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| WCW Monday Nitro - December 14, 1998; There is NO CONTEST, this rules... | |
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| jamiegeist | May 16 2005, 02:55 PM Post #1 |
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Poops McGee
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WCW Monday Nitro December 14, 1998 Tampa, Florida We open with a recap of last week's events leading to a 3 way dance between World Champion Golberg, Kevin Nash of the NWO-Wolfpac, and Bam Bam Bigelow. Show intro from the crew of Tony S, Larry Z, and Mike T, because I can't spell the first two last names. Another recap video, this time of the feud between The Giant and DDP, which features a very long promo by the Giant and a chairshot by Page. Finally a match at the 15 minute mark (which seems downright early by HHH standards), so here we go. Scott Putski v Raven Raven hits the ring and starts bitching about nobody loving him. Kanyon interupts and tells us how Raven was actually a spoiler Ivy League brat and how he had it too easy. Raven leaves, giving us a very WCW-like No Contest in the opener. No Contest Villano V v Eddie Guerrero My first markout moment as Eddie walks out in his LWO shirt, with some guy that I can't even recognize. Looks like a mexican Buff Bagwell or something. I'm not much for in match play by play, but this match was solid all the way through. Eddie with nice solid action, and some good matwork on the legs including a bridge-grapevine kind of move. Crowd pops nicely when Villano locks on a surfboard on Eddie. Mystery guy at rindside crotches Villano, and Eddie gets a superplex, followed by the Frog Splash for the win - but wait. Eddie refuses the cover, and the LWO (La Parka, Dandy, Silver King, Psicosis, Heavy Metal, among others) and they try to recruit Villano V...AND SUCCEED! Kickass. Eddie tells Bischoff they are "one more stronger." Rey stands on the apron, looking hesitant. Winner: No contest in 6:24 *** 1/2before that crap finish. They were clicking very well before that, but hey, it is WCW. Back to the announce booth with the Nitro Girls hanging out. Man, WCW did some stupid shit. Now they're inviting people to send in the Nitro Party tapes. Okay. That'll get you some chicks. These media files don't have any commercials or even cuts in them, so who knows if I'm seeing everything I should right now. Wrath v Al Green I'm leaning towards a possible finish here in this one. They're putting over the Meltdown as being an awesome finisher. Oh, back in the day when all you needed was a simple pumphandle to get you over. Al Green is of course, not the black soul singer of the 70's, and is just a cracker ass white boy. Wrath looks very un-Kronik here and is moving a bit. Tenay sounds really good on commentary here, proving that if he doesn't have to handle the entire play-by-play, he is an asset in the booth. Wrath sets up for the Meltdown and the crowd is indeed popping a bit, and a fair pop for the move itself and the pin. Winner: Wrath in 3:51 Recap now of the Flair-Bischoff feud, and I guess they'll be wrestling at Starrcade. We head to the ring and Mean Gene introduces Bischoff. Eric plays a great heel, and I actually hate him to where I want to fast forward. Thats kind of Triple H kind of hate though, so I dont know. He says nothing until Flair hits the ring in a fit of rage. Flair runs him off, so Gene calls Flair into the ring for an interview instead. Flair gives an awesome-as-usual promo, namedropping Eddie Graham, Dusty, Briscoes, Windhams, etc. Haha, Flair goes nuts here, dropping elbows, and actually runs into the corner and takes a Flair flip. It shows you how over-stuffed the roster was that Flair, looking great here, is wrestling Bischof -- oh shit. It's the Heart-Attack angle. I recall this briefly. Flair feigns a heart attack as Arn Anderson hits the ring and the announcers do their serious voices. This shit got so tired by that time that it wasn't even worth trying anymore. This is just going on forever here as Flair does a stretcher job while Tony does his "ummm, are we going to break now...what...what do we do" bullshit. Out of nowhere now, Scott Hall and Bam Bam are going at it in the back. Bigelow whoops his ass as Tony calls him "unstoppable." Tony actually says "what an incredible swing of emotion from scene to scene here, as we have Flair in the ambulance, and now Bigelow and Hall fighting." Way to put over that serious angle, calling it a "scene". Nash shows up, and he and BBB talk some shit before THEY'RE pulled apart. And Goldberg shows up too now. Yay. HOUR 2!!!! Tony announces an "impromptu, 3 man, triangle type matchup later tonight." That man is great with words. Geez, back into the ring with Mean Gene, as his guest is now Billy Kidman, Cruiserweight Champ. Do they wrestle on this show or not? I thought I remembered something about that. Kidman cuts a promo, and calls out Rey to settle things face to face without the LWO around. One thing of note...everyone's music SUCKS ASS in WCW. Nothing catchy, no big hit to start off. Just sounds like the same damn song playing over and over. Rey and Kidman in ring gear here, with Lil Naitch standing in the ring too...so a match may be approaching. And indeed, Kidman says lets have a match now with no interference. Here we go: Cruiserweight Title Match: Billy Kidman © v Rey Mysterio Jr. Now this is more like it. The crowd is pretty much killed thanks to the heart attack thing, but they're working hard. Rey goes for a top rope Rana but gets BK-Bombed from the top for a close 2 count just about a minute in. Flying cross body into the crowd by Rey, and they almost hit Wade Boggs. Weird. Rey with a top rope springboard something countered by a killer dropkick by Kidman. In true WCW fashion, they're talking about the heart attack the whole time, instead of the match. Rey with a near fall after a split-legged moonsault off the top. No pacing at all in this match, just spot to spot. Kidman picks up Rey and routinely hits an Emerald Fusion followed by a splash off the top. And hits a chinlock. It is refreshing however not to have commercials during the matches. I don't really get WWE's current (and quite longrunning) trend with that. Nice near fall with a sort of victory roll out of a powerslam attempt by Kidman. And the LWO hits the ring for the NO CONTEST~!~ Winner: No Contest in 7:40 Maybe ** before this. Crowd was dead, announcers weren't interested, and there was no flow. Spots hit though. Rey is tired of it, and he and Kidman start fucking up LWO members left and right. They eventually hit the ring in full force and lay them both out with Eddie overseeing. Wow, this group in the ring is incredibly talented, and I wish WWE had them all on Smackdown right now. Eddie beautifully finishes with a frog splash on BOTH Rey and Kidman as we cutaway. Recap now of BBB-Hall brawl, and Nash and Goldberg shit. Scratch that, it isn't a recap...it is a replay. The whole damn thing again. Jericho is out...with RALPHUS. Thank god. Someone came to save the show. Who the hell was Ralphus anyway and how did he get on TV? Tony has been babbling about Flair again through Jericho's whole entrance. Jericho starts talking about Konnan stealing his belt. I'll assume TV Title, but I'm guessing right now. Jericho is on here, and I long for these days before he became this stale-no impact-face. Jericho brings out "Exhibit A" which is some guy pretending to be Konnan, carrying a shovel. Jericho has a dry-erase board to show us exactly what happened. "Konnan" keeps emptying weapons out of his pants here as Jericho explains how he was robbed. I guess they're having a Starrcade rematch. Jericho then punks out the imitator, and slaps the lion tamer on him. Best segment so far I think. Tony again, returning from break, pretending like he is talking to someone in his headset. Laaaame. Nitro Girls dance, fans sit there. I'll be sure to add up all the actual wrestling by the end of this thing. I know we have one finish so far, and 3 wonderful no contests. Heenan has joined them at the booth, as we now have an upcoming match according to Tony. DDP v Bret Hart for the US Title later I guess. Meanwhile, this... Emery Hale v Barry Windham You have got to be kidding me. Windham is old and looking very West Texas Rednecks, and Hale is some jobber. Windham is sporting denim jeans and same-denim vest, with his gut hanging over his belt. I definitely don't know who the face is here, and neither is wrestling like one, with both yelling "who's the man" occasionally. Tony hasn't really called a single move yet, still blabbering about Flair. Windham finishes with a superplex from the middle rope. Winner: Barry Windham in 2:37 1/2* - nothing here, but nothing offensive. Hold the phone, as it is another match. Norman Smiley v Perry Saturn Saturn looks VERY gay, in a chain link vest, purple doo-rag, and shades. Smiley looks...white...somehow. At least there is some ounce of potential in this match unlike the last. They're talking about problems between Saturn and Sonny Ono, who I don't even recall ever hearing the name of. Match is boring, but they're at least trying or something. Saturn with a nice release German suplex while chicken winging one arm. Haha, Smiley does that big crazy bodyslam, and then the...Big Wiggle...is that what it was called? The Cat and I guess Sonny Ono, who I guess is the Cat's manager are here. Saturn cleans house, and the ref goes down. Cat kicks him in the face, a new ref is here, he sees all the interference and makes a quick count. What the hell. Smiley wins. Winner: Norman Smiley in 5:27 * I guess. Mean Gene back in the ring AGAIN...and he brings out Bret Hart. The crowd pretty much doesn't respond, and Bret's music is also pretty much non-existant as Tony is STILL putting over the Flair heart attack. Bret is playing heel here I guess, talking about taking out Savage, Sting, and Booker T. Bret notes that he is 3-time US Champ, and I really don't even remember one title reign. He gets the crowd somewhat riled up doing his best there is stuff. WCW's production values were always so weak. They go to this overhead crowd shot about 60 times an hour it feels like. DDP comes out, and gets jacked by the Giant. Bret can't believe it. Tony says it is a NWO Black and White set up, which I guess would imply that Bret is in the NWO? Man, I don't remember shit. Giant dismantles part of the set, and chokeslams Page onto some paper mache down on the floor. Oh no. HOUR 3! Or something! Wolfpac music hits as I finally know somebody's music. Konnan coming out with 2 black guys I guess. I don't know who they are. Tony is babbling about Disco Inferno wanting into the Wolfpac. I actually liked Disco, usually. And the classic NWO porn music hits, as Stevie Rey is coming out, accompanied by Booker. Konnan v Stevie Rey Very...sluggish. Wade Boggs on camera again. Stevie pulls out a slapjack, and Booker talks him out of it, so of course Konnan gets the pin from behind. Winner: Konnan in 3:12 DUD And a quick cut to commercial, and we see George Steinbrenner sitting with Warren Sapp in a luxury box. Weird. Bischoff is out. Somber. Playing the stupid sad voice, bad things happen on live tv shit. This is so weak and so lame. I can't believe how much wrestling used to be on TV in a week. 3 hours Nitro, 2 hours RAW, 2 hours Thunder, 2 hours Smackdown. Thats just the premeire shows. With all the recap shows, I bet we're nearing 18-20 hours of wrestling a week at this point. Just a strange observation. Bischoff apologizes for his actions, and Flair has a heart attack. Mean Gene once again, now welcoming Booker T...who was like, just out. This show is slapped together like a shitty ass mayonaisse sandwich. Stevie comes out to talk some sense into this Sucka. He leaves him an NWO Black and White shirt, and Booker leaves, puzzled. Now Raven's mom is here, wanting to see her son "Scott", and Kanyon is out to help. Wow this show is stupid. They walk off. Tony notes that "we're all drained...here at the booth, the fans, everyone." Very true Tony. Scott Hall is out with no music. He looks drunk, as if I needed to note that. Horace Hogan coming out now, to the NWO Black and White music. Okay, I guess Hall isn't in NWO Black and White, because he is facing Horace. Scott Hall v Horace Hogan I have no clue what is going on to be honest. Hall is wearing black/white/grey, so I don't think he is in the Wolfpac. Now he is mocking the Big Show, so who knows. Oh boy, shockingly, a stable hits the ring. NWO B&W out for the....yeah. Winner: No Contest in 6:07 * - Vincent, Scott Norton, Bryan Adams, Stevie Rey. Geez, this stable sucks. Here comes Disco Inferno wearing Wolfpac. Norton kills him with a powerbomb. And another quick cut, as something isn't quite right with this recording. Some strange music starts with FAAAAR OUUUUUT and I don't know who this is. Oh, Van Hammer, in tie-dye. Okay. And the NWO Black and White music again. Steiner and Buff Bagwell on their way down now. Van Hammer v Scott Steiner Oh, I guess no ref from WCW will do a Steiner match, so he brings his own NWO ref down, who is letting him do anything. This is stupid too. Steiner hits the recliner, and the 'ref' calls for the bell, and they actually ring it. What the hell. I thought Triple H making matches was stupid. Winner: Scott Steiner in 1:53 DUD - Steiner gets on the mic and gives a speech about toughening up the NWO Black and White. This ref guy looks familiar, but I'm not sure. Steiner calls out Lex Luger, to attempt to recruit him into the NWOBW. The present him with a shirt, and he leaves. Okay then. Good use of tv time. Cause nobody in WCW can NOT be in a stable. Triangle Match: Bam Bam Bigelow v Kevin Nash v Goldberg Not sure what the rules are to a "triangle match", and no one has bothered to tell us. Why is Nash a face and feuding with World Champion Goldberg? That makes no sense. They don't do the dressing room entrance for Golberg, thankfully. I always found that to be one of the lamest things in WCW (and then WWE). Nash stand there while Bam Bam and Goldberg go at it. Goldberg breaks out the CONCUSSION KICK!~ in Bam Bam's mug. They pretty much double team Goldberg the whole time. Spear on Nash, Spear on Bammer, and Scott Hall hits the ring. Hall, who wrestled face earlier, attacks the face World Champion. What the hell. No Contest in 6:01 DUD - Just brawling and shit. Bam Bam and Hall brawl off, and Goldberg and Nash single out in the ring. And they run out of time and end the show. Christ. Thoughts: I'm glad WCW died. That sucked. I can't believe they put 3 hours of that shit on TV every single monday night. There was nothing there. No angle development, nothing. The LWO was the only thing that felt like it was planned out and supposed to be happening, but it is boring and washed out because it is just ANOTHER stable of 10 guys trying to recruit more guys. Everything else was totally forgettable in the ring and out of it, and I can't even be bothered to total up No Contest's and wrestling times. Lame. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | May 16 2005, 02:59 PM Post #2 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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I'm so glad I gave up on WCW following Starrcade '97. Who in their right mind thought a THREE HOUR WRESTLING SHOW every week would bring more ratings and more buyrates for PPV's? If anything, that hurts a promotion. |
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| Erick Von Erich | May 16 2005, 11:40 PM Post #3 |
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I'm Big E and I tell it like it is
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I think Eddie's bodyguard was named "Spider" or maybe "Spyder". I don't believe he ever wrestled on WCW TV. Also, Heavy Metal wasn't in WCW....I'm thinking it's probably Juventud Guerrera. In fairness, WCW began to suck as soon as they started producing Thunder. They began to spread themselves too thin. Instead of 2-3 hours of fun matches and neat stories, they had to spread it out over 5 hours a week. That led to crap like Sick Boy vs. Barry Darsow, or Johhny Attitude vs. Kenny Kaos being on TV. Alot of people overlook the "Thunder effect", but I feel that's what really killed their momentum. Of note: my dad thought Flair's heart attack angle was REAL. He even wanted to send Flair a get well card. I told him "if you see it on TV, it's FAKE". When he found out that it was, in fact, just an angle a few weeks later, he was pissed and stopped watching WCW. He came back for the Goldberg-Nash finger poke show...but again was pissed off-- not at that match, he was pissed because he thought Goldberg really WAS getting arrested by the cops. I remember him saying "what're they doing messing with Goldberg like that?!" |
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| whitemilesdavis | May 17 2005, 08:05 AM Post #4 |
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Tha Nu Me
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Great review. Thanks for posting it. I always found that WCW stuff entertaining. It may have been the train wreck appeal, but something about it was fun for me. |
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| jamiegeist | May 17 2005, 11:40 AM Post #5 |
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Poops McGee
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Thanks to whoever fixed my tags. My brain hurt after that, so I didn't feel like it. And I agree that WCW was fun....but only like the first hour...then I began just wondering what in the hell they were doing. And Mean Gene must've had like 8 interviews on this show. It just felt sloppy and stupid. I actually was really liking WCW when they closed down, with the exception of Steiner being on top. They brought in some kickass talent near the end (Styles, Air Paris, Kid Romeo, Skipper, Storm's big run) but of course they were doing all this in the undercard while they killed the top of the card. It is definitely weird to see a roster SOO full compared to the RAW and Smackdown rosters, which feel like they have about 10 guys each on them. We have honestly exhausted every combination of matches on the current shows, I believe. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | May 17 2005, 11:44 AM Post #6 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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I felt the same way. With WCW PPV's from 1998-2000, I would enjoy the hell out of the first 45 minutes-hour, then slowly get more and more bored until I stop the tape and toss it into the Pile of Misfit Tapes. |
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| Mad Dog | May 22 2005, 11:50 AM Post #7 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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WCW still had worthwhile things going on until the fall of 98. You still had the cruisers kicking around and Jericho's stuff was brilliant. Heavy Metal was probably Damien or Halloween. |
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