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Chat - Monday, August 3, 2009; Good Morning Cruzers!
Topic Started: Aug 3 2009, 04:23 AM (1,370 Views)
Artsy Mom
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Naturegal,Aug 3 2009
11:44 AM
Penny - Doug's little reports are so heartwarming.  It gives us such a good picture
of what   goes on outside of the nest.
I took the photo below of Hope eating what Mom brought to the nest as mentioned
in Doug's report.

Carole I wish Doug had a super duper telephoto lens like Duane has so he could get us those up close and personal :clk: 's and/or videos of her adventures :D

Hope leaves the nest on a mission to get her parent to bring her lunch...
It doesn't take long :lol:

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Click on image for video by beans (1:38)
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Artsy Mom
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Total of 3 earthquakes now 5.8, 6.9 and 6.0 that could be felt as far as Phoenix :8O:
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harpo516
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awesome capture of hope

earthquakes :( :unsure:
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harpo516,Aug 3 2009
12:20 PM
awesome capture of hope

Thanks Deb. It is so much easier for me to get a good capture off a video than off the streaming cam feed as I don't have a capture program. I'm just using the built in camera on this Mac which takes three keys and then outlining to catch what you hope to get :P

I am very computer challenged but am taking a course from Apple next week on managing video etc. Hope I learn something :D
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From David Hancock this morning:

<::: RE: Sidney Chick -- Tiny Tink Faces Challenges but Few Options.

I realize some of you are concerned about the last and late leaving Sidney chick -- Tiny Tink. I am too.

Tiny Tink may well be a failure for a whole number of reasons, none of which really mean much individually. This whole phenomena of adults feeding chicks at the nest this late is not what I have observed in wilderness areas and seems peculiar to the urban/rural eagles -- as we have witnessed in other years. The fact Tiny Tink is still hanging around and his sibs have long left is not normal. However, while I do think that Tiny Tink is not in a good position, I do feel that he has to try and prove himself. That is by far the best option. He is doing what is right and best for him -- adding experience.

Sure the "normal" (if there is any normal any more for the urban eagles!) pattern is what his siblings did -- they relatively quickly left the nest territory after fledging and headed off to make a life for themselves. They have built into them, after thousands of years of nature's test, that flying north to find scavengable spawned out salmon is the way to go. Most do that. Tiny Tink hasn't yet cut the apron string with home. Maybe he does not have the full genes or is simply too low in energy or even perhaps has some handicap. I hope he leaves shortly and the quicker the better -- if we believe in the evolutionary insight.

As I have written elsewhere, we suspect that the huge extra wing width and length is there to assist this long soaring flight -- 500 to a 1000 miles north to that easy food supply -- the spawned out salmon. Dropping the body weight in those 8 -- 12 days (normal time) between fledging and leaving is probably an assistance to soaring light-winged on the updrafts -- and gliding a long way after each soar upwards. We know from satellite tagged birds that 300 miles a day journeying is to be expected -- that makes Alaska only two or three days away. A couple of days soaring and gliding and the reward of a salmon buffet -- not a bad incentive if you like dead salmon.

I just rescued one of OWL'S releases on Saturday -- the Yukon bald eagle released April 19 with the Golden eagle. I was able to run it down in the dump -- more than a mile from its release site. I first thought, from seeing the bird fly out of the corner of my eye, that it was dragging something. I stopped the car and walked up the hill to get a photo looking back at it with its prey. Then when I got in front of it I realized it was not carrying food but simply dragging its wing. This was confirmed as the bird again tried to fly -- as I approached to photograph its band. This flight was obviously going to be its last as it was struggling so badly. The bird was spunky and cleaver -- working back and forth across an open ditch of not so pleasant water in the dump. Between Karen and me we got it to sit still long enough that I could grab and wing and pin it down to avoid the talons.

At OWL, the inspection revealed that the right wing had been broken and set but not set perfectly functional. I suspect it looked normal in the release pen, flying the length during its evaluation period, but simply could not cut the mustard in the wild. The bird was not very thin and has probably been scavenging in the dump since release. Dump food cannot be the best food for a total diet. However, if I could run it down with my bad knees and feet, the bird could not fly very well! The point is eagles, rehab or wild, have to try and see what they can do in the wild. There is no great waiting list for rehab birds and the Wildlife Branch basically wants non-releasable birds put down. If they can learn to live in the wild then they have a chance. I called the Yukon people who sent her down originally in case they now had an educational program she could fit into but no luck. They do not have the facilities. I am trying to find another rehab center willing to take this bird but I am not very hopeful. That is a sad tale.

If Tiny Tink can make it in the wild, then he should be given every opportunity. If he doesn't then he will likely be picked up and put through rehab but that is a very last resort. Living in the wild, learning and trying is the best option as far as I can see at this moment. The very last resort is to bring Tiny in. The group is watching for that but as long as he is able to avoid being run down by one of us he is best left in the wild. At least that is my opinion. Rehab is a great last last hope, but except under a few circumstances, the bird already in the wild has the best chances to learn more wilderness survival skills. At this season there are no local salmon runs to dump him near to get him over the first 4 - 6 months. My position is that every day he is in the wild is a great day for learning "something". He may even draw on the past few thousands of years of his species success stories and head north. Let's hope he does. That is what he and we should be hoping for.

At this season this is a poor area to find 'scavengable food' -- but maybe he will learn something. The closest big salmon runs are still 500 + miles away. By Oct. -- Nov. some will be locally available. A few fish can be available in the local Goldstream River a little sooner. If he can't or doesn't try to make the long flight, let's hope he can hang in there for a couple of months. This is not a high likelihood but the best option I see at this time. Alternatively he will be picked up and processed through rehab -- and hopefully released with a second chance. But as we have seen with the Yukon bird this week, second chances don't always work. I am for giving him full options in the wild.

I appreciate your concern. We wish Tiny Tink well.

David Hancock

Ma Hornby delivers prey to Tiny in the old nest. He takes it to the new nest to eat it in private. He seems to be able to fly with his prey, so that is a GOOD thing :chk:

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harpo516
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going home :}^
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adklaurie
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Yup, me to :}^ :}^

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petra
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and i go to bed hahahaha

till tomorrow

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catM
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Rest well, Peetie. :Zz:
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harpo516
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night Peetie


Northern Channel Island update is posted :><:
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Great update from the Northern Channel. :)^

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:bday: :bday: :bday: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO Bubala, Dawnap, and Barbie43. :bday: :bday: :bday: May you special day was everything you hoped it would be.

My Aunt made Homemade Picked Watermellon Rind and we had it with Hot Dogs, and Cheese Burgers growing up in Jay, Florida! I buy it when I go to The Christmas In The South Fair in Ga. with my family YUMMO!

CatM don't be too hard on the boy. It took a LOT of talent to make that SandCastle.

Penny that is a beautiful Eagle. A juvie or a Golden??

5.8 6.9 6.0 All in the same area??? :huh: :o :unsure:
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Egads ive only been able to lurk here today! I am going nuts, more so than i am already, preparing for tomorrow night's photo excursion to see baseball. Ive had to charge my 4 NiMH batteries for two nikon bodies :clk: , clean lenses and sensors and unearth a couple filters i may want to use depending on how the sunset is tomorrow.

Hopefully one of my microfiber lens cloths will have dried by tomorrow too since i had to lux it. Final item is to decide which camera bag i will take. Id prefer not to take one but the super long zoom can be a problem hanging from around the neck and i dont think my health plan will pay for a neck brace until i have a neck injury... Maybe i should get one of those collars they put around plow horses instead? rofl

Great update this week from the NCI team! I wish i had the chance for shots like they get out there but ill have to settle for baseball tomorrow night instead. :X: The good thing is its not what they call a "business person's special" since it should be cooler at game time than at 1pm when the high is to be over 90 degrees :X:
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Odd obersvation here by me. Why is it that when we enter text in paragraph form, we can not indent the start of each paragraph?? Not sure but i think the MLA style sheet says a paragraph must be indented unless we are preparing a full block format business letter. Any english teachers out there??

The critter that purrs is spelled K-A-T aints it? and the one that goes "Woof" is spelt D-A-W-G aints it?? rofl
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catM
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George, rofl rofl rofl

I am going to have dinner and call it a night. Have a great evening, all.
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