like how it looks like a frame when it has scanned the slide! :D
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One of my cheetah & cubs pictures-Posted Image
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Artsy Mom,Feb 16 2009
10:50 PM

He was telling us about certain hands and what happened with the betting and how at some points he was very :unsure: what to do. In one case he went for broke on a Ace/Jack hand that normally wouldn't win, but he did win with it because the other player was doing an extreme bluff with an Ace/eight hand  :blink:  :blink:  :blink: 

Our friend is normally a conservative player but he says the people in this tournament are very big risk takers and they really don't care when they lose big pots  :wacko: so he has had to change up his play all along and is finding it very stressful.  He is actually really shocked that he is still in it !!!!  Oh and by the way, he told us that it is usually the younger players who just take everything to the max on nothing hands
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He sounds very much like me - I also am quite conservative in my play and I don't like to take wild risks just for the sake of gambling. Because of the type of tournaments I'm in I rarely make pure bluffs, because many of the players won't fold even when you're representing a much better hand than what they have. I see other players trying these fancy bluff plays that you see in these televised tournaments where you've got real pros, and this simply won't work - if someone isn't capable of folding, there's no point trying to bluff them. I do frequently like to semi-bluff - which is when you bet when you have a hand which probably isn't currently the best one, but has a good chance to improve before the last card. A semi-bluff is often a very effective play because it gives you two ways to win - your bet may cause your opponent to fold and give you the pot, and if they do call your bet you still have a decent chance to make the best hand.

When I play these relatively low stakes tournaments ($10 after all is not a huge amount) there are a lot of people who either don't really care or they're not terribly good players and will throw chips around with anything. Against wild loose players the best strategy is essentially to play very patiently, try to see as many flops as possible for cheap and try to trap players when you make a very strong hand. The good thing about such players is that they will also tend to have the weakness that they will continue to put their chips in the pot and be unable to realize something's wrong when you've got a better hand and start betting or raising their bets. So I play very conservatively and patiently early when the blinds are low, folding a lot of hands and trying to trap players out of large pots if an opportunity presents itself. As the blinds go up though you have to become more and more aggressive otherwise you can get blinded out of all your chips. The trick is knowing that fine line where it makes sense to take a big risk even if you don't have spectacular cards - and that line is always changing based on what type of players you're up against and what the situation in the tournament is. That's why poker is complicated :P

Now this strategy would just not work against a different class of player - really good professional players for example will realize when you're only playing very good hands and will know not to give you any chips when you start betting if that's what you're doing.

Your friend is right that although to a novice player AJ seems like a really good hand, to really top notch professional players it's exactly the type of hand they would be very reluctant to take a big risk with unless they're forced to. The reason is that although it beats a lot of hands, the very situations where solid players will be betting big will tend to be ones in where a hand like AJ is dominated (which translates to having one of the lowest chances of winning when all the cards are out).

But it's all relative to the situation - in these tournaments the blinds (forced bets) go up on a timed schedule, so at a certain point the blinds are so high relative to people's stacks that you have to be willing to gamble with hands that you wouldn't want to at the beginning. AJ would not be a hand you'd want to risk your whole stack on in the first hand of a tournament, but it can be a monster when the blinds are huge and there's only a few players left.

You can ask your friend if he's ever seen this Tony G video - at least he wasn't betting all his chips with KJ rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtE5Hx740Pc
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Jll how cool :clk: :)^
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Some of the children in Mombasa, Kenya-Posted Image
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Karen - enjoyed your pics of Julian and passing thru Ramona - Our son lived in Escondido for a while when his children were little - we used to drive down to visit from SB for weekend and went to Julian (in summer and fall) several times - didn't stay overnight but enjoyed the old, small town flavor - took the kids to a pumpkin patch there once - our daughter used to live in Ramona when her kids were small as well - first time we visited our daughter told my DH to take the loooonng route into Ramona - after traveling thru mountains with huge boulders - I finally said - "Where in the world do they live anyway." Found out later there is a highway that is much shorter that goes to San Diego - would probably have never visited these areas if our kids (at different times) had not lived there - remember seeing the horse drawn carriages too. Thanks for the memories.
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