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Topic Started: May 17 2008, 10:29 PM (3,188 Views)
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Still though, I don't think it's fair to place all the blame on her. Whether or not you wanted help, you were in a position where you took it AND used it. That's just my opinion though, meh. Don't worry about me.
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And I admit, I always think that I should log off AIM before challenges just in cast incidents like that, but I'm paranoid and fear that people would catch onto my ID.

I definitely take blame partly for accepting the help when I should have blocked grows!
1st GTS Awards
Best Rivalry: Black House vs. All (BB Pentagon)
Best Alliance: Jungle Fever (BB Pentagon)
Best Individual Game: Alton (BB Pentagon)

2nd GTS Awards
Worst Strategic Decision: Candice nominating/evicting Yul (Vertigo 2)
Best Eviction: Candice (Vertigo 2)
Best Villain: Luce (BB Cupid)
Best Winner: Luna (Harry Potter) :<3
Best Individual Game: Luna (Harry Potter) ~ repeat win :<3
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May 18 2008, 06:59 PM
I like getting this off my chest. I was too scared to out grows, but after she thought I was elin in Vertigo 2 and went after me just for that, I feel like I have the right. ^_^

How many times do I have to tell you I went after you in Vertigo2 not because I thought you were elin but because I knew you had an alliance that didn't include me? And while we're airing dirty laundry your game would have been swimming along perfectly with or without me if you hadn't decided to evict someone just because you thought he was SJ only to find out that he wasn't.
And while we're at it, let's not forget that you were an admin in JH4 but tried to DQ SJ so many times just because he was SJ that Brightside banned you.
For someone who's so religious that you pray before every challenge, you seem to have forgotten that adage "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" or some shit like that.

Oh and I'm not going to out the other person, but you accepted help not just from me but from someone else for those competitions. Back in those days, you wanted to win so bad you were less self-righteous and insufferable.
Why aren't you pointing your finger at grows, who I have provided sufficient evidence against? She is the starter of all things evil in games.
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All your ranting and crying about the mods rigging the game by merely asking the jurors to keep an open mind. And here you are getting answers from a jury member.

Did it ever occur to you to maybe say something to one of the admins in any game you've played where cheating went on? I'm betting the answer is no because it gave you the advantage.

This whole thing truly sickens me.
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May 18 2008, 06:23 PM
All your ranting and crying about the mods rigging the game by merely asking the jurors to keep an open mind. And here you are getting answers from a jury member.

Did it ever occur to you to maybe say something to one of the admins in any game you've played where cheating went on? I'm betting the answer is no because it gave you the advantage.

This whole thing truly sickens me.

Same here. And it's funny how it's ALWAYS the same people who rant and get pissed off about games. :wacko:
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I've already accept that and moved on, grows. I asked Rudy to give the person who I screwed over my apology, so I hope he did. I made the same mistake in BBC because I thought Pauline was Jude.

I tried to DQ Jude so many times in JH4? What? I just thought he should have had the Ruby Veto removed because he was openly telling people he held it, yet the rules stated that he had to remain silent about it. And it was completely different than CC's Coup situation in BBC. Jude literally would pm people, "I wouldn't worry about the ruby veto ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)." I alerted Brightside and was ignored, so I decided to tell Jude. He was voted out two or three rounds later and decided to blame me because I made him "panic." Nobody in the game knew what I was doing by the way - I thought I did a good job of keeping my thoughts under wraps while trying to get some work done.

People are allowed to lie in ORGs. :lbf
1st GTS Awards
Best Rivalry: Black House vs. All (BB Pentagon)
Best Alliance: Jungle Fever (BB Pentagon)
Best Individual Game: Alton (BB Pentagon)

2nd GTS Awards
Worst Strategic Decision: Candice nominating/evicting Yul (Vertigo 2)
Best Eviction: Candice (Vertigo 2)
Best Villain: Luce (BB Cupid)
Best Winner: Luna (Harry Potter) :<3
Best Individual Game: Luna (Harry Potter) ~ repeat win :<3
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In retrospect, and I said this to Josh already, I thought him giving his password to Luce proving I being a lying asshole in Cupid was actually a good move. And at the time it wasn't a rule that we couldn't do that.
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Ace that's right about White Boy... I had no idea any drama was going on involving him.

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May 18 2008, 06:23 PM
All your ranting and crying about the mods rigging the game by merely asking the jurors to keep an open mind. And here you are getting answers from a jury member.

Did it ever occur to you to maybe say something to one of the admins in any game you've played where cheating went on? I'm betting the answer is no because it gave you the advantage.

This whole thing truly sickens me.

Sorry, Martrae. Truly am, and I apologize for what happened! It was wrong for me to accept the help, and I should have denied it, denied it, denied it! I feel like I learned my lesson afterwards, so when grows was out of BBC, I never told her I was Luce until 1 second before the cast reveal. And I remember she was bitching me out about Luce on AIM, telling me it was either elinorrigby and MidnightPrince, and I was just nodding my head aimlessly.

However, for your other question, has anyone ever outed someone else for cheating besides Ralphie, who only did it because she was out of the game? I didn't want to get Grows caught for cheating so bad every time because I liked her, but I felt she went overboard big time in Vertigo 2, especially seeing that she hosts games herself.

You're very hostile today, Martrae. You can't think I have cheated in multiple games? Why aren't you pointing your finger at grows, who I have provided sufficient evidence against? She is the starter of all things evil in games, so why must you accuse me. I worked damn hard to keep my ID a secret in almost every game, and it blew up on me three times - my fault or cheaters' faults?
1st GTS Awards
Best Rivalry: Black House vs. All (BB Pentagon)
Best Alliance: Jungle Fever (BB Pentagon)
Best Individual Game: Alton (BB Pentagon)

2nd GTS Awards
Worst Strategic Decision: Candice nominating/evicting Yul (Vertigo 2)
Best Eviction: Candice (Vertigo 2)
Best Villain: Luce (BB Cupid)
Best Winner: Luna (Harry Potter) :<3
Best Individual Game: Luna (Harry Potter) ~ repeat win :<3
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May 18 2008, 06:28 PM
In retrospect, and I said this to Josh already, I thought him giving his password to Luce proving I being a lying asshole in Cupid was actually a good move. And at the time it wasn't a rule that we couldn't do that.

Thanks :wub:

I'll explain the full situation for the others:

Pauline (Josh) accused Garcia (ptcruisn) of lying. I trusted Garcia, so I cussed Pauline out publicly. Pauline decided to give me her password, so I could have proof of the information - she even told me that it was in page 3 of her inbox.

I checked the rules - nothing against it. I asked Remote personally on AIM if I was allowed to do it - answer was yes. So I checked. I looked at her confessional too - clicked on the thread with the most replies, but it was just a game stats thread, but then I logged off and never attempted to log on again. Hell, I thought she changed her password, which she apparently didn't.

I still don't understand why people think it's cheating when I freaking had the host's permission and everything. Sure, I would never give away my pw, but it was brilliant on Pauline's part - never would have thought of that myself.
1st GTS Awards
Best Rivalry: Black House vs. All (BB Pentagon)
Best Alliance: Jungle Fever (BB Pentagon)
Best Individual Game: Alton (BB Pentagon)

2nd GTS Awards
Worst Strategic Decision: Candice nominating/evicting Yul (Vertigo 2)
Best Eviction: Candice (Vertigo 2)
Best Villain: Luce (BB Cupid)
Best Winner: Luna (Harry Potter) :<3
Best Individual Game: Luna (Harry Potter) ~ repeat win :<3
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You're very hostile today, Martrae. You can't think I have cheated in multiple games? Why aren't you pointing your finger at grows, who I have provided sufficient evidence against? She is the starter of all things evil in games, so why must you accuse me. I worked damn hard to keep my ID a secret in almost every game, and it blew up on me three times - my fault or cheaters' faults?


I'm the "starter of all things evil in games"?
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Why aren't you pointing your finger at grows, who I have provided sufficient evidence against? She is the starter of all things evil in games.
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Well, at least you aren't denying it, grows!

If the best ammo against me for cheating is the fact that I went on someone's account, whom I had no idea or contact with outside the game, then you know you have little to work with.
1st GTS Awards
Best Rivalry: Black House vs. All (BB Pentagon)
Best Alliance: Jungle Fever (BB Pentagon)
Best Individual Game: Alton (BB Pentagon)

2nd GTS Awards
Worst Strategic Decision: Candice nominating/evicting Yul (Vertigo 2)
Best Eviction: Candice (Vertigo 2)
Best Villain: Luce (BB Cupid)
Best Winner: Luna (Harry Potter) :<3
Best Individual Game: Luna (Harry Potter) ~ repeat win :<3
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Who cares if anyone else has ever done it? What are you a lemming?

You didn't bother bitching about Growsie until AFTER you were booted. And then you did it to Eli instead of Rudy...thereby causing Eli to get kicked from the game after she (properly) complained about it. Her method of complaining wasn't well done but at least she friggin said something. Thing is...she would still be in the game if you had just done the right thing from the start.

And damn right I'm hostile. You went on a tirade after JH3 like Ralphie and Brightside were actively campaigning against you (when they weren't) when all the time you had cheated to get to F2. How much of your jury answers were handed to you too?

As for not rampaging on Growsie...it's your "I'm lily-white" act that's gotten under my collar at this moment.
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Read thread. My best ammo (and the thing other people are worked up about) is the fact that you're not even denying that you had help in JH3, and the fact that you're blaming it all on me as if I had a gun pointed to your head is really hypocritical.
Why aren't you pointing your finger at grows, who I have provided sufficient evidence against? She is the starter of all things evil in games.
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See, Martrae, once again, you over-exaggerate things. I cheated my way to the final 2? What? I got help on the part 3 challenge of the final 3 challenge - so I had a 50/50 chance at winning that anyway - maybe more since I knew the jurors more than you did, no offense.

Why did I bitch about Grows after the game? Hmm, because she forced me to work my hardest to play for me and her, while she was free to do as she pleased because I played fairly and told nobody my ID? And when she targeted me for what she thought was revenge against Elin was when I had enough - coincidentally after my boot.

And believe me, Elin and I discussed Grows' cheating after my boot, so don't think that I didn't have a say in that one.

How many jury answers were handed to me? None at all. I didn't know Grows' question too, if that's what you were asking. The only thing grows told me of the jury is that they "loved me," and I was going to win. Yeah, that boosted my confidence, but did it help me with jury responses? Heck no.

You know I always complain about admins - it's what I do! When I saw Monica eye-rolling people when they said they loved April, how am I supposed to respond? And when they tell people to vote on gameplay after someone posts that they want me to win because they like me better, is that not attempted swaying? You may think not, but to this day, I think it crossed a line.
1st GTS Awards
Best Rivalry: Black House vs. All (BB Pentagon)
Best Alliance: Jungle Fever (BB Pentagon)
Best Individual Game: Alton (BB Pentagon)

2nd GTS Awards
Worst Strategic Decision: Candice nominating/evicting Yul (Vertigo 2)
Best Eviction: Candice (Vertigo 2)
Best Villain: Luce (BB Cupid)
Best Winner: Luna (Harry Potter) :<3
Best Individual Game: Luna (Harry Potter) ~ repeat win :<3
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I don't hate Jude as much as I used to but it was OH SO FUN to vote him out of JH4 as White Boy. One of my crowning achievements...it was a group effort. carry on.
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Can't people just


STOP CHEATING
STOP QUITTING*
STOP RIGGING
STOP ACCUSING GAMES OF BEING RIGGED



so we can ALL have a better time playing these great games? Kthxia. :wub:



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May 18 2008, 06:42 PM
Read thread. My best ammo (and the thing other people are worked up about) is the fact that you're not even denying that you had help in JH3, and the fact that you're blaming it all on me as if I had a gun pointed to your head is really hypocritical.

Ok, well at least we know that you were the ringleader in talking outside that game, and you knowingly did it when you saw the outcast twist, especially when you were cheating with SFGP too, except he vetoed me over you when I wasn't even pleading with him on AIM like someone else. :wub:
1st GTS Awards
Best Rivalry: Black House vs. All (BB Pentagon)
Best Alliance: Jungle Fever (BB Pentagon)
Best Individual Game: Alton (BB Pentagon)

2nd GTS Awards
Worst Strategic Decision: Candice nominating/evicting Yul (Vertigo 2)
Best Eviction: Candice (Vertigo 2)
Best Villain: Luce (BB Cupid)
Best Winner: Luna (Harry Potter) :<3
Best Individual Game: Luna (Harry Potter) ~ repeat win :<3
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STOP ACTING LIKE YOU DID NOTHING WRONG!

No one fucking forced you to do any goddamn thing. You did what you did and it wasn't until it messed up your game that you bitched about it. End of story.

And as far as cheating your way to F2...I'm hearing rumors that wasn't the only incident but that's all I've heard, that there was more to it. No specifics, which is why I asked about jury answers.

Christ, I'm just going to start doing like I did before and ask the admins if either you or Growsie are playing and if they say "I can't answer that" I'm gonna pass.
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May 18 2008, 06:56 PM
STOP ACTING LIKE YOU DID NOTHING WRONG!

No one fucking forced you to do any goddamn thing. You did what you did and it wasn't until it messed up your game that you bitched about it. End of story.

And as far as cheating your way to F2...I'm hearing rumors that wasn't the only incident but that's all I've heard, that there was more to it. No specifics, which is why I asked about jury answers.

Christ, I'm just going to start doing like I did before and ask the admins if either you or Growsie are playing and if they say "I can't answer that" I'm gonna pass.

Flawless jury responses doesn't mean I knew the Q's in advance, Martrae! :lbf

Uh, Martrae, you can ask any host. I am constantly bitching in my confessional about people cheating and the fear of it as well.

Sure, you can do that, Martrae. I don't think that question has ever held any weight before, but if it makes you feel better, you may as well ask the hosts that. And to top it off, I'm not playing any games anymore, so you can have that satisfaction as well.
1st GTS Awards
Best Rivalry: Black House vs. All (BB Pentagon)
Best Alliance: Jungle Fever (BB Pentagon)
Best Individual Game: Alton (BB Pentagon)

2nd GTS Awards
Worst Strategic Decision: Candice nominating/evicting Yul (Vertigo 2)
Best Eviction: Candice (Vertigo 2)
Best Villain: Luce (BB Cupid)
Best Winner: Luna (Harry Potter) :<3
Best Individual Game: Luna (Harry Potter) ~ repeat win :<3
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