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| Scrooge McSuck | Dec 16 2012, 08:57 PM Post #361 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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I compltely forgot about that part of the build up. Just watching the SNME match doesn't help the old memory bank, other than the "Vince is pointing out the obvious" stuff on commentary about Sid turning heel. I always wonder how long in advance WWF knew Hogan was taking an extended break after WrestleMania VIII. It didn't factor into any of the build up until the last month or so. |
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| Erick Von Erich | Dec 17 2012, 08:28 AM Post #362 |
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I'm Big E and I tell it like it is
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I wonder as well. Sid was still getting babyface heat, so they had to put him with Harvey Whippleman and make him do MEAN THINGS to get him over as a heel. Like demolishing the Barber Shop and breaking Virgil's nose. If it hadn't been announced as "Hulk Hogan's Final (?) Match", fans might've approached it differently, too. I was into the "final" stuff and it felt natural that Hogan would go against a bad guy for his final send-off. Without that little tidbit, Sid would've been a 'tweener and possibly getting some "Demolition 1988 heat". The period from "Tuesday in Texas" to WM8 was probably my favorite era of the WWF. Compared to how they had always done stuff, this was a very unconventional time for them and it made it fairly exciting. Flair was ruffling feathers everywhere, Piper unexpectedly won the IC title (a day after Da' Mountie had done the same), the WWF title was vacated due to Hogan's shenanigans, Jake the Snake was being EVIL, Macho Man was coming back, etc. Heck, even Shawn Michaels' pending heel turn added to it. After WM8 it kinda' went down the toilet, though. Hogan, Sid and Jake the Snake all left and Piper disappeared. Even with Warrior coming back, that really thinned out the title picture. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Dec 17 2012, 02:10 PM Post #363 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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I'd like to throw in turning Undertaker face kind of killed some of his appeal. For once, the unstoppable heel really came across as such, but once he turned, everyone just stole his urn. This happend consistantly until the end of 1996. That's a lot of rehashing the same thing. |
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| Erick Von Erich | Dec 17 2012, 05:11 PM Post #364 |
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I'm Big E and I tell it like it is
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Undertaker's whole face turn didn't really make a lot of sense. Remind me, WHY did he suddenly decide he didn't like Jake the Snake? He didn't like that Jake was messing with Liz and Macho? But wasn't 'Taker part of the whole "wedding snake bomb" that was tacked-on after SummerSlam '91? They had sort of a unique situation with 'Taker going into WM8. But after that, they booked him as just another babyface. Feuding with Berzeker, then teaming up with Warrior in house show tag matches. By the end of '92 he had his own division: "The Undertaker Division", which was just him fighting weirdos until early 1997. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Dec 30 2012, 12:01 PM Post #365 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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Is it against the rules of wrestling for anyone in WWE to teach their female performers how to properly do a sunset flip? The whole point is to pin the arms down with the legs, otherwise it looks pointless. What's keeping the shoulders down? The preasure of holding your own legs up in the air? |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Jan 5 2013, 05:56 AM Post #366 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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I never bothered to really notice this before, but saw something funny at WrestleMania VII: Gene Okerlund is doing the typical "interview all the celebs" spot, and when he gets to Alex Trabek, he uses his signature "my dear, close, personal friend" bit, to which Alex keeps refering to him as Jim. |
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| Mad Dog | Jan 5 2013, 07:58 AM Post #367 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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The surprise that one of their strippers could do something that athletic to you and the weight of your fake tits holding you down? |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Jan 5 2013, 10:13 AM Post #368 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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Still on WM 7... how depressing has the IC Title Match become over time? The two wrestlers involved are dead, the referee is dead, the big surprise run in is dead, and the two men calling the match are dead. |
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| Mad Dog | Jan 5 2013, 12:42 PM Post #369 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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It was a good match though. I mean the show was almost 22 years ago. So a lot of the guys being dead is going to be more and more likely. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Jan 5 2013, 05:34 PM Post #370 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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Still seems like not too long ago. I can see Gorilla and Lord Alfred obviously for their ages, but still thinking Hennig and Boss Man (and referee Joey Marella) all died way too young. |
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| Mad Dog | Jan 5 2013, 05:46 PM Post #371 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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They died young but what can you do. Anything I watch from the 80s has mostly dead people. I think the only old stuff I watch where most of the guys are still alive is SMW. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Jan 6 2013, 08:55 AM Post #372 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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I don't know why, but I have WM IV in the DVD player as background noise while I try burning some discs. Considering how rushed almost all the matches were, how did Rude/Roberts get 15-minutes, and bore everyone to death? I swear, this is the moment where the show starts to become a chore, and it never recovers. Savage/Valentine, which should've been at the least good, was awful, and it just dragged on for another 2 1/2 hours from this point. Demolition winning the tag titles and Savage's celebration at the end are nice moments, but blech... Oh, and it's the WM Anthology set, so BOO to whoever owns the music rights. 7 years later, still shitty. Editing out Demolition's theme. |
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| Erick Von Erich | Jan 7 2013, 11:25 AM Post #373 |
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I'm Big E and I tell it like it is
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I remember the Apter mags ripping WMIV, calling it "WresteMania Bore, uh, Four". Then saying: "you didn't need the ears of Dumbo the Elephant to hear the chants of BORING during the Jake Roberts-Rick Rude match". You're probably right about Rude-Roberts being the turning point. The novelty of the tournament was there for the first round, so even stuff like Muraco/Bravo was somewhat intriguing. What really killed the crowd and the event was the Hogan-Andre match that went to a somewhat nonsensical double DQ. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Jan 7 2013, 03:05 PM Post #374 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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Roberts/Rude, followed by Warrior/Hercules, followed by Andre/Hogan... yeah, 40-minutes of taking a dump if you don't want to fall asleep before the midway point of the show. |
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| Infinite Devil Machine | Jan 12 2013, 06:28 AM Post #375 |
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A Very Cunning Linguist
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Just read Scrooge's Royal Rumble '99 review. Solid stuff. But come on, man. No mention at all of the most blatant spot calling in the history of almost ever? Triple H says to Val Venis, loud enough for the camera mic to pick it up, and not even focused on him "if I throw you, can you hang on?" Even Vince notices on commentary and tries to cover for it. Its awesome. The sole highlight of that Rumble match. |
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