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| Mad Dog | Apr 25 2016, 08:47 AM Post #1006 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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I honestly count down the shows left until a Saturday Main Event is next. Those are breaths of fresh air. |
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| Infinite Devil Machine | Apr 25 2016, 11:42 AM Post #1007 |
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A Very Cunning Linguist
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For reasons unknown (but mostly because I drank too much Saturday night partying with some buddies of mine) I spent my Sunday night in a hungover stupor watching some old WCW Saturday Night episodes from 1999 I found on Youtube. What an adventure! A few highlights; One show actually had a fairly decent Cruiserweight title triple-threat between champion Billy Kidman, Rey Mysterio, and Psychosis that somehow managed to end in a triple count-out. Never heard of a count-out in a triple-threat match. WCW were innovators, clearly. Saturn having a pair of solid matches on two separate episodes against (of all people) Sgt. Buddy Lee Parker and Bobby Blayze. Bobby Blayze, you may remember from Jim Cornette's Smoky Mountain Wrestling crew a few years before that, having some fair success in their tag-team division. Chris Jericho and Booker T tearing it up in a really good match that wouldn't have been out of place on Nitro back then. "Lightning Mullet Foot" Jerry Flynn beating The Disciple Ed Leslie in a match where Ed's only moves were punches and looking bored. Kendall Whendam vs. Chad Fortune in a battle of the tall, thin, boring bald men. Also, Chad blowing the fuck out of an armdrag spot. Dave "Fit Finlay" and "Mr. Excitement" Dave Taylor beating the Armstrong Brothers in a pretty decent tag-team match. Scott Hudson and Mike Tenay on commentary. In addition, Scott Hudson and Mike Tenay trying to make a running joke about a candy dish "in the back" into a thing. Van Hammer vs. Johnny Swinger - On two separate episodes. Also, Van Hammer managing to be over six-foot tall, jacked to the gills, but still managing to make both of his finishers look terrible. Man he sucks. Glacier doing the job to Al Green's top-rope flying shoulder tackle. Chris Adam's losing a few matches, coming back in a British Flag adorned karate gi and working a semi-shoot fight/mixed martial arts style gimmick against Lenny Lane. And winning with, what for all the world looks like Adams just shoving Lenny's head between his thighs and squeezing. Scott Hudson and Tenay, of course, tried to put it over as a choke. Erik Watts coming into WCW in 1999, dressing like he was in Kronik before Kronik were a team and knocking off the Frito Bandito aka Silver King in a match where it seemed both guys were trying to play the heel at once. The legendary super-team of Lodi and Al Green jobbing to Rey Mysterio and Konnan in a match where Al Green and Konnan blow their half of the finishing sequence so bad they just say fuck it and do it again. And then they blow that. Basically, Konnan was going for his usual leapfrog, back-kick, X-Factor setup for the Tequila Sunrise while at the same time Rey was supposed to nail Lodi with a top-rope hurricanrana. Rey did his half, but Al Green and Konnan were way off on their part. So, the ref just ignored Rey pinning Lodi, as Konnan and Al re-maneuvered their way into the finish, Al fucked it up again and Konnan just kicked him in the chest for the setup. Meanwhile on commentary, Hudson is trying to put over how Konnan is a "fluid and fast wrestler". And yeah... Konnan sucked. |
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| Mad Dog | Apr 26 2016, 02:39 PM Post #1008 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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The never ending series of Brutus Beefcake vs. Johnny V matches start now. |
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| Mad Dog | Apr 26 2016, 03:04 PM Post #1009 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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The only good part of this Patera/Heenan segment is Monsoon using the footage to taunt Heenan for months on Primetime Wrestling. |
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| Mad Dog | Apr 28 2016, 07:46 PM Post #1010 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Really good Saturday Nights Main Event for May of 1987. I think I finally don't have to watch Savage and Steele fight again. It's sad to realize I now have to make it from May to October without any kind of special to insert feature matches. Wrestling Challenge from this same weekend actually had some interesting matches. Can-Ams vs. Kamala and Sika wasn't good but it was a nice curiosity match. |
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| Erick Von Erich | Apr 29 2016, 08:47 AM Post #1011 |
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I'm Big E and I tell it like it is
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Yeah, I think the 1987 SNME's are probably the best year of that show (even despite the THREE Savage/Steele matches). I love the Honky Tonk Man disguised as Kim Chee bit! When "Kim Chee" begins taking off his disguise to reveal Honky's gear, Jesse gets a classic line: "what a snazzy dresser Kim Chee is"! Hacksaw's angle with Volkoff and Sheik is hilarious, nowadays. "You can't sing that anthem, cuz' this is the land of the free!!" Hacksaw might almost be the heel today, by going with the whole "'Merica" thing. For the Patera thing-- it's amazing how that angle got over, with absolutely ZERO contribution from Patera himself. It was all built up by Heenan and Mean Gene, with Patera only cutting one or two banal promos. |
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| Mad Dog | Apr 29 2016, 04:16 PM Post #1012 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Duggan is probably the best part of the TV right now. He really stands out because he's more Mid-South Duggan than he is WWF Duggan right now. |
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| Mad Dog | Apr 29 2016, 06:38 PM Post #1013 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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The post Mania III feuds right now seem to be: Hulk Hogan vs. Harley Race - this seems more of a program for the Boston Garden right now. Hart Foundation vs. British Bulldogs Ken Patera vs. Bobby Heenan Brutus Beefcake vs. Johnny V Hacksaw Jim Duggan vs. Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff Honkytonk Man vs. Jake Roberts - Ban the DDT French Canadians vs. The New Dream Team - I guess this is a thing? They started doing promos on Wrestling Challenge Tito Santana vs. Danny Davis Yeah, that's a pretty mixed bag of feuds. |
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| Infinite Devil Machine | Apr 29 2016, 08:50 PM Post #1014 |
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A Very Cunning Linguist
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Man, that really goes to show you that Vince Russo's whole adage about his run in the Attitude Era and his whole credo of "giving everyone an angle" wasn't the first time that was done. That's a whole card, from top to bottom with a feud in place for almost every important guy on the roster. That never happens today. Hell, even bottom feeders like Tito Santana and Danny Davis got a featured program. |
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| Mad Dog | Apr 29 2016, 08:59 PM Post #1015 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Tito is still a high end mid-carder here. I don't think he starts sliding down to the bottom until 1989. He was teaming with Pedro Morales for awhile and got stuck with Davis because they were both thirds in the Mania six man. I also forgot Ron Bass vs. Blackjack Mulligan is going on. It can be hard to tell with WWF TV though. Sometimes there's no actual onscreen interaction and you just get insert promos talking about said feud. |
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| Infinite Devil Machine | Apr 29 2016, 09:29 PM Post #1016 |
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A Very Cunning Linguist
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Well, WWF TV still built more for house shows than big TV matches back then, to be fair. Inset promos set up arena shows, with feuds that you never saw a culmination to on TV. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | Apr 29 2016, 09:47 PM Post #1017 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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Blackjack Mulligan just felt so out of place and looked awful, but then we also had revived pushes for Ken Patera, Kamala, and Killer Khan, so maybe it wasn't the worst in the world. I can't think of anything he did in that post-Machines run. |
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| Mad Dog | Apr 30 2016, 07:00 AM Post #1018 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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You're right about Mulligan. It feels like a relic from the past getting dug up for some matches. I've really started to appreciate Killer Khan after seeing some of his Japan work but he's such an oddball addition considering his career is almost over. Then there's Outback Jack. They literally did months of segments building him up and he's already being pushed off of TV after maybe 3 appearances on Superstars. 5-9-87 Superstars episode surprised me as Ricky Steamboat and Tiger Chung Lee actually had a really fun and kind of intense match. |
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| Mad Dog | Apr 30 2016, 07:40 AM Post #1019 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Next week Demolition gets their first feature level match with the Islanders. Ken Patera is also taking on Hercules. |
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| Mad Dog | Apr 30 2016, 07:45 AM Post #1020 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Oh god, they have Ron Bass co-hosting Wrestling Challenge and it's awful. Not even 5 minutes in and I'm sick of him already. |
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