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The Thread of Many Questions
Topic Started: Sep 2 2013, 05:52 AM (51,379 Views)
TheDemon
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Indeed. It would be more accurate to say that AoE spells pop mistform, because the first hit with magical damage still only does 1 damage. That's why Fog Warriors is considered a damn good insurance policy against all kinds of big AoE damage, because it's like a battlefield-wide Twist Fate.
Calahan,May 27 2012
11:00 AM

"should only ever buff UP stuff to make it competitve with OP stuff" is a pretty bollocks idea on which to base a gameplay mod around.
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Ohlmann
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*magical* AoE. I am not sure if they are any non magical AoE, but it's good to remember that it's magic vs non magic, not aoe vs non aoe.

For Storm of Thorn, it's not magic damage, so it's not certain to pop mistform at the first hit. A N9 caster with 21 missile would still do at least 21 damage in worse case scenario.

Iron Blizzard, which is magical, would pop the mistform with the first hit (1 damage), and all the other hit on the same unit would do normal damage.
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parone
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thank you gentlemen
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Zinegata
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parone,Jun 1 2014
01:00 AM
this is probably an easy one for you folks. does mistform effect projectiles? i know aoe evos ignore mistform, but what about a spell like storm of thorns that is NOT AOE? thanks for the help.

A note also on Fog Warriors: Despite the mechanics theoretically making Bone Grinding a great Mistform-popping spell (it does magic damage to all units in the field), it actually doesn't (wilson speculates it may be because Bone Grinding is no longer magic damage for some reason).

I had done Bone Grinding on a Fog Warrior army, and noticed most of the units didn't have their mistform popped. Initially I assumed that the enemy army just rolled well on their defense DrN roll so most enemy units didn't receive any damage at all, but wilson tested it out and only a very small number of units lost mistform each time - a percentage not much more than if the mistform had been popped by a lucky hit.
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Ohlmann
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Zinegata,Jun 1 2014
11:38 AM
A note also on Fog Warriors: Despite the mechanics theoretically making Bone Grinding a great Mistform-popping spell (it does magic damage to all units in the field), it actually doesn't

The spell description explicitely say it do non magical damage. So really by what are you surprised ?
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parone
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who is wilson?
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Zinegata
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Ohlmann,Jun 1 2014
11:46 AM
Zinegata,Jun 1 2014
11:38 AM
A note also on Fog Warriors: Despite the mechanics theoretically making Bone Grinding a great Mistform-popping spell (it does magic damage to all units in the field), it actually doesn't

The spell description explicitely say it do non magical damage. So really by what are you surprised ?

Really? I could've sworn I read magic damage somewhere (maybe the manual)?

Also, wilson's from Desura. He tests everything. (Literally).

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wilson.max or max.wilson is a SP player on Desura who does a quite fine job of testing. Just like Zinegata said.
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parone
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ok, so i was messing around in SP and i put a ring of regen on a carrion dragon. i thought undead could not use regeneration? was that true in dom3? my dragon now shows regen 10% icon.

am i totally screwed up here?
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Zargen
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Ive noticed regen works on undead as well. Imagine hydra armor+N9+ring of regen on an undead sacred :P

On units with multiple arms. Is dual wielding penalties cumulative? Does ambidexterity effect more than two arms?
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parone
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the dual wielding thing is a good question, i've often wondered that.

i was thinking, perhaps it was inanimate units that regen doesn't work on? was that it?
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parone
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ps and Zargen, imagine adding soul vortex to that mix???!!!
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Ohlmann
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Zargen,Jun 9 2014
11:31 AM
Ive noticed regen works on undead as well. Imagine hydra armor+N9+ring of regen on an undead sacred :P

On units with multiple arms. Is dual wielding penalties cumulative? Does ambidexterity effect more than two arms?

Regen don't work on lifeless. Some undead are lifeless, but most aren't.

The N9 bless work on everything.

Ambidextry penalty are cumulative. It effect every arms. "bonus" weapons who are not linked to an arm never cause ambidextry penalty.
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LDiCesare
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Limited regen doesn't work on lifeless, but I regen does. A ring of regeneration, and many items/spells, only provide limited regeneration. Blessing is listed as regeneration and affects lifeless such as Agarthan statues.
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Ohlmann
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Well, do you know of any source of true regen other than the N9 bless ?
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