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Verboten (Game On); LA Forbidden Friendship game
Topic Started: Oct 19 2011, 02:19 PM (5,258 Views)
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Diceman,Dec 13 2011
05:01 PM
I had one candle in that province when I attacked. That candle was gone before the battle happened because of preaching. It's a years old bug that's not likely to ever get fixed, and I'm tired in general of those kinds of bugs and undocumented behaviour so I'm out of the game.

Um, how is that a bug. Preaching happens before combat. That's an order of turn thing.

I mean, I'm sorry, but its not like you didn't know that.

(Edit: The manual doesn't actually say when preaching occurs, as far as i can determine. My guess is it happens during the 'prayer' step.)
"I disagree. The AI is playing the same game. It makes armies, it makes thugs, it makes SCs." --Gandalf Parker
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Admiral_Aorta
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Wait, Patala is AI? err.. Buh?

I'm assuming that's related to Maerlande's thread here. I'm not sure why he couldn't have told us and arranged a sub though.
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Blarg.

Ok, i need votes on whether we play on or roll back and find a sub. (Damn it Maerlande, just tell me you don't want to play and I'd have tried to find someone else)
"I disagree. The AI is playing the same game. It makes armies, it makes thugs, it makes SCs." --Gandalf Parker
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Admiral_Aorta
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Doesn't roll back cause all kinds of problems? Would be nice to get a sub though, it's a bit early in the game for an AI. There's also Ulm to find a sub for.
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In response to the AI-ing of Ulm, Uriel has selflessly decided to nerf the entire nation of Caelum, up to and including ordering her archers to shoot her to death.

Son of a fucking bitch...I tried to crank out a turn in 90sec this AM before work, with horrible results, up to and including accidentally ordering my unscripted pretender to the wrong province along with an army of archers. Among other hilariously egregious errors. And I really thought LA Caelum might have had a shot this time :D

So, in summation, Caelum votes for a rollback :P
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Admiral_Aorta
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Well, at least Ulm can't take advantage of you, he's AI.
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cleveland
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Ulm's position is a bit untenable, it would be a brave soul that takes on that nation - no hard feelings, Diceman. But from what I can see, Patala's in pretty good shape, if any potential subs are lurking...pondering volunteering...

Regardless, can we get a day's delay? Gotta work all night.
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Patala has a bunch of Elephants, a A4F4 Phoenix god, and what looks like order-prod scales.

I'm fine either way: continuing with the AI, or a rollback & new sub.
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cleveland,Dec 14 2011
02:21 AM
In response to the AI-ing of Ulm, Uriel has selflessly decided to nerf the entire nation of Caelum, up to and including ordering her archers to shoot her to death. 

Son of a fucking bitch...I tried to crank out a turn in 90sec this AM before work, with horrible results, up to and including accidentally ordering my unscripted pretender to the wrong province along with an army of archers.  Among other hilariously egregious errors.  And I really thought LA Caelum might have had a shot this time :D

So, in summation, Caelum votes for a rollback :P

I didn't read that the first time. I had been wondering what happened to Uriel! Actually lolled when I read that.

Edit: I reconsidered: 3 out of 8 nations AI or having shot themselves in the foot/back might be a bit much for year 2. So, I've changed my position and decided to vote for a rollback.
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Admiral_Aorta
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Yeah a rollback might cause problems, we can continue on okay.
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I abstain from voting.

I can see the issue presented by having another player go AI, but I don't particularly care if someone else had an unlucky turn. I would just prefer to get on with the game. I would lose a gold event and some freespawn chaff though...

I'm happy to respect any decision regarding a rollback.
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First and Foremost, Caelum's misfortune is not sufficient cause for a rollback (sorry Caelum). Even if there was a rollback, players who did submit a turn really shouldn't submit a new turn.

Second, I'm inclined to agree that finding a sub for Ulm is hopeless.

As such, I will rollback if and only if a sub can be found for Patala. I will be extending the turn another 24h to look for one (in addition to the 12h already extended). If a sub cannot be found in that time, this turn will host as now scheduled and we will play on.
"I disagree. The AI is playing the same game. It makes armies, it makes thugs, it makes SCs." --Gandalf Parker
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No worries. Actually it amuses me to think of the Caelum people - fearing the growing power of their leader - execute a sic semper tyrannis coup, successfully assassinating her and her entire high counsel of hareb elders... :lol:

But objectively I do think finding a sub is the right call - an AI Patala is going to be devoured pretty quickly, which would be a bummer so early in such a small game. In retrospect, we probably should have let Maerlande design his own nation & restarted, so I certainly don't fault him.

But I can't really be objective, given my circumstance, so don't listen to me. If we do find a sub, I'll even stale to keep it fair, if that's acceptable to the group?
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Koral
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I'm subbing in for Patala, and if you did submit orders already I think llamaserver remembers then after a rollback.
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Ok, I am about to roll back the turn. Only Koral is to submit a 2h file - everyone else's turns are already received and stored on llamaserver, so there is no need for anyone else to send one. (And acting based on knowledge of the future illegitimately gained is not appropriate).

When Koral has submitted his 2h file i will forcehost the turn.

I apologize to Winner for losing his events, but a living Patala is much better for the health of the game than the alternatives.

"I disagree. The AI is playing the same game. It makes armies, it makes thugs, it makes SCs." --Gandalf Parker
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