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| Scrooge McSuck | Jan 8 2012, 07:47 PM Post #76 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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1992 is the year I completely fell out of wrestling (for the first time), and all my opinions are based on my more "smarky" days, but Savage's reign might've been one of the most forgetable of the "pre-Attitude era" reigns. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't really good, and his only noteworthy defense was a shmozz at SummerSlam. Midcard matches with Skinner or Repo Man hardly count towards the credibility of this reign. To end everything, the title then changed hands on an episode of PRIME TIME WRESTLING. 1992 just seems weird to me. The new wave of top heels included Papa Shango, the Berzerker, Nailz, and I'm sure others I don't want to remember. These were the guys meant to replace Sid and Jake Roberts, among others? Characters and gimmicks are fine, but all three were terrible in the ring, and the promo skills were somewhere between ass and balls. Ric Flair was really the only top heel with credentials, but with so much dull time between WM and SSlam, it seems like he was a non-factor that entire stretch. |
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| Erick Von Erich | Jan 8 2012, 08:02 PM Post #77 |
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I'm Big E and I tell it like it is
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1992 started out red hot, but ran out of gas around WrestleMania. Their slew of changing titles at house shows (IC title, tag titles twice, and then Bret Hart's big WWF title win at a random taping) really killed the TV product. The sudden departures of the LOD, Sid and Hogan hurt things, as well. Even Roddy Piper went MIA after WrestleMania. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Jan 8 2012, 08:19 PM Post #78 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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As I've mentioned, my 1992 knowledge is one of the years where it wasn't "as it happened" information, but it seems like a lot of programs, at least with top of the card superstars, just went nowhere. I'm sure it's because the focus was to attract better crowds for the live events, but when it comes to television, it was pretty much dick. Off the top of my head: Undertaker/Berzerker over the stabbing incident, Warrior/Sid turned to Warrior/Shango, then when that bombed, Warrior was put into that whole angle with Savage and Flair. I seem to recall Slaughter/Mountie teasing something until Slaughter turned into a tag wrestler, there was the RepoMan/Bulldog thing when Repo hung him on an episode of Superstars, and LOD/Beverly Brothers really went nowhere. The Tatanka/Model program seemed to be put on hold (over the sacred feathers) allowing a quick/Model/HBK heel feud, before going back to it. There was so much not going on, and when something did, it didn't go anywhere. Did Bret or Shawn officially feud during the spring, or were they just in limbo that whole time? |
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| Erick Von Erich | Jan 9 2012, 08:12 AM Post #79 |
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I'm Big E and I tell it like it is
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The Slaughter/Mountie thing ran over the summer. It didn't get a proper blow-off, either on the live shows or on TV. Slaughter then did a stretcher job to Nailz on Prime Time in September (taped in early August) and he was suddenly MIA, as well. That lack of top heels in 1992 is probably why Razor Ramon was rocketed to the top of the card. He started getting in Savage's face about his "lack of machismo" almost immediately. Razro seemed like another gimmick wrestler, along the lines of Repo Man. Which is why it was weird that he became such a big part of their bookings and a cornerstone from '92 to '96. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Jan 11 2012, 04:31 AM Post #80 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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I never quite got the concept behind repackaging Crush from "member of Demolition" to "coconut crushing Hawaiian", without changing his name, or explaining that, yes, he was in Demolition. Usually the "creative" team was a bit better than that, like with Smash/Repo Man, or Papa Shango/Kama. I guess someone just LOVED the name Crush (hearing McMahon say it suggest he did). |
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| Erick Von Erich | Jan 11 2012, 12:45 PM Post #81 |
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I'm Big E and I tell it like it is
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Man, I can't remember, but when did Crush "return"? After WrestleMania 8 in April 1992? I think they might have mentioned he was "returning to the WWF", but not that he was specifically in Demolition. I think I'm repeating myself, but it seemed like he could've been a top-level babyface at that time. At least an IC title holder and someone who could challenge a heel world champ. Crush in 1992: [doHTML]<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ITEW-EkJFcs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/doHTML] I was into his run when he returned, but quickly lost enthusiasm when they started making him talk in a Hawaiian accent. "ey, Aloha from Crush". Crush in 1993 (now with ACCENT, "brudda"): [doHTML]<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/fbcEjUf2uVQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/doHTML] |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Jan 11 2012, 02:39 PM Post #82 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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I dug Crush, even when he turned heel on Savage. Considering how depleted the roster was by the time he returned/debuted, he could've easily done more as a babyface than filler match at SummerSlam, left off Survivor Series, left out of the '93 Rumble, then jobbed to Doink. Outside of Savage, Bret, and Undertaker (and very briefly, Warrior), they didn't have many top faces. Duggan, Slaughter, Santana, Virgil, Bossman, and I'm sure others, were long in the tooth or just not interesting. Speaking of wasted babyfaces, Tatanka was given a nearly 2-year long "undefeated" streak, and had nothing to show for it. Pointless in the long run. I remember being UPSET he lost to Ludvig Borga. As a mark, I was like "he's done, now. He's going to lose every other match from here on." |
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| Viceroy Virus | Jan 11 2012, 04:00 PM Post #83 |
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The Return of Andre "The Fucking" Giant!
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Maybe someone was a huge mark for The Crusher and didn't want to see the name Crush disappear with the gimmick change. But, I think we all can agree that Crush's best gimmick was as an ex-con in the Nation of Domination. Speaking of Papa Shango, the NoD is also where Kama Mustafa got repackaged as The Godfather. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Jan 13 2012, 09:02 PM Post #84 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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One of the many programs from 1998 I totally forgot about: the "NWA" stable, that never really seemed to have a permanent lineup. Jeff Jarrett won whatever worthless title there was, Barry Windham turned on bradshaw to join him, then they brought in the Rock N' Roll Express for about a week, and then Dan Severn came in to prove that something could be more boring than watching paint dry and grass grow. Edit: Oh, and then the revival of the Midnight Express... with BOMBASTIC Bob (Holly) and BODACIOUS Bart (Gunn). |
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| Mad Dog | Jan 14 2012, 06:12 AM Post #85 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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It was the NWA North American Heavyweight Championship. They also awarded the Rock N Roll Express the NWA World Tag Team Championship and they feuded with the Headbangers before the new Midnight Express turned them face. |
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| Mad Dog | Jan 14 2012, 06:18 AM Post #86 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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That stable was stupid for the most part but I do remember the Rock N Roll Express vs. Headbangers feud actually being somewhat decent. |
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| torturedsoulv1 | Jan 14 2012, 12:20 PM Post #87 |
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true maharajah Jinder Mahal
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They had some talent in that stable Jarrrett was very good back then. Severn was a beast but had zero charisma. Windham wAs past his prime and alot of injuries had accumulated by this point. Rock n Roll Express with Cornette could have bee bigger considering their history, but this was WWF not WCW. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Jan 14 2012, 12:30 PM Post #88 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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My head-scratching of the whole thing was that this was the Attitude era, and while I remember the whole NWA thing was "tradition" in contrast to "Attitude", they basically did nothing, outside of a brief program with the Headbangers. Jarrett reverted back to Double J by the end of April, Windham left, and Severn flip-flopped as a tweener before forming an alliance with Owen Hart. It sounds like a great idea on paper, but using has-beens like Windham and the RnR and jobbers like Bart and Holly wasn't the best way to go. Edit: I seem to recall the New MX getting a tag title match at KOTR '98, but I don't think there was any real reason for it. It just happened to be a coincidence it was against the New Age Outlaws, and at that point, the NWA storyline was put to rest. |
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| Mad Dog | Jan 14 2012, 06:37 PM Post #89 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Aztec Jeff Jarrett was pretty fucking stupid. |
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| Viceroy Virus | Jan 15 2012, 09:52 AM Post #90 |
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The Return of Andre "The Fucking" Giant!
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I forget about Aztec Warrior Jeff Jarrett. I remembered the tights though. I might have that figure somewhere. Just to note, I just watched The New Midnight Express vs. two random jobbers, aka Steve Corino and Julio Sanchez (Dinero). http://youtu.be/LgA0R3HI4vU |
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