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I think it is safe to say most hosts would prefer you be in only one game at a time. They want active players who are great confessional writers. Not novels but at least regular updates on where you stand. They want people who actually show up at challenges and try.

If a host thinks enough of you to ask you to his game you should think enough of him to be committed to it.
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Aug 27 2010, 02:50 PM
I played Famehwore/Redux 14 and Negress Showdown AT THE SAME TIME!

I was in solid alliances in all of them so I didn't have to do much :wub:

and Emcee what is this clique you're talking about? I'm not involved in any cliques :(

This was what I was referring to....

Why is it good for any of the games that you didn't have to do much of anything? It's jut a waste of a space really.




To the others, being in two games at once can be good, if you've got too much time on your hands. That way you don't overplay your cards in one game due to excessive activity. I know when I played in first game as Dreamz, I got so into it that I basically tried to be a puppetmaster, and I was the third boot. Slowing down the pace a bit is helpful for those of us with no life in the summer.
FML's Vampires: David (1st/14th)
KMK's Celeb Survivor 2: Chuck Norris (4th/24)
NBS' Rwanda: Cao Boi (5th/18)
SF429's BB Remix 3: The Don (5th/12)
Brightside's Bahamas: Joanne (7th/16)
Shal's Expedition Azores: Brian (8th/16)
Gnarls' Famewhore 4: Antoine (9th/20)
SF429's Redux 14: Rudy (9th/12)
UD's Negresses: Zahara (10th/14)
FML's Isla Redonda: Dreamz (16th/18)
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Wait, what exactly are we fighting about?

Oh, and I kinda agree with Emcee. The latest bunch of new people have been doing way too many games at a time. Not that they are bad. Yet, can you please stop and do one game at a time or two? Maybe you can actually improve your skills if you take it slower?

I know I have no room to really talk, as I have never won, but I think that I am doing better. <3
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Emcee Hutch
Aug 27 2010, 02:38 PM
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Aug 27 2010, 12:52 PM
I think one also needs to take into consideration the caliber of the games in which players compete.

The cast can make a huge difference. And I don't mean to discredit games or hosts, but I think say a win in one of JeffP3's Survivor games is a much bigger accomplishment than winning a game run by a new host with a inactive/inexperienced cast.

Superjude for example won in FML's China. From what I've read, that game was both extremely competitive and had a fantastic cast.

I think Taylorstreet's most "competitive" game could be classified as Brawl...where I think quite a bit of the "veteran players" were wiped out in twists. I mean I got third there, and will be the first to admit that luck played a huge role in getting to the merge. Yes, you had to utilize your secret group etc, but if it had been straight up Survivor, for example, I'd say about half of the merge players would not have made it there.


I think we all know in general that the FML/JeffP3/etc games are a lot better, difficult and complex than say EDP :lbf But I disagree with what you're saying.

A lot of people want to up their ranking (Personally, I think we should just do away with the entire rankings list and let people have fun :shrug ), but by crediting certain games as 'better' or 'worthy of a higher percentage' than others, you're pretty much saying to all the nerds here "Hey, don't play in these games. Just play in these games." You're also leaving part of the rankings up to an opinion, and opinions have no room in statistics.

Besides, every cast nowadays, even in legit games like FML, Redux, and Stranded are all made up of IYBIL, VMK, Blueberry, Crazyalexi just total noobs who suck and are inactive but think they're good players because that entire 'clique' invades the game so that's how it is. Every game is turning into EDP. :shrug


So essentially, game value is worthless. A lot of different things can factor into a game. So there's no need to go behind the veil.


What I think should be done is for those who win to receive bonus points in the rankings on their victory. That should even everything out.

Trust me, I understand your argument as well. I wasn't saying I had a way of changing the rankings because how does one decide what game is better. Or that that game is the only game one should play in. I certainly shouldn't have the power to make that decision. And I think like a lot of people are saying, games are just numbers. And if I were to make my list of top ten players, it would include as others were saying CR, DGT, FB- players who aren't in the top ten right now.

And like you said, some games are now plagued by "weaker" players. And by this, I mean newer players who over extend themselves. Could a ranking be done where someone is ranked by how they stand up to players on the ranking? Example, you get more points if you beat the number 5, than the number 117. But that would be impossible, and not effective either.

I HATE playing in two games at once, but that can be done. More than two? Don't even try. And if I ever get caught playing in two, one's normally ending, so I fuck up the opening in the other OR have to recover.

I do think Emcee is right. Perhaps a win should be worth more? But does it really matter? I think we all have our different opinions of who is a good player, and well value different things. And then there are some players like PT who explore different avenues of game play, and are thus lower on the list.

I think what I'm saying in my long rambling is everyone has different criteria, so it'd be impossible to create a ranking we'll all like. :shrug


ETA: By caliber of the game, I wasn't suggesting hosts are better. (although some are) I'm saying that a game with a fully active, strong cast WILL always be harder to win than one without.
Paraguay - Amanda: 2/16
Vertigo 6 - Solid Snake: 1/14 WINNER
Harry Potter II - Bellatrix: 12/16 (Quit)
I Love BB Survivor - Mike: 4/18
Final Fantasy - Terra: 2/18
Samoa - Russell H: 10/20
Pixar - Marlin: 2/20
Nightclub 3 - Zookini: 2/18
HvV - Cirie: 11/20
CR's BvF - John K: 1/20 WINNER
SSBB - Solid Snake: 3/36
Chaos BB - Danielle: 9/13
Vertigo 9 - Drake: 7/18
Breaking Sunny - Jesse: 1/20 WINNER
Harry Potter III - Molly: 3/20
Versus - Solid Snake: 1/32 WINNER
PG4 - Marie Antoinette: 1/13 WINNER
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Why don't we let God decide. :shrug
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~~ cues the influx of god-themed ghosties ~~
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Aug 27 2010, 05:04 PM
~~ cues the influx of god-themed ghosties ~~

I say we base the ranking system entirely on the number of ghosties you have. -_-
Paraguay - Amanda: 2/16
Vertigo 6 - Solid Snake: 1/14 WINNER
Harry Potter II - Bellatrix: 12/16 (Quit)
I Love BB Survivor - Mike: 4/18
Final Fantasy - Terra: 2/18
Samoa - Russell H: 10/20
Pixar - Marlin: 2/20
Nightclub 3 - Zookini: 2/18
HvV - Cirie: 11/20
CR's BvF - John K: 1/20 WINNER
SSBB - Solid Snake: 3/36
Chaos BB - Danielle: 9/13
Vertigo 9 - Drake: 7/18
Breaking Sunny - Jesse: 1/20 WINNER
Harry Potter III - Molly: 3/20
Versus - Solid Snake: 1/32 WINNER
PG4 - Marie Antoinette: 1/13 WINNER
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Yay, let's do that and see if Emcee then wants to do away with the ranking list :lol: because it takes away from the fun.
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I'll stop signing up to play so many games at once :(
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I did 4 at once and will never do that again. Though I actually did my best in those games because I was online all day pretty much. But I will never do that ever again. But I didn't neglect one game over another it's not that hard to balance since I balance a whole lot of shit in RL. But it's way too damn stressful. And my confessionals were at their best then because I had to write everything down so that I didn't forget it from game to game. But to anyone out there do NOT do it it's not worth it.
ETA: Also it wasn't on purpose lol. I just have to learn how to say no.
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Aug 27 2010, 02:47 PM
I haven't seen any of them play, except IYBIL who sucked, so how am I supposed to know? Still, I would bet money on at least half of them being decent when they're active.

Exactly. If you haven't seen them play then shut your yap. I've played in 2 games with this group. The problem main problem is that they aren't active. In anything. They show up for challenges (rarely) and barely PM so they have no social game. They aren't learning because they are the ones playing the most games here. Mainly because of the stupid rankings. :rolleyes:
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I don't even know why I am in this debate. I don't give a shit about the Rankings. It should be done away with to be honest. If there were no rankings you'd see people having more fun and less gamebots. Some people don't even play games because of it may affect their ranking. :alien
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The rankings don't mean anything. See: Taylor Street being #1.
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This is a huge problem. I hate being a GTSbot.
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I don't know if I count as a noob but i kind of see both sides of the argument here. I think it does matter who you play with. For example in my first game the only new (or relativley new) people were me, IYBIL, and CrazyAlexi and we were all out pre-merge so i think it might be something. It was like my irst games, and i was able to keep up in pms but i also couldn't handle the deals i was making. every single time someone offered me somthing i would take it seriously.

Now that i have had time to reflect i was purely a terrible player then. I don't know if i play again it would be that bad, but I really am planning on improving and doing better. To do that i have lurked at a few games to try to help me improve by watching the other (more experienced) players as they go.

I haven't gotten a chance to play with a game with little to no veterans, but i feel it would be much easier to do so. As you probably wouldn't have to send as long pms and wouldn't have to be as social as you normally would. But like i said before it all depends.
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Aug 27 2010, 05:07 PM
This is a huge problem. I hate being a GTSbot.

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Being in two games at once was MISERABLE for me. I was in LOST for a bit and turned down Stranded, but once LOST was so inactive, I joined Stranded. It wasn't as bad for the pre-merge, but I literally had two merges in back to back days, and THAT was hard. Not to mention getting voted out on back to back days was pretty awful, too :angry:
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Aug 27 2010, 03:35 PM
Not to mention getting voted out on back to back days was pretty awful, too :angry:

That would suck, but I don't think anyone can top emcee getting voted out of three games in one night :lawl

Anyway, the most important purpose of this ranking is obvi to find out which pokemon you are :wub: I need to either do really well in my next game and try and bump myself up, or tank it.... or wait for LB and VMK to debut really high..... Raticate is just not cute :alien
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Aug 27 2010, 04:27 PM
I think it is safe to say most hosts would prefer you be in only one game at a time. They want active players who are great confessional writers. Not novels but at least regular updates on where you stand. They want people who actually show up at challenges and try.

If a host thinks enough of you to ask you to his game you should think enough of him to be committed to it.

This so much. Nothing is more disappointing than seeing another cast reveal during your game and realizing that one or more of your players was playing too. Well, there are more disappointing things. ^_^

And I would also like to echo Chad and say that this is just a numbers things. It's a statistical ranking and anyone who thinks anything else is just ruining it for themselves. I like statistics, and obviously Quid does too. If you're looking for the best player, then I don't think this thread is the way to find them.

Statistically speaking, Taylor has the best average placing at GTS. Whether you like him and his game play or not, that's true.
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This summer I played in 3 games, and I think for a few days where two overlapped, 4 games at once. I don't think I disappointed any of the hosts (although it was clear I was not putting in the effort I usually do) and yeah, it was a huge mistake. It turned me off of games completely for a long while.
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Aug 26 2010, 11:52 PM
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Didn't SJ get to #1 and retire, too? Or was he there for a while before retiring?

It would have had to be some old ranking system (CA's?), as this current one didn't exist until last fall, long after he had retired.

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Some of these Taylor Street haterade posts are a little laughable.

He does compare to SuperJude, we have a rankings system that crunched the numbers and spit out what it did for a reason.

Throwing out the numbers whenever you like is pretty ridic.

Until SuperJude comes and owns Taylor Street, TS is the better player, the numbers don't lie.


I for one have never said that the rankings were anything other than something done for fun. TS has a high ranking in a very small sample size. Having a really good run for a five game stretch is one thing, but to do it as many times as someone like SJ or chad6 has done is what I would have to see to consider TS in that conversation. Although I will admit that I am in at least some way biased as my own gaming experience with TS he was in my eyes a horrible, horrible player and huge goat.

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If you can't hide your identity, then you are an awful player. Not only that, but I consider people cheating if they continue to do something they know others will recognize.


This, coming from the person who played Jake is laughable. :rolleyes: That might have been the most obvious ID in my ORG history.

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I don't know if I count as a noob but i kind of see both sides of the argument here. I think it does matter who you play with. For example in my first game the only new (or relativley new) people were me, IYBIL, and CrazyAlexi and we were all out pre-merge so i think it might be something. It was like my irst games, and i was able to keep up in pms but i also couldn't handle the deals i was making. every single time someone offered me somthing i would take it seriously.


Actually, the winner was a newb too, it was his/her first game. :dance

What I think gets completely lost in the whole multiple games at once thing is that I think hosts are casting games with way too many players, and too many inexperienced or newbie hosts are jumping into the frey at the same time. The environment is just flooded with so many games and players to cast that the multiple games at once and inactive players is a necessity.
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