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| leugimimi | Mar 7 2017, 03:24 PM Post #16 |
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I concur that the disease solution, while may be fun in SP, it's not cost effective. You destroy the province population, it's slow, etc. Finding some way to counter the Thronne defender is way better. If Zeus, countering the lightining damage, etc.
Well, I was going to test MA Agharta anyway, I may as well prepare this interaction and see the wonder happen |
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| suppenit | Mar 8 2017, 09:13 AM Post #17 |
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In SP one has enough time and resources to conquer tier 3 thrones early. In highly concurrent MP games it is common to have tier 2-3 thrones unconquered in end of year 3 - all resources are poured to early wars. The cheapest solution is the best. And who cares about population of throne provinces? |
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| KoboldLord | Mar 8 2017, 04:08 PM Post #18 |
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More important than the population is the sheer amount of time the bane venom solution takes. By the end of year 3 at least one player is probably executing their throne rush to attempt to win the game, and if that one is stopped then probably two more players will loot enough from the ashes to go for throne rushes of their own. If you have unforted indie thrones at that point there's a major risk that you'll open the turn at some point to find an enemy army sitting on them issuing the claim order to win. All your bane venom did at that point is reduce the amount of trash they have to clear to steal the throne right out from under your nose. On very large maps with many players you will be under a little less time pressure, but usually it's a better option to figure out a specific counter and spend a moderate amount of resources to get that throne earlier. Earlier is almost always worth paying a premium for. |
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| Itwastuesday | Mar 8 2017, 05:10 PM Post #19 |
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I don't agree at all based on my experience. It depends highly on the throne settings. Sure, somebody might be trying to win if it's possible to do so just by barely killing one player. In no game I have played have I seen a throne rush that was more than a cheese exploiting low throne settings and fortunate throne placement. You must be playing with very diffrent settings generally. |
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| GlointheDark | Mar 8 2017, 05:35 PM Post #20 |
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Expanding on Red Robs reply. Back in the days of shrapnel, someone published the list of events extant at that time. Most of the barbarian / knight miscellaneous attacks that occur in a province require unrest and or turmoil and/or sloth. So, if one has unluck, or lets say bad scales in general, setting the PD appropriately stops the province losing events. 6 was the magic number back then, irrc. That plus the automatic bumping up of the scouting report is useful. |
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| suppenit | Mar 8 2017, 05:50 PM Post #21 |
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In one of low-throne-requirement game parties A and B attacked P3 throne in the same turn, suffered utter devastation both and as result the game was awarded to party C who preserved troops not fighting independents. Maybe BVC usage is niche trick, but in this niche it is really good. |
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| KoboldLord | Mar 9 2017, 03:45 AM Post #22 |
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50%+1 throne points is fairly standard from what I've seen, and the possibility for a throne rush to succeed is a feature, not a bug. If a throne rush catches you with your pants completely down on these settings, all I can really say is that it's a good idea to invest in scouts. |
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| Itwastuesday | Mar 9 2017, 07:55 AM Post #23 |
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What are you even talking about? You're saying a throne rush can happen by suprise and that's why you shouldn't use disease to kill inconvenient level 3 guardians. Or that you should have scouts and it shouldn't be a suprise? How does the throne rush even happen then? I only see it ever happen because the rusher doesn't have to fight the strongest powers because thrones spawned elsewhere / everybody has problems with the thrones concept and don't check the thrones tab regularly. Like what is everybody else even doing? If somebody is approaching victory it's common courtesy to take their stuff. |
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| leugimimi | Mar 9 2017, 12:50 PM Post #24 |
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As I never actually used the bane venon, I will test in SP with a thronne 3 specifically in my cap ring, as it is the example provided. It will not have the same pressure that MP games bring on but it should get present the same troubles (blocking the cap ring, low research and so not having the ability to counter the defenders effectively) I note that while the research level is not so high, if Construction is not in your early plans of research, ir can really make you change your plan for that game. A lot of good tips on this thread, I must add. Didn't knew about the youth boots canceling the Rejuvenate spell. But I have to dispute your argument of casting the Forge of Ancients. - While many people will want to go to Const 6, research above this is very costly, and it may derail the research from more needed targets; - Forge of Ancients is costly, at 80 earth gems. Considering that your example is a Earth Serpent for a non earth nation, I think you wont have many earth gems; - Forge of Ancients, while not so threatening as the more offensive globals, is still a global that screams (DISPEL ME) way more that the normal gems gen and I had this exactly global cast once in a MP game and immediately dispeled at once, and look that my nation was a earth nation, MA Ulm. I know that the synergy betwem the nation forging capacity and the global was even more threatening, but even so, I would consider it risky with any nation casting it, more because of the master smith effect than the discount, properly speaking; |
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| Itwastuesday | Mar 9 2017, 01:41 PM Post #25 |
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While I don't advocate researching forge when you're under pressure or casting it if you don't have the gem income for it (obviously), it's still better than forging 8 hammers or something like that. As a new advice, however, I say just don't forge so many hammers anyway, they take forever to pull their weight. 2 is enough. |
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| suppenit | Mar 9 2017, 02:03 PM Post #26 |
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If you have what to forge - hammer takes 15/2 = 7.5 months to pay for itself. 13/2 = 6.5 months if forged with other hammer. For Dominions economics it is good ROI, especially in gems. |
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| GlointheDark | Mar 10 2017, 04:42 AM Post #27 |
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It depends on the nation. Two is light to my taste, but would work for many nations. On the other hand, if I'm playing helheim, I'm probably making 4 or 5. Nations with path to cheap research boosters are probably making more than 2. Same way a nation that screams thugs. It also lets you spend earth gems to save other types of gems. Useful if you have lots of e and not so much x. |
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| Zonk | Mar 21 2017, 05:15 PM Post #28 |
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Minor mechanical discovery I wanted to share: Glamour does not grant the +25 stealth bonus to commanders that are only stealthy because of an item (so, in the base game, Shademail Haubergeon or Doppelganger amulet). No idea if we should consider this a bug since it's treating an ability differently just because it's from an item or a feature Perhaps somewhat relevant if you are playing Ys, which has two recruitable commanders (and two heroines too) with glamour but no stealth, and get E/D access. |
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