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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 30 2012, 07:35 PM (1,933 Views) | |
| frosted | Sep 30 2012, 07:35 PM Post #1 |
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FINAL TOURNEY BRACKETS!![]() UPDATED AND COMPLETE! |
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| Lord Xia | Oct 1 2012, 01:55 AM Post #2 |
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I find this confusing. |
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| frosted | Oct 1 2012, 02:19 AM Post #3 |
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Probably because I fucked it up and didn't put your name in there. Because I fucked it up... I am about to step out the door, I will put up the revised brackets in a few hours. Sorry for huge screwup! |
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| Diabl0658 | Oct 1 2012, 10:42 AM Post #4 |
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When will the servers be up? |
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| Fantomen | Oct 1 2012, 10:55 AM Post #5 |
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If I understand this right, and lord xia is the one stray lamb in the flock, that makes us 16 players and no byes will be needed. That's great, because I don't like the idea of some people bypassing rounds of fighting. I would always wonder if I got got that far only because of the bye. |
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| Torin | Oct 1 2012, 11:16 AM Post #6 |
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there will be 2 byes. |
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| Fantomen | Oct 1 2012, 12:24 PM Post #7 |
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Oh, right. We're 14 players, not 16, my bad. |
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| Maerlande | Oct 1 2012, 02:44 PM Post #8 |
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If we have even numbers I think we shouldn't have any byes. I don't want a bye. |
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| Silvano | Oct 1 2012, 02:57 PM Post #9 |
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Well, a solution might be to pair all the players. We would have then 7 matches that will bring forth 7 winners to the next round. The 8th player for the following round might be one of the 7 losers which had the best win ratio (in this case should be 2 wins and 1 loss). The problem is that there might be more players with 2W1L ratio so which one should be chosen to continue may not be a fair/easy choice. |
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| <span style=Calahan</span> | Oct 1 2012, 03:07 PM Post #10 |
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If there are to be any byes at any point in a KO system, then they should always be as early in the process as possible. As the last thing you want are byes in the QF's or SF's. Or as Silvano says, just promote a player(s) into one of the rounds to make the numbers up to 8/16/whatever. |
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| Fantomen | Oct 1 2012, 04:03 PM Post #11 |
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Yeah, I like Silvanos suggestion. One solution if there are several "best losers", is to have them fight each other for the last spot. And like Maerlande, I'm not really comfortable with receiving a bye straight into the quarter finals. It doesn't seem right somehow. I'll accept frosteds final decision though, whichever he thinks is best. |
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| frosted | Oct 1 2012, 07:36 PM Post #12 |
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Ok. I've just spent 4 hours looking at this from every possible angle. There is a great deal that went into my analysis here that I won't mention (this post will be too long as is). Since there's the possibility of tourney controversy here I will make this process as transparent as possible. I MESSED UP: I did a piss poor job on the first set of brackets, not only did I completely drop a player (sorry Xia), but the organization was almost entirely arbitrary and was 90% based on the order in which I happened to copy over players names into the bracket generator. I've revised the brackets to be both as fair as possible and competitive. I apologize for any trouble this causes or time wasted testing matches that are not valid, but this is the best possible way forward. TOURNEY BRACKETS: The QUALIFIER rounds provided the round seeding and is being measured by performance both in terms of how many games you won as well as how many games your opponents won. I used a point allocation system that works as follows: WIN AGAINST 1-1: 3 points WIN AGAINST 0-2: 2 points LOSS TO A 2-0: 1 point LOSS TO A 1-1: 0 points BYE: 1 point The full player point totals are as follows. Sub sorting a point bracket was done randomly (with a preference for players who played 2 full games): 1: Fantomen (6) (T'ien, Yomi) 2: Bullock (6) (C'tis, Fomo) 3: Maerlande (5) (Arco, Fomo) 4: Diablo0658 (5) (Arco, Van) 5: GFSnl (4) (Marv, Fomo) 6: TheDemon (4) (TNN, Saur) 7: Silvano (3) (Saur, Aby) 8: Frosted (3) (TNN, Van) 9: HeatEXTEND (3) (Aby, Neif) 10: Raiel (3) (Van, Kal) 11: Torin (3) (Aby, Hel) 12: Lord Xia (3) (TNN, Fomo) 13: Ghoul31 (2) (Neif, Hinn) 14: Danayel (2) (Yomi, Ermo) 15: BYE 16: BYE Matches are determined by taking the top player on the list and matching them against the bottom player on the list. Fantomen, you and Bullock are receiving a bye. You are the only two who won matches against opponents who went 1-1, so you are both the current top seeded competitors. You earned your spot there: the players you and Bullock beat performed better than anyone else's opponents. OP Updated with current brackets based on point totals! |
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| Fantomen | Oct 1 2012, 08:08 PM Post #13 |
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Alright, that all makes sense. |
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| frosted | Oct 1 2012, 08:36 PM Post #14 |
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I spent a really (crazy) amount of time on this revised set of brackets. It's the fairest method to everyone participating and everyone who was eliminated. If anyone wants to review the history: http://www.brainwrinkle.net/tournament/ has all the matches played in the first two rounds. Although Immac dropped (new and demanding job) I awarded Diablo full points for winning the 'exhibition' match they played, but I also applied reduced weighting to it resulting in him seeding below Maerlande at the 5 point mark without randomization. |
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| BlanketThief | Oct 1 2012, 08:45 PM Post #15 |
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All the games should be up now; All the turns/scores files will be backed up and available on request if anybody feels the urge to do some creative writing. |
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