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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 6 2005, 04:57 PM (481 Views) | |
| The Swigg Lebowski | Oct 7 2005, 05:43 PM Post #16 |
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Current Two Time DWB Champion
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Kind of like how you were bunched up with a bunch of guys who stood no chance of winning in the DWB Best Poster tournament, right? Back off, Punk is a good heel. As a matter of fact, I'll say he's a great heel. And I'm not some goofy Punk mark either. I honestly think he's earned his stripes and learned how to piss of a crowd the same way that The Dudleys did in ECW. |
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| Viceroy Virus | Oct 7 2005, 06:59 PM Post #17 |
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The Return of Andre "The Fucking" Giant!
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The first RoH stuff I saw was the first Death Before Dishonor, which was during the Punk/Raven feud. Being the Raven fan I am, I wanted Raven to win over some indy guy I didn't know. Some of the promo stuff I saw from Punk on that DVD made me think to myself, 'Who the hell does he think he is? ...And trying to call-out Raven like that; yeah, right.' and wanted Raven to beat him. And then later on I thought to myself, 'Wait. That guy pissed me off, and wanted him to lose.' He got me. Punk got me. And then I rewatched the DVD and noticed how creative his promos were and how his character got to the crowd, and realized he was a good heel. I like him now because I like his in-ring style and his ability to cut creative and imaginative promos, it's almost like he's a story-teller when he gives a promo. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Oct 7 2005, 07:02 PM Post #18 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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I didn't create that poll and you know it, Swigg. :P I still don't think Punk should be bunched in with legendary heels. It's not even close. If you are going to tell me Punk is a better heel than (for example) Harley Race or Ric Flair, I'd have to give you a good tongue lashing. |
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| Viceroy Virus | Oct 7 2005, 07:05 PM Post #19 |
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I actually thought these polls where the most part were going to be close. Besides, whoever gets the most votes in this poll, basically, advances to a final poll at the end. In all actuality, I should've seen Race getting the most votes for this one, but he might not in the next poll when we put the winners together from other polls. At this going rate, I looks like it'd be the equivalent of Race/Capt. Lou Albano/Bossman in the next one. Although I might not set-up the polls that way either. B) |
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| dynamite kido | Oct 7 2005, 09:05 PM Post #20 |
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Harry Reems is my hero.
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Here's the thing about Punk being a heel though that actually gives Scrooge the right point here IMO. Punk is a very good heel. Yet, he hasn't sold one PPV buy or drawn any sort of a decent indy crowd because of him being a heel. So in short............he's a good heel on the indy level, nothing less, nothing more. |
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| SamoaRowe | Oct 7 2005, 09:05 PM Post #21 |
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Punk was a part of getting me to buy TNA ppvs back in their weekly format :( |
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| dynamite kido | Oct 7 2005, 09:07 PM Post #22 |
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Harry Reems is my hero.
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...........and I wouldn't even consider him to be a "good" heel in TNA. |
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| The Swigg Lebowski | Oct 8 2005, 12:14 PM Post #23 |
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That's like HHH & HBK saying he can't work because his five minute match wasn't what they thought it should be. You could argue that Steiner wasn't a good heel, he was just a careless asshole who would've been censored in any other situation. We're not comparing the situations they've been in, just whether or not they're a good heel, and who's the best. I actually voted for Bossman. I'm just saying that Punk is a good heel. Is he a Yokozuna or a Bossman? That depends. But he is a good heel nonetheless. |
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| dynamite kido | Oct 8 2005, 04:08 PM Post #24 |
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Harry Reems is my hero.
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It's not like that at all. I could say that I'm the best heel of all time, but none of you have ever seen me do it. The situations that they've been in are the most important when you talk about the effectiveness of a heel or face. If someone can work.........it shows when they are in the ring, but heel/face dynamic is DEPENDENT on the reaction of crowds and how badly people want to see them get their ass kicked. I said that Punk was a good heel in ROH, but that doesn't mean that he will ever be a good heel elsewhere. I would say though that Punk/Race's heelwork would have worked anywhere on the planet though. So that would be the major difference. |
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| Viceroy Virus | Oct 8 2005, 08:32 PM Post #25 |
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I think it's funny that out of all the heels were debating, we're dabting between Punk and Race, two wrestlers who are probably best friends in real life. I wouldn't doubt if Race taught Punk some of his stuff, and Punk kind of turned it into his own in RoH. |
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| Viceroy Virus | Oct 12 2005, 03:28 PM Post #26 |
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Bossman takes this poll. |
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