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| Mad Dog | Oct 28 2014, 05:15 PM Post #781 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Yeah. I don't mind when they do a JTTS with a jobber. I don't mind like Moondog Rex or S.D. Jones teaming with a lesser jobber and knowing how that will end. It's the mid-carders. They even teamed Don Muraco up with Iron Mike Sharpe for a random match on I think Wrestling Challenge several episodes ago. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Oct 28 2014, 05:19 PM Post #782 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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Was this before or after he was involved with Adrian Adonis' feud with Roddy Piper? |
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| Mad Dog | Oct 28 2014, 05:25 PM Post #783 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Like right before. He did that and then he showed up on that Piper's Pit a couple of weeks later I think. He and Orton start doing the kilts to the ring thing right after that and are doing regular tags right now. |
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| Mad Dog | Oct 28 2014, 05:28 PM Post #784 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Yeah, that match was on the first episode of Wrestling Challenge. Mike Rotunda and Dan Spivey beat Don Muraco and Iron Mike Sharpe. The Piper's Pit/Flower Shop thing happened sometime in early October. |
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| Mad Dog | Oct 28 2014, 05:32 PM Post #785 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Sika was also one of those oddball guys to have on the roster. He seemed really redundant when you also had Kamala around. |
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| Erick Von Erich | Oct 29 2014, 06:58 AM Post #786 |
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I'm Big E and I tell it like it is
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Which is probably why Kamala and Sika teamed up, semi-regularly, around WM3. Nowadays, I'm a little surprised that Corp. Kirchner was moved down the card, so fast. I get that he was force-fed down the audience's throats upon his arrival, but he wasn't terrible in the ring. Terrible on the mic, but that never really stopped the WWF. Jimmy Jack Funk seemed to be another of those jobbers of the era who hung around with no real purpose. Not sure if they teamed him up with midcarders, though. Weirdest roster addition of the time, to me, is probably Blackjack Mulligan. He was usually booked to look strong and ran through the JTTS guys. I think his record was pretty good and I don't believe he had any televised pinfall losses (if he did lose). This was well over a year after the "Blackjack's BBQ" segments, so it was weird. He had a very small program with Ron Bass, upon Bass's arrival, in the summer of 1987. Bass even used the reverse elbow-smash off the ropes to build "heat". |
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| Mad Dog | Oct 29 2014, 02:28 PM Post #787 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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They teamed Jimmy Jack Funk up with Dory Funk a lot after Terry Funk left. |
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| torturedsoulv1 | Oct 29 2014, 07:34 PM Post #788 |
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true maharajah Jinder Mahal
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They had at least one tag title shot against the British Bulldogs. I remember it at MSG. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Oct 29 2014, 09:44 PM Post #789 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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After sitting through nearly 6 hours of footage from Kevin Sullivan's career spanning the early-mid 80's, I figured "why not torture myself" by watching some of the Dungeon of Doom stuff, again. While Sullivan's promo style could be a bit... out there (cosmic cookies, climbing the 13th step of the 13th pyramid, blah blah blah), the stuff from the Dungeon of Doom is total campy cheese. I won't lie, it's entertainingly bad, but still, this was supposed to be the top program of WCW for the Summer/Fall of '95, and it's played as a goofy Saturday Morning Cartoon. |
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| Erick Von Erich | Oct 30 2014, 09:41 AM Post #790 |
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I'm Big E and I tell it like it is
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Cuz' ya' can't spell "Dungeon" without DUNG! I wonder if the Dungeon of Doom was WCW's version of "Dusty Rhodes in Polka Dots"? Like the whole thing was started as a rib on Hogan and the WWF. Sullivan and/or Hogan sat down and may have said: "this sounds way too stupid...wouldn't it be something if it actually got over"? It's like if the early 90's WWF did their version of Sullivan's Florida stuff. I'm curious about Sullivan and Hogan's relationship in 1995. Were they friendly? How else could a career midcard guy (at least in his WCW career) suddenly get picked to be a main event heel? I'd say that Sullivan as "The Taskmaster" was one of two positive things about the Dungeon (the other being the debut of The Giant). Making him into the "anti-Hogan"; complete with the reversed colors; was kinda' neat. It played into Sullivan's previous angle with "brother" Dave and how Hogan kinda' stole him. Oh, and I still say the Dungeon was successful in their mission: they really DID end Hulkamania. By making Hogan's matches suck so bad that WCW had no choice but to take him off TV and re-package him as the Third Man of the NWO. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Oct 30 2014, 10:04 AM Post #791 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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Sullivan being the man with the book has always been one reason from the "smart" audience, but Hogan had 100% complete control over what he did and who he worked with, so maybe Sullivan was just willing to play along and make himself look goofy for Hogan's sake. They already discarded Flair and got him off TV because he was more popular than Hogan, and the Vader stuff ran it's course. They could've ran with Savage as a heel, but probably wanted to hold off on that until they exhausted everything else. I hate to keep harping on a topic, but there could've been positives out of the Dungeon of Doom. First, the repackaging of John Tenta and Ed Leslie. I would've preferred not using two very obvious looking people, especially when we're supposed to pretend Shark and Zodiac were two completely different guys from Avalanche and the Butcher. I didn't watch WCW on a full time basis, but I can guess they never acknowledged their past. Had they recognized them as their past names and their under a bizarre mind spell, then it would've been slightly better, like when Gordon Solie would openly acknowledge Bob Roop as Mayha Singh and Mark Lewin as the Purple Haze. Second, I know it was the "cartoon" era, but making them look more gritty wouldn't have hurt. Meng fit the role. Kamala too. Zodiac looked like he found his old white and black Brutus Beefcake tights and Shark looked ridiculous with the big shark printed on his tights and the colorful patterns. Third... they never won a significant match, especially clean. Other than the Giant's tainted Halloween Havoc victory, wins over established talent was very limited. Kamala pinned Jim Duggan at Bash at the Beach, and that's about all I can remember for 1995. |
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| Mad Dog | Oct 30 2014, 03:51 PM Post #792 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Jim Duggan was the height of their success in 1995. I even went and gave the results from the B shows a look and they really didn't beat anyone other than jobbers. |
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| Mad Dog | Oct 30 2014, 04:03 PM Post #793 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Hercules and Lanny Poffo had a good little match on Superstars. Ken Resnick really does a poor job of hyping matches up compared to Mean Gene. |
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| Mad Dog | Oct 30 2014, 04:04 PM Post #794 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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And the Outback Jack promos just started. |
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| Infinite Devil Machine | Oct 31 2014, 01:41 AM Post #795 |
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A Very Cunning Linguist
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Just a thought, according to Kevin Sullivan's shoot interview, The Dungeon of Doom in WCW was totally meant to be a disposable group of goofs from, basically, the outset. Sullivan, in his own words, felt he needed to win Hogan's trust and also familiarize Hogan with WCW's audience for a while before Sullivan would try to dig into something "meatier" with Hulk. Sullivan claimed it was to help ween Hogan off of the "WWF mindset" and make him comfortable in WCW by having him work and beat guys who posed no threat to his position. The DOD was never meant to be good they were built, almost expressly to be an assembly line goon squad for Hogan to beat for a while before moving on. |
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