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| ROH World Title Classic; Dayton, OH - 6/12/2004 | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 11 2005, 08:05 PM (615 Views) | |
| Stuttsy | Apr 11 2005, 08:05 PM Post #1 |
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1. The New Carnage Crew (Masada & Danny Daniels) vs. Dunn & Marcos - perfectly acceptable spotty little opener. Reminded me of Eliminators vs. Dudleys from Barely Legal, as this was more or less an exhibition for the new team of Masada & Daniels. Homicide forks some HWA guys who were allegedly getting a tryout match. No match as Homicide lays everyone out and promises to disrespect Ring of Honor later in the show. 2. Jimmy Jacobs vs. HC Loc vs. Rainman vs. Delirious vs. Matt Sydal vs. Caprice Coleman (Six Man Mayhem)- really fun scramble type match that was very smartly worked. The wonders of these type matches is the innovative ways they come up with isolating four of the guys so that two can finish logically. This was fun with a "Huss!"/"Blah!" mini debate between Jacobs and Delirious (I'm a sucker for that). Finish here was Jacobs going for the Contra Code (floatover sliced bread # 2 that Stephen O'Hara used on the rare occasions that he won a match) but Loc places him on the top rope to block, backchop, Loc climbs up but stupidly goes for a back suplex, which Jacobs wisely turns into a top rope Contra Code for the pinfall. Nice touch with the other four (previously taken down by a series of dives) all rushing the ring simultaneously to break up the fall but all falling short. 4. Generation Next (Alex Shelley, Roderick Strong, & Austin Aries) vs. Matt Stryker, Jimmy Rave, & John Walters. After two spotty matches in a row, Shelley wins my heart by immediately busting Styker open with a chain, Memphis-style. GenNext has as many innovative double and triple team moves as any team I've seen come along in years. Great workers. The fourth member of GenNext, Jack Evans, is buzzing around ringside until Walters powerbombs him all the way to the floor (flat back to the floor from Evans) to remove him from the equation. Story is that Jimmy Rave is on a losing streak and must win to save his job. However, the heels work a much smarter match than the gullible faces and Aries eventually forces Rave to tap with the Rings of Saturn. Good match. 5. Hydro w/ Becky Bayless (MMMM...) vs. Superstar Steve vs. Ray Gordy vs. Chad Collyer - only the finish is shown, which on ROH tapes usually tells you all that you need to know. Gordy is German suplexing everyone but Hyrdo catches Collyer off guard with a funky submission for the upset tap out (Collyer was at the time on his way out thanks to a TNA contract, but was back within six months). 6. Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk (ROH World Title Match) - Les Thatcher presents Joe with a new WORLD Title belt before the match. Fantastic match. Punk's uses the rope-a-dope on Joe, letting Joe throw everything possible at him but covering up at every opportunity. Punk keeps wearing the big man down for the first half or so and then Joe keeps trying for a big high impact move to incapacitate Punk in the second half. They are clearly pacing themselves to go 60 and that is certainly not a complaint, they'd be stupid not to. Tons of tide shifts and other little nuances that Mark Nulty brilliantly points out on commentary. GREAT final 15:00 or so minutes especially. They go to a 60:00 draw which led to the rematch in Chicago. After the match, Homicide cracks Joe in the head with a chair and steals the new World Title belt. ****1/2 range, I love this match. 7. The Prophecy (Danny Maff & BJ Whitmer w/ Alison Danger) vs. Second City Saints Colt Cabana & Ace Steel vs. Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Generation Next (Jack Evans & Austin Aries) (Ultimate Endurance Match) - neat concept as its an elimination match with each fall carrying a different stip (submissions only, scramble rules and anything goes, specifically). I'd just be a sloppy reviewer if I didn't mention how smokin' Alison looks tonight. The Briscoes KILL Jack Evans' back (playing off the power bomb straight to the floor from earlier) with all types of backbreakers and stretches. Whitmer tags himself in, a fight breaks out, Maff clears the ring of everyone but Evans and Whitmer secures a tap out with a Lion Tamer to win the submissions fall. Evans takes one hell of a beating. The Briscoes drop the scramble fall and it's down to anything goes between the feuding Prophecy and Saints. Crowd is surprisingly enthusiastic for the brawl despite having just seen a 60:00 match and despite some real gratuitious mic work from Cabana and Maff in the MIDDLE OF THE MATCH. Match isn't bad or anything, but virtually any match closing the show will seem anti-climatic coming off that 60:00 draw. Whitmer floors Steele with an exploder off the top through a table to take him out, setting up Maff KILLING Cabana with a head dropping burning hammer on the remains of the table for the pinfall, thus avenging the Saints taking out Prophecy leader Chris Daniels five months prior. Maff & Whitmer win all three falls, proving they could do it on their own all along and leading to a post-match promo where they dump Danger and officially drop the Prophecy name (logic!). Damn good show. ROH really shines on shows where they budget their time this way (long main events and keeping the spotty exhibitions relatively short). Thumbs up. |
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| whitemilesdavis | Apr 13 2005, 06:27 AM Post #2 |
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I appreciate the review, as I've got this show on the way. I would be curious as to your rating on some of the other matches. |
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| Stuttsy | Apr 13 2005, 12:56 PM Post #3 |
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I'm usually not one of those "assign a specific rating to every match" type guys because my enjoyment of the match a lot of times really depends on my mood (if I really feel like watching wrestling at that moment, was I surfing around online or doing other stuff while watching it, etc.) and I feel committed to a specific rating when I do that. But for the purposes of this exercise, these are a little bit arbitrary in that they're from memory rather than a fresh viewing of the show again, but, what the hell: New Carnage Crew d. Dunn & Marcos: *1/2 or so, maybe hinging on ** as it was basic but well executed Jimmy Jacobs d. Loc & Rainman & Caprice Coleman & Matt Sydal & Delirious: ** or so for good action though I'm not a big scramble fan generally, maybe a little higher if I watched it again. Generation Next d. Vanilla Babyface Calvary: *** Hydro d. Chad Collyer & Ray Gordy & Superstar Steve: N/A as it was only the finish Samoa Joe 60:00 curfew (I love that word) CM Punk: ****1/2-****3/4 depending on my mood, great match though Prophecy d. Generation Next & Briscoes & Second City Saints: **3/4 or so with some good action, good moments and a few down moments but not down so far that they drag the overall vibe of the match down too much for me. |
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| whitemilesdavis | Apr 13 2005, 01:02 PM Post #4 |
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Thanks. I'm really looking forward to the title match, but it looks like there is some other stuff there to get into as well. |
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| The Last Free Voice | Apr 13 2005, 02:21 PM Post #5 |
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I'm not around much anymore...
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I was there live, and I can saywithout Hyperbole that it was the best Wrestling show I've ever seen live. Punk vs. Joe was amazing, and all of us were Gassed by the end, but the UE match managed to stay fun. Colt and Ace were hilarious. Great great show. And I talked to Traci Brooks. |
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| Stuttsy | Apr 13 2005, 02:41 PM Post #6 |
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Mmmm, we should all be so lucky. |
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