| I HAVE A CONFESSION; Part Two | |
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| <span style=MultiGeminii | Jun 29 2010, 08:24 PM Post #181 |
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Loves Money
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Honestly madhack? It looked to me like you were just trying to end the conversation, "the host has spoken, no need for anyone else to comment." No one disrespected anyone, certainly not SF429, who most everyone loves and respects mucho. But his opinion on what happened in the game is just that. It doesn't mean everyone needs to stop talking or that people stating they don't want to play in games with cheating are being disrespectful. |
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| <span style=madhackrviper | Jun 29 2010, 08:26 PM Post #182 |
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"The FKACMF"
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I was just explaining my mindset. |
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| <span style=madhackrviper | Jun 29 2010, 08:28 PM Post #183 |
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"The FKACMF"
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I was trying to end the conversation But you're probably right. I wasn't considering what the players in Redux Guat thought of the situation. |
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| <span style=island sun | Jun 29 2010, 08:38 PM Post #184 |
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Dracotrix <3
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Let's all look at the cute wittle puppy. ![]() awwwwwwww |
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| <span style=UD | Jun 29 2010, 08:44 PM Post #185 |
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Refined Southern Gentleman
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well I won Redux so I obviously don't care. I don't remember much about Rafe at all truthfully. I'm not sure if he contributed to much. |
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| <span style=Pulau Tiga | Jun 29 2010, 08:58 PM Post #186 |
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cacafuego
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Rafe was a wonderful addition to the game that helped me be as destructive as I was.
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| <span style=Cassidy666 | Jun 29 2010, 09:06 PM Post #187 |
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ORG Legend
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Seriously, guys. Cheating, overt or subtle, with or without malice aforethought, is not okay. That's the only point being made here. No one is ganging up on Rudy and if that's considered ganging up then I think everyone here has very thin skins. If anyone here does something wrong that they regret, an apology and a promise not to make an error of judgment again should suffice. I remember when PT screwed up and logged into a juror's account, he apologized about it and knew what a huge mistake it was and no one has held it against him since then and he's still a big part of this community here. The responsibility of the host is to catch anything possible and exercise judgment if anything questionable happens. Since Rudy's case is something that was long past and gone, the host can't do anything but it does not erase the fact it was still wrong and unfair to anyone playing. This is just one of the overt things that is not koser in games. The more subtle forms of cheating where there is a grey area, like identifying IDs in games in a way that is unsaid, are probably never going to get caught or called out. I personally know of instances of it and to be honest, from what I've heard, it has mainly resulted negatively so anyone doing that do it at their own peril. In the end, these games are trivial. And these games are supposed to be FUN. When players hear about these kinds of things going on in games they were in or that they hosted, it takes that all away. I think that's the thing everyone should keep in mind when playing games. Respecting the host and the other players helps maximise the enjoyment from it. For everyone. |
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| <span style=TaylorStreet | Jun 29 2010, 11:14 PM Post #188 |
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Back In Action
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Confession: I am SuperJude
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| <span style=samsgap | Jul 2 2010, 06:56 PM Post #189 |
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samsgap the great
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I mainly don't play ORGs anymore bc it just began to feel as if casts were often the same ppl over and over. But I've been in games where players have been DQd for AIM chatting and am familiar with rumors of cheating. V2 (another Longcat appearance) among them. Rudy, like others, I believe logging in to both player & lurker accts in Guatemala was cheating. I don't care how you spin it. It should have been part of your confession, imo. And to dis MG like you did, for bringing it up...that was low. As for cheating in general...how proud of one's wins, rankings, stats, whatever...could one be if attained by cheating? It just seems so hollow to me. Not to mention the disrespect that it is to the host and fellow castmates...and the time and effort they invested in creating/participating in the game. eta: "logging in" |
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| <span style=GnarlsOakley | Jul 2 2010, 08:28 PM Post #190 |
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WWLVD?
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No I am |
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| <span style=Jack Tourette | Jul 3 2010, 01:05 AM Post #191 |
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Ima gonna win!
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I was SuperJude back in 1994 |
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| <span style=SurvivorFan429 | Jul 3 2010, 08:56 AM Post #192 |
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BETRAYED <_<
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I'm not saying what Rudy did was alright with me. It's not in the slightest, but I'm going onto Redux 14 and it was a while ago that all of this occurred. Rudy as Longcat as Rafe didn't really do much to affect the game as far as I can tell. Rafe was a hot mess who went inactive for like a week or two, came back and was quickly voted out because no one liked him. He didn't make any major moves or even make the jury. And I will add that as much as I love the old school gamers I played with a few years ago, it's really nice to have new players and fresh faces because everyone ultimately knew everybody in games, we all just recycled each other as much as possible with a few newbies mixed in. I think if you're a really excellent gamer, you can hide who you are. I can tell you that Redux 13 had a lot of Redux newbies and it turned out to be a pretty great game all around. Lots of wonderful players and characters. And speaking of Rudy as Longcat, I'm sure there are a lot of players crafting new identities to play in games. First of all, if they're going so far as to do that just to play in my game (and TO PLAY, not sabotage), then I'm OK with that. I'd prefer they be honest with me, but it is what it is. It's also why I'm no longer allowing lurkers and will be very careful in who I have as co-hosts. We all need to really take a step back and not take things so seriously. We all make mistakes, we do things we regret. It's easy to stay mad, but it's harder to forgive. I take the hard road and I forgive Rudy for what he did. |
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| <span style=foulmouthedleon | Jul 3 2010, 10:40 AM Post #193 |
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I think Cassidy pretty much said it best. |
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| <span style=NickF227 | Jul 3 2010, 11:46 AM Post #194 |
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You didn't even ask how my day went!
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hay guys wall-e cheated in sil and pt cheated in real world vs. road rules. So I won twice now k?
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| <span style=theChief | Jul 3 2010, 10:52 PM Post #195 |
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ORG n00b
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![]() as a newb, I was really worried about this during redux 13... So much so that I put some bogus confessionals up for 3-4 rounds so that I could see if anyones games changed. When 429 assured me there were no lurkers, I felt better about telling the truth in my confessional again. |
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| <span style=madhackrviper | Jul 3 2010, 11:06 PM Post #196 |
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"The FKACMF"
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Whoa, really?
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| <span style=spnintendo | Jul 3 2010, 11:13 PM Post #197 |
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Purple Domination
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That's a bit extreme.
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| <span style=Kyle | Jul 3 2010, 11:37 PM Post #198 |
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ORG Legend
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Yeah you should have at least asked the host FIRST whether there were lurkers that had access to your confessional.
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| <span style=Maj | Jul 3 2010, 11:47 PM Post #199 |
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Purple Majra
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Most hosts don't even allow lurkers confessional access. Like, ever. I can only think of three instances off the top of my head, and each time it was because the host only had a few lurkers and basically hand picked 'em all.
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| <span style=Josseppe95 | Jul 4 2010, 12:58 AM Post #200 |
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[00:18] goohst Jones: ninja is a sex pervert
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X so fucking much to this. |
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