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OAO TV Thread: September
Topic Started: Sep 3 2006, 04:04 PM (1,176 Views)
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Ok, so the catfight did suck, but the worst part was definitely Rene Dupree's promo
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I chose to watch a rerun of South Park over ECW. I caught bits of RVD/Holly between commercials and liked what I saw. And I saw the CM Punk/Knox bit. I swear, usually I can watch Raw and Smackdown as a fan and enjoy it for what it is, but I have trouble watching ECW and not imagining all the things I would change if I had control.
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I think ECW's 50/50. You'll get really good stuff, and then you get Rene Dupree.

In my opinion, the booking is so much smoother than Raw or Smackdown. It seems to flow better.
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TheBigSwigg,Sep 27 2006
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I think ECW's 50/50. You'll get really good stuff, and then you get Rene Dupree.

In my opinion, the booking is so much smoother than Raw or Smackdown. It seems to flow better.

I think the flow seems better because the show's only an hour.

It's funny because I think Raw and SD would be a better show if it was only and hour, yet I think TNA would be better with two hours.
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If nothing else, I've enjoyed ECW so far. It's not spectacular, and Rene Dupree confused the shit out of me last night, but it's still fun to watch.
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dynamite kido,Sep 27 2006
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TheBigSwigg,Sep 27 2006
07:55 AM
I think ECW's 50/50.  You'll get really good stuff, and then you get Rene Dupree. 

In my opinion, the booking is so much smoother than Raw or Smackdown.  It seems to flow better.

I think the flow seems better because the show's only an hour.

It's funny because I think Raw and SD would be a better show if it was only and hour, yet I think TNA would be better with two hours.

I don't think the hour is the difference maker. In the past, RAW and Smackdown both flowed pretty well with the 2 hour timeslots. What I've seen of RAW the past few weeks, though not good, has flowed fairly well. I think the main difference is focus. ECW seems to be more wrestling focused, and not as much entertainment focused. RAW and Smackdown seem to lean towards entertainment. If Raw and Smackdown were cut down to an hour, I don't think there would be any wrestling on the shows.
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Well, one thing I would change about ECW, is that whenever someone from Raw or Smackdown gets dumped into ECW, their entire character/gimmick would be overhauled. For example, they had the right idea with having Matt Striker going after Sandman with a stapler, but Striker is playing the same goofy, cartoonish teacher character that he was on Raw. I would not have changed the stapler attack, but I would have overhauled Striker into more of a sleazy looking teacher figure, with a cheap suit, basically the type of jerk teacher that you could really hate. Right now he's just playing a stereotypical teacher who happens to be an arrogant heel. That's boring.

With Rene Dupree, he would not be playing the worthless smiling French guy gimmick that Sylvan is already playing on Smackdown. I don't know really how to make people take him seriously, but what they are doing is not working. The best Dupree stuff that I can remember was his mid-card push on Smackdown two years ago, where he got to do a couple bad-ass things, like putting Cena through the announce table.

I guess that's the thing, ECW is just far too goofy in a non-edgy way. Kevin Thorn is a silly gimmick, but the way he does it makes him across as menacing. That is working. CM Punk is playing the straight edge character in a babyface way, which is working. And Shannon Moore is jobbing again, which is fine for his Hot Topic gimmick.

Also, if I were in charge, Tommy Dreamer would have absolutely murdered Knox or Test in a match by now to the point where assault charges could have been filed. Think about how much more compelling Test would be if he had been beaten so badly and violently that now he wants nothing more than revenge instead of "I fight Dreamer and Sandman every week because old ECW is bad."
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I can agree with that, Rowe. As a matter of fact it's my biggest complaint. I hated when Hardcore Holly came out to the same old music he's had for 5 years +. I hate that Rene Dupree still looks like he's on the roids, and is one French Poodle away from Smackdown. But with what's been given, I think Heyman and crew have done a decent job.
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TheBigSwigg,Sep 27 2006
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dynamite kido,Sep 27 2006
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TheBigSwigg,Sep 27 2006
07:55 AM
I think ECW's 50/50.  You'll get really good stuff, and then you get Rene Dupree. 

In my opinion, the booking is so much smoother than Raw or Smackdown.  It seems to flow better.

I think the flow seems better because the show's only an hour.

It's funny because I think Raw and SD would be a better show if it was only and hour, yet I think TNA would be better with two hours.

I don't think the hour is the difference maker. In the past, RAW and Smackdown both flowed pretty well with the 2 hour timeslots. What I've seen of RAW the past few weeks, though not good, has flowed fairly well. I think the main difference is focus. ECW seems to be more wrestling focused, and not as much entertainment focused. RAW and Smackdown seem to lean towards entertainment. If Raw and Smackdown were cut down to an hour, I don't think there would be any wrestling on the shows.

That's exactly what I meant though. I think if they had less time they would be forced to focus. I've seen too many Raw's and SD's that feel like it's 2 important things and just filler for the rest of the show.
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dynamite kido,Sep 27 2006
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TheBigSwigg,Sep 27 2006
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dynamite kido,Sep 27 2006
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TheBigSwigg,Sep 27 2006
07:55 AM
I think ECW's 50/50.  You'll get really good stuff, and then you get Rene Dupree. 

In my opinion, the booking is so much smoother than Raw or Smackdown.  It seems to flow better.

I think the flow seems better because the show's only an hour.

It's funny because I think Raw and SD would be a better show if it was only and hour, yet I think TNA would be better with two hours.

I don't think the hour is the difference maker. In the past, RAW and Smackdown both flowed pretty well with the 2 hour timeslots. What I've seen of RAW the past few weeks, though not good, has flowed fairly well. I think the main difference is focus. ECW seems to be more wrestling focused, and not as much entertainment focused. RAW and Smackdown seem to lean towards entertainment. If Raw and Smackdown were cut down to an hour, I don't think there would be any wrestling on the shows.

That's exactly what I meant though. I think if they had less time they would be forced to focus. I've seen too many Raw's and SD's that feel like it's 2 important things and just filler for the rest of the show.

Honestly, I don't have enough faith in the writing for RAW and Smackdown to improve like that. I think the only reason ECW turns out like it does is because Heyman is backstage driving Vince nuts.
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I have to admit, watching AM Raw is usually more fun than watching the full version.
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TheBigSwigg,Sep 27 2006
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dynamite kido,Sep 27 2006
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TheBigSwigg,Sep 27 2006
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dynamite kido,Sep 27 2006
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TheBigSwigg,Sep 27 2006
07:55 AM
I think ECW's 50/50.  You'll get really good stuff, and then you get Rene Dupree. 

In my opinion, the booking is so much smoother than Raw or Smackdown.  It seems to flow better.

I think the flow seems better because the show's only an hour.

It's funny because I think Raw and SD would be a better show if it was only and hour, yet I think TNA would be better with two hours.

I don't think the hour is the difference maker. In the past, RAW and Smackdown both flowed pretty well with the 2 hour timeslots. What I've seen of RAW the past few weeks, though not good, has flowed fairly well. I think the main difference is focus. ECW seems to be more wrestling focused, and not as much entertainment focused. RAW and Smackdown seem to lean towards entertainment. If Raw and Smackdown were cut down to an hour, I don't think there would be any wrestling on the shows.

That's exactly what I meant though. I think if they had less time they would be forced to focus. I've seen too many Raw's and SD's that feel like it's 2 important things and just filler for the rest of the show.

Honestly, I don't have enough faith in the writing for RAW and Smackdown to improve like that. I think the only reason ECW turns out like it does is because Heyman is backstage driving Vince nuts.

I don't have the faith in them either. That's why this would be better for them, because they would have to do LESS effective stuff in an hour's time than they would have to for a 2 hour show.
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Lots of good points on the WWECW. For every good thing, like the RVD/Holly match this week, you have nonsense like RENE DUPREE babbling on about nothing and Shannon Moore tanking the talent pool by being himself... a suck ass loser who couldn't get over in TNA.
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TheGreatWhiteChoate,Sep 27 2006
12:57 PM
If nothing else, I've enjoyed ECW so far. It's not spectacular, and Rene Dupree confused the shit out of me last night, but it's still fun to watch.

That promo made no sense.Was he trying to say that his genitals are extreme? ...With barbed wire and thumbtacks?
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prof_plague,Sep 29 2006
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TheGreatWhiteChoate,Sep 27 2006
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If nothing else, I've enjoyed ECW so far. It's not spectacular, and Rene Dupree confused the shit out of me last night, but it's still fun to watch.

That promo made no sense.Was he trying to say that his genitals are extreme? ...With barbed wire and thumbtacks?

First you'd have to assume Dupree has genitals. Or was a real wrestler.


I'm not willing to assume either.
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