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The Thread of Many Questions
Topic Started: Sep 2 2013, 05:52 AM (51,392 Views)
amuys
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No, they are the worst nation ever and you can't stop me from hating them for being dumb and stupid! :angry:

Ok, back on topic. How do I improve the precision of those darn pale ones? Earth Meld is great and all until they hit both targets and friendlies.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my words. You think you can get away with saying shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your tongue. You didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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TreantHugger
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Stop playing EA Agartha?

But for serious, the new A bless is a fucking godsend for low-prec mages.

Otherwise find A mages to cast Aim, or rely on troop buffs instead of enemy debuffs.
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LDiCesare
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Pale ones? Use Darkness. Once nobody can see anything, your pale ones actually get the upperhand in terms of att/def/prec.
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Ohlmann
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In the case of Earth meld and other offensive spell, it don't help because it does not increase the precision of the pale one, just decrease the precision of the other.

That being said, A bless with Eye of aiming should get you what you need easily enough.
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Fantomen
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A light fire bless for melee sacreds, a light air bless for mages and boulder throwers, and earth meld for the rest of the troops to hit in melee (there are no ranged non-sacreds so precision don't matter for them). And later on darkness of course.

Hmm, after phoenix gets it's automatic phoenix pyre back in the dom4 CBM it may become a good pretender for EA Agartha.

They key point to abuse for EA Agartha is that you get lots of HP for little gold, cheap meat in other words. This is one of the few advantages you have, so be careful not to throw that away by investing too much in a bless that you can't afford the critical masses of expendable flesh you need, this is just as important for retaining your other key advantage, which is massive siege bonuses for your big armies.

A best case scenario is attacking an important lightly defended fortress from underwater with a big pile of Agarthan meatsacks, and bringing it down in a single turn with your siege bonus so your enemy can't get there in time to defend it with his superior troops (they are almost guaranteed to be superior), then he'll be stalled seiging his own fort that he can't afford to give up while you get time to send real armies and don't care if you lose the meatsacks inside the fort as long as they hold it for a while.

Agarthan troops can be great for these reasons, as long as you don't try to make them what they are not, which is competitive toe to toe with other nations good troops. They're superior chaff and cannon fodder that can be used in a way that makes them stall the enemy, but you will always need other things to do the actual killing. I think this is an interesting challenge.
This sentence is a logical fallacy.
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SenterLeenk
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Eye of Aiming is a terrible idea for Agarthans.
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Ohlmann
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SenterLeenk,Oct 6 2013
03:49 PM
Eye of Aiming is a terrible idea for Agarthans.

... You're right. I forgot that they were one-eyed. I used it on two-eyed atlantean who start at 8 prec too.
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SenterLeenk
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I wouldn't say earth meld is bad either, if you're using Ancient Ones/Seal Guards as they can overcome the strength check that it has.
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amuys
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Those big guys tend to get ganged up a lot so I like to stick them behind a row of cheap and meaty pale ones. Boulders are a bit of mystery when it comes to useful application, but they ARE affected by flaming weapons.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my words. You think you can get away with saying shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your tongue. You didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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Ohlmann
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The boulder one are more or less javelinists. But without backup weapon.
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TreantHugger
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Agarthans only have one eye, so using an Eye of Aiming is a no-go. Which is too bad, becuase it would be an interesting incentive to get enough low-level A access and gems on an E nation.
Other name you may know me as: Speleothing
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Agarthans have been designed for SP, where their meatshields shine compared to other AI nations meatshields :)
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amuys
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Any tips for void summoning for MA and LA R'lyeh?
Starspawn getting eaten is a bit inconvient. Although sometimes it's pretty funny when a summoning goes wrong and neither starspawn nor void creatures can penetrate each other's MR with their mind blasts. So it ends up like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Tj_l4PcPs
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my words. You think you can get away with saying shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your tongue. You didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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Gregstrom
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The Dom3 rules of thumb as I remember them were:

Priests are better than mages.
Practice improves summoning skill.
Higher skill reduces the chance of disappearing.
Initially, raising skill lets you summon and control more powerful monsters.
Later, increasing skill teaches the summoner the wisdom of limiting their ambitions - i.e. summoning Shoggoths is bad for the health. High end monsters are less likely to be summoned, but chance to control and number summoned continue to rise.

IIRC, skill 4 or so was a sweet spot for power and 7+ was safe but dull.
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Ohlmann
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Lvl 7 or more are a lot less easy to get now, since you can't use returning in the assassination attempt on your mage.
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