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| Mad Dog | May 6 2017, 04:27 PM Post #1441 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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If you go back in time a bit, each show kind of existed in it's own universe with JCP/WCW. Especially in the 80s. There was some connection but World Wide and say Saturday Night could be watched as a single show and you'd see all the important stuff. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | May 6 2017, 04:45 PM Post #1442 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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Saturday Night was definitely the A show. When I was a kid, all we got was something on Saturday mornings at 6 in the morning (I grew up in NY), and it was all squashes. I'm going to assume it was Pro. It was really hard to follow WCW when all you saw was Candyman Brad Armstrong and Dutch Mantel. |
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| Mad Dog | May 6 2017, 05:59 PM Post #1443 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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It was kind of weird in 1985 and 1986. World Wide Wrestling was kind of the A show at the time and that slowly shifted as time went on. World Championship Wrestling was kind of a bizarro show. But then at the time, you had talent that would appear there but never show up on World Wide or Pro. When you get into 89 and the early 90s I think you should look at it like you have the TBS-verse shows and the syndicated-verse shows. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | May 6 2017, 06:13 PM Post #1444 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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If I had the talent WCW did, I'd probably showcase quality matches, too. Imagine if WWF went that route with their shit rosters. Yeah, they had the Rockers and Macho Man and a handful of others, but God Damn, Dino Bravo, Hercules, Warlord, Boris Zhukov, and a butt ton of other terrible workers having to do more than 90-second squashes every week? Vomit face here. |
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| Mad Dog | May 6 2017, 06:41 PM Post #1445 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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They were kind of doing that well in 1992 with the 2 out of 3 matches on Saturday Night. The problem is, they changed bookers so much that talent could never get settled in. Everything would get tossed in the air every six months. |
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| Mad Dog | May 6 2017, 06:47 PM Post #1446 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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What I think WCW TV is generally better than WWF TV in the 80s. You had better jobbers, the promos were a lot better and they gave away a little more on TV. Mid 1987 through 1988 is where they lost their way a bit as Dusty was just past his sell by date as a booker and talent. |
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| Mad Dog | May 6 2017, 06:50 PM Post #1447 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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If you really want your mind blown by giving stuff away on TV you should watch Mid-South/UWF. Tons of title changes on TV and their way of getting you to the arena was giving you a shorter preview of the match on TV. I place the UWF as my favorite TV of the 80s. |
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| torturedsoulv1 | May 6 2017, 10:54 PM Post #1448 |
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true maharajah Jinder Mahal
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As far as all the WCW shows you mentioned I think you got them all But if I remember correctly Prime and Pro were done by the time Thunder started I don't remember main event though |
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| Mad Dog | May 7 2017, 03:41 AM Post #1449 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Prime, Pro and Main Event all got culled around the same time frame. Main Event in the 80s and early 90s was on Sunday nights. For awhile they used it to put on weekly feature level bouts. It eventually ended up as a clip show with a couple of matches in there. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | May 7 2017, 05:46 AM Post #1450 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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An example of what I was talking about, courtesy Dave Meltzer's WON...
Watching the TV shows, it seems like Butcher is ready to turn, then they drop it all together, then they do the turn, but another show doesn't recognize it happened yet and shows more footage of them as a team without any trouble, and then he's suddenly the Man with No Name. Not that anyone gives a shit about the feud, but it's this stuff that makes keeping up with everything a pain in the arse. |
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| Mad Dog | May 7 2017, 10:37 AM Post #1451 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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They hit a point where they had guys stop wearing the belts for those TV tapings because it was just easier. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | May 7 2017, 10:39 AM Post #1452 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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Yeah, nothing tops 1993 when they taped 3-4 months at a time, presenting new champions during the taping and exposing the future plans. Really sucked when stuff happens like Pillman getting hurt right before the Hollywood Blondes had to drop the tag titles, and the whole Sid/Arn incident that forced a major change at Starrcade. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | May 7 2017, 10:49 AM Post #1453 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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Nitro going head to head with Raw almost instantly changed everything about the taping patterns and setting up angles. Even though WWF was losing stations, Superstars still had angles occasionally happen that weren't getting time on Raw, and I've already mentioned how confusing WCW's taping schedule was. Once Nitro becomes a thing, it's all about Nitro and for at least a little while longer, Saturday Night. Once we enter the 2-hour Nitro era, then it's pretty much over for SN being more than a showcase for midcarders having meaningless matches. |
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| Mad Dog | May 7 2017, 11:20 AM Post #1454 |
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ho ho who the hell are you?
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Saturday Night held on until about late 97 as far as having some meaningful matches on it. |
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| Scrooge McSuck | May 7 2017, 11:56 AM Post #1455 |
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I'll get you next time, toilet!
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Maybe it's me getting old, but Dungeon of doom is so campy and stupid it's entertaining... the vignettes, not watching guys like Kamala work every week. If you're going to give jobs to a bunch of washed up talent, might as well use them to put over Hogan than having Flair do it every other week. |
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