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Worst Suffering Fans in Sports?
Topic Started: Sep 1 2010, 05:22 PM (820 Views)
Scrooge McSuck
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I was thinking about this after looking over the standings for MLB and just having an interest in just how bad teams can play over the course of an entire season.

Simple question: Which teams' fans have had it the worst over the years? Could be franchise history wide, a streak active as of now, or whatever other rules you'd want to make up. Here's my choices...



MLB:

Pittsburgh Pirates - This was an easy one. While not nearly one of the "elite" teams in baseball history, they have their history of memorable players and World Series rings, but ever since losing to the Braves in the 1992 ALCS, it seems like the wagon not only lost all it's wheels, but caught fire, and the ash remaining from that fire has been pissed on by just about everything that has walked by it. As of this writing, September 2010, they have to be in about their 8th or 9th rebuilding phase, have gone through countless managers, and nothing seems to be working right.


Honorable mention goes to the Chicago Cubs. Maybe if the fans weren't so obsessed with themselves and their curse, I'd care more, but much like with the Red Sox pre-2004, it kinda' makes me cheer against them winning, just because of it.



NBA:


San Diego/Los Angeles Clippers - In the three decades(ish) of this franchises existace, I think they might've made the playoffs 3 or 4 times (never going deep, either), have always had a hard time attracting top of the line free agents, and seem to have made terrible draft picks despite being in the top spots of the draft order for the better part of the last 20 years. When Sports Illustrated is running covers with fans with bags on their heads, somethings wrong.


Honorable mention to the New York Knicks, post-Ewing trade. I can't believe how far this team has fallen from glory. The Knicks are like a fantasy team drafted by a 13 year old with no knowledge of how to construct a roster that can compete in real life. Centers under 6'8", a whole bunch of shooting guards, and trading the one bright spot on the team for whatever reasons. Way to go Knicks, way to keep your fans happy.



NFL:

Cleveland Browns - Ever since I've watched sports, the Browns have always been the butt of jokes for their lack of success. A Perenial loser every year. Years they had winning seasons were crushed thanks to last minute comebacks from John Elway. The team is moved to Baltimore, then brought back in Expansion at the end of the century, with the same results. They had a winning season a few years back, then fell right back into their usual hell.


Honorable mention to the old Baltimore Colts, for the obvious reason.



NHL:

Sadly, I don't follow the NHL enough to know. I do hate how teams were being moved around like crazy throughout most of the 90's. Quebec to Colorado, Winnipeg to Phoenix, Hartford to Carolina... All the expansion into California and Florida (and Tennessee). Although I do occasional watch the Lightning play, I'm a Rangers fan, and have never liked hockey being played in incredibly warm weathered climates. If you want an out-door game, you could never do it.
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The Clippers at least know that their team is there to make the owner money, the Pirates are just starting to figure it out.

It's a tough call, really, because all the teams have had at least a little bright spot here and there. The Cubs and Browns have diehard fans that almost enjoy the fact that they're losers. The Pirates just recently disclosed that they've been MAKING money in spite of their losing, and the Royals and A's fans don't really seem to care either way.

I'd throw the Lions fans in the mix, because they really seem to want to win while not being able to hire a decent front office.
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The thing about the Cleveland Browns is that after they left to become the Ravens, the "new" Browns were given a sweetheart stadium deal. Now, Browns fans not only have a shitty team, but they're (literally) paying even more for it.

Also, Cleveland's dreams were only mangled and crushed once by Elway in AFC title games (1986 and The Drive). The next year (1987) Ernest Byner did the crushing all on his own with The Fumble (or The Fumble Recovery if you want to give Jeremiah Castille some pub).

In 1989, the Browns really had no business being in the title game, were blown out, and the game was over by halftime. The "real" AFC title game had been played a week earlier when the Broncos snuck by Merrill Hoge and the Steelers.

Browns fans just like to hate Elway because he's a very polarizing figure-- with his gimpy leg, stupid haircut and toothy grin (and yes, Terry Bradshaw was right, he really had been pampered by the media)--- you either love or hate the guy.

Howabout the cross-state Bengals? They've had their share of shitty moments. See two Super Bowls lost to Joe Montana, plus weird shit like missing the extra point with 3 seconds left to lose a game.


I'm not an NBA follower, but how do Nuggets fan rank? They've never even been to the Finals. While they've had good records, they just seem to get beat in the playoffs and don't necessarily have those Heartbreaking Moments.

Howabout Jazz fans? They seemed to have annual heartbreaks in the 90's with Stockton and Malone losing to someone like the Blazers or Lakers every year.
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The thing with Browns fans and Elway is that Browns fans tend to double as Ohio State fans. And Ohio State fans still remember Elway leading Stanford over OSU in the early 80s and I think costing them the Rose Bowl.

Anyways:

NBA:

LA Clippers and Golden State Warriors. Notorious shitty owners leading to years of not competing.

MLB:

Pittsburgh Pirates.

NFL:

Here's why it's not the Cleveland Browns. The team hasn't been successful since it's come back but the franchise has a legacy and a history that isn't rivaled by many teams. Sure, Tampa Bay may have won a Super Bowl but they will never, NEVER, have the history or legacy of the Cleveland Browns. I'm not going to pick the Browns here though.

The Minnesota Vikings. Here is a team that just downright tortures their fanbase with choke jobs. Four horrible losses in NFC Championship games to inferior teams. This is a team that walked into a gimme Conference Championship against a mediocre NY Giants team and got handed a 41-0 loss in 2000. That is a franchise that tortures it's fanbase.

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I'd also take the Bengals off the board because Bengals fans, and Cincy fans in general, are mostly bandwagon fans.
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Agreed with Swigg on the Bengals. I had them as an option, but then realized their fans are jerks.

Completely skipped my mind about the Golden St. Warriors. I honestly can't remember the last time they've done anything worth remembering. Even in sucking, they're forgetable.
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The Royals in baseball have to be added

They were great when I was a kid just starting to watch baseball in 1977, but have sucked for the last 20 years

Pirates absoultely belong there

Football:

As much of a Jets fan as I am, they have not won the SuperBowl in over 40 years. Which means i never saw it since I am 40 years old.

Bills have been horrible since they lost the 4 consecutive Super Bowls in the early 90s, so that's over 15 years of pathetic football

Basketball

Clippers absolutely.......Nuggets and Hawks were horrible for many years until the last few...........The Kings sucked when I was a kid (when they were the Kansas City Kings were good for several years and have sucked again the last 7-8 years)

Hockey

The Islanders have been atrocious the last 10, they were great in the early to mid 80s but for the last 25 mediocre at best

And my team the Rangers, one Stanley Cup victory in 70 years?

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A few comments for your choices...


The Bills deserve it for losing four Super Bowl's in a row, period. I'm not sure, but didn't Denver pull off a run of 3 SB losses in a 4 or 5 year span?

As for the Rangers (NHL), that one Stanley Cup was worth it. It was the championship that had to happen for a franchise, and it was an epic playoff run that year, too.
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Scrooge McSuck,Sep 20 2010
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The Bills deserve it for losing four Super Bowl's in a row, period. I'm not sure, but didn't Denver pull off a run of 3 SB losses in a 4 or 5 year span?

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It was 3 losses in a 4 year span.
1986: clubbered by NY Giants
1987: clubbered by Washington Redskins (despite being the favorites)
1988: took a year off and let the Bengals and 49ers play a somewhat decent Super Bowl
1989: clubbered by the San Francisco 49ers

The 1987 team looked like a franchise team, but the others were just John Elway and a whole lotta' nothing. Sammy Winder? Rulon Jones? Clarence Kay? Ricky Nattiel? Unless you're a Bronco fan, you don't know those names. The 1989 looked exciting with rookies Bobby Humphrey and Steve Atwater, but they were demolished by the juggernaut 49ers that year.


The Bills had the unprecedented 4 straight losses (to NY, WAS, DAL and DAL) from 1990-1993. They also had the "Music City Miracle" happen to them in the '99 playoffs. The questionable lateral from Frank Wycheck on the last second kick-off return.

The tough thing about Buffalo was that they really did look like competitors going into all 4 Super Bowls in the 90's (well, maybe not the second loss to Dallas...at that point everyone wanted them to just go away).

They were full of Hall of Famers and great players: Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Bruce Smith, James Lofton, plus coach Marv Levy. Then guys like Cornelius Bennett, Daryl Talley and Andre Reed. I can't remember their names, but they had some good d-backs as well (not named Mark Kelso..although he was above average). The annual Pro Bowl rosters were usually stacked with Bills. Then don't forget Frank Reich and the big comeback from being down 28-0 against Houston in the '92 playoffs.

With the collection of talent and big wins they had, it was sad that they weren't able to win at least one Super Bowl. The 1990 Scott Norwood Super Bowl was really heartbreaking. If you're that close, you just have a feeling that you can do back and win the next year. But they kept going back and it got worse.
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It was 3 losses in a 4 year span.
1986: clubbered by NY Giants
1987: clubbered by Washington Redskins (despite being the favorites)
1988: took a year off and let the Bengals and 49ers play a somewhat decent Super Bowl
1989: clubbered by the San Francisco 49ers


I almost forgot, that on top of losing three times in such a short span, all three losses weren't even close. I think the SB versus New York was a decent game at halftime, but then the Giants errupted and made it a laugher.


As a kid, the Buffalo Bills Super Bowls were some of my earliest memories of being a front runner (for a while, Jim Kelly was my favorite QB in the NFL), especially against Dallas. Naturally, I was only 4 at the time of the Super Bowl with the Giants, so I don't recall anything from that one. I make mention of this, being a Giants fan since as long as I can remember.

Fucking Super Bowl against Baltimore...
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The Bills were favored in Super Bowl 25, even (1990 against the Giants). Sure, they had LT, but the Giants also had such luminaries as Odessa Turner, Jeff Hostetler, a 65 year old Otis Anderson and a 115 lbs Dave Meggett. People felt that the Giants had blown their wad by sneaking past the 49ers in the NFC title, so Buffalo would easily eat them up.

You're right about Giants-Broncos. It was close at half. Something like 10-9, Denver.

Super Bowl 22 (Broncos vs Redskins) was 10-0 Denver in the first quarter. Which made it extremely painful when the Skins broke all sorts of records and went into the half with a 35-10 lead. There were a LOT of accusations that the Broncos had thrown the game, or that the whole thing was a fix. With the way the Donkeys collapsed in the second quarter, it was tough to argue against that.

Super Bowl 35--- Giants/Ravens-- all I remember about that game was the two big kick returns and thinking "how much longer until Survivor comes on?" The big joke going around was that the Super Bowl was being somewhat overshadowed by the season premiere of Survivor, which aired right after it.
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Scrooge McSuck,Sep 20 2010
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As for the Rangers (NHL), that one Stanley Cup was worth it. It was the championship that had to happen for a franchise, and it was an epic playoff run that year, too.

I am a Rangers fan, though hockey is my least favorite by far of the 4 major sports

I remember the '94 run well. I was in my mid 20s and at the time lived less than a mile from MSG. (have lived in Brooklyn most of my life, but lived in manhattan when I first moved out from home). The midtown westside bars were packed for all the games.


It was a great time for me in sports, that end of spring/early summer run. Italy made the World cup finals (I'm Italian), Knicks made the NBA finals and Rangers won the whole thing
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Erick Von Erich,Sep 20 2010
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Scrooge McSuck,Sep 20 2010
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The 1987 team looked like a franchise team, but the others were just John Elway and a whole lotta' nothing. Sammy Winder? Rulon Jones? Clarence Kay? Ricky Nattiel? Unless you're a Bronco fan, you don't know those names.

Jets fan here. Winder is the only one I remember from the 4 you mentioned
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Nattiel's always a good trivia question, since he was the third member of the (shitty and over-hyped) "Three Amigos".

Kay was mostly famous for his multiple run-ins with the law, during his days on the team from about 1985-1991. When everything even vaguely Bronco-related was reported on in 1998, a story broke about how Kay had watched Super Bowl 32 from the Denver County Jail.

Jones was pretty damn awesome in 1986. I think he even recorded a safety in the 1986 playoffs against New England. He was actually the Broncos all-time sack leader until Karl Mecklenburg and Simon Fletcher both passed him in the 90's (Fletcher's still #1).

Jones is best remembered around my neck of the woods for something else, though. Circa 1985, there was a brawl on the field. Jones was standing on the sidelines, but paused to PUT HIS HELMET ON, then entered the fight with all guns blazing.
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