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I HAVE A CONFESSION; Part Two
Topic Started: Jun 26 2010, 08:18 AM (3,983 Views)
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Honestly madhack? It looked to me like you were just trying to end the conversation, "the host has spoken, no need for anyone else to comment." No one disrespected anyone, certainly not SF429, who most everyone loves and respects mucho. But his opinion on what happened in the game is just that. It doesn't mean everyone needs to stop talking or that people stating they don't want to play in games with cheating are being disrespectful.
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Jun 29 2010, 08:05 PM
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Jun 29 2010, 08:06 PM
As for the host v players thing, I think everyone knows that there have been many times where I've seen people call out a host and gotten very angry with them for it.

I just tend to trust a quality host. I tend to divert to host authority. Sometimes when I see something questionable, I'll contact them in private, but in the end respect their final call for what it is. And I NEVER call out a host on challenges or twists, only in the way they communicate with the players.

My mindset has always been that host authority is number one. I see the other side of it I  guess it's just not where my mindset is.

Huh? That's completely different.

Who was talking about players respecting the hosts? I must have missed something.

I was just explaining my mindset.
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Jun 29 2010, 08:24 PM
Honestly madhack? It looked to me like you were just trying to end the conversation, "the host has spoken, no need for anyone else to comment." No one disrespected anyone, certainly not SF429, who most everyone loves and respects mucho. But his opinion on what happened in the game is just that. It doesn't mean everyone needs to stop talking or that people stating they don't want to play in games with cheating are being disrespectful.

I was trying to end the conversation :lbf

But you're probably right. I wasn't considering what the players in Redux Guat thought of the situation.
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well I won Redux so I obviously don't care. I don't remember much about Rafe at all truthfully. I'm not sure if he contributed to much.
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Rafe was a wonderful addition to the game that helped me be as destructive as I was. :wub:
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Seriously, guys. Cheating, overt or subtle, with or without malice aforethought, is not okay. That's the only point being made here. No one is ganging up on Rudy and if that's considered ganging up then I think everyone here has very thin skins.

If anyone here does something wrong that they regret, an apology and a promise not to make an error of judgment again should suffice. I remember when PT screwed up and logged into a juror's account, he apologized about it and knew what a huge mistake it was and no one has held it against him since then and he's still a big part of this community here.

The responsibility of the host is to catch anything possible and exercise judgment if anything questionable happens. Since Rudy's case is something that was long past and gone, the host can't do anything but it does not erase the fact it was still wrong and unfair to anyone playing.

This is just one of the overt things that is not koser in games. The more subtle forms of cheating where there is a grey area, like identifying IDs in games in a way that is unsaid, are probably never going to get caught or called out. I personally know of instances of it and to be honest, from what I've heard, it has mainly resulted negatively so anyone doing that do it at their own peril.

In the end, these games are trivial. And these games are supposed to be FUN. When players hear about these kinds of things going on in games they were in or that they hosted, it takes that all away. I think that's the thing everyone should keep in mind when playing games. Respecting the host and the other players helps maximise the enjoyment from it. For everyone.
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I mainly don't play ORGs anymore bc it just began to feel as if casts were often the same ppl over and over. But I've been in games where players have been DQd for AIM chatting and am familiar with rumors of cheating. V2 (another Longcat appearance) among them.

Rudy, like others, I believe logging in to both player & lurker accts in Guatemala was cheating. I don't care how you spin it. It should have been part of your confession, imo. And to dis MG like you did, for bringing it up...that was low.

As for cheating in general...how proud of one's wins, rankings, stats, whatever...could one be if attained by cheating? It just seems so hollow to me. Not to mention the disrespect that it is to the host and fellow castmates...and the time and effort they invested in creating/participating in the game.

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Jun 30 2010, 04:14 AM
Confession:

I am SuperJude :o

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I'm not saying what Rudy did was alright with me. It's not in the slightest, but I'm going onto Redux 14 and it was a while ago that all of this occurred. Rudy as Longcat as Rafe didn't really do much to affect the game as far as I can tell. Rafe was a hot mess who went inactive for like a week or two, came back and was quickly voted out because no one liked him. He didn't make any major moves or even make the jury.

And I will add that as much as I love the old school gamers I played with a few years ago, it's really nice to have new players and fresh faces because everyone ultimately knew everybody in games, we all just recycled each other as much as possible with a few newbies mixed in. I think if you're a really excellent gamer, you can hide who you are.

I can tell you that Redux 13 had a lot of Redux newbies and it turned out to be a pretty great game all around. Lots of wonderful players and characters. And speaking of Rudy as Longcat, I'm sure there are a lot of players crafting new identities to play in games. First of all, if they're going so far as to do that just to play in my game (and TO PLAY, not sabotage), then I'm OK with that. I'd prefer they be honest with me, but it is what it is. It's also why I'm no longer allowing lurkers and will be very careful in who I have as co-hosts.

We all need to really take a step back and not take things so seriously. We all make mistakes, we do things we regret. It's easy to stay mad, but it's harder to forgive. I take the hard road and I forgive Rudy for what he did.
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I think Cassidy pretty much said it best.
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hay guys wall-e cheated in sil and pt cheated in real world vs. road rules.

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I'm not saying what Rudy did was alright with me. It's not in the slightest, but I'm going onto Redux 14 and it was a while ago that all of this occurred. Rudy as Longcat as Rafe didn't really do much to affect the game as far as I can tell. Rafe was a hot mess who went inactive for like a week or two, came back and was quickly voted out because no one liked him. He didn't make any major moves or even make the jury.

And I will add that as much as I love the old school gamers I played with a few years ago, it's really nice to have new players and fresh faces because everyone ultimately knew everybody in games, we all just recycled each other as much as possible with a few newbies mixed in. I think if you're a really excellent gamer, you can hide who you are.

I can tell you that Redux 13 had a lot of Redux newbies and it turned out to be a pretty great game all around. Lots of wonderful players and characters. And speaking of Rudy as Longcat, I'm sure there are a lot of players crafting new identities to play in games. First of all, if they're going so far as to do that just to play in my game (and TO PLAY, not sabotage), then I'm OK with that. I'd prefer they be honest with me, but it is what it is. It's also why I'm no longer allowing lurkers and will be very careful in who I have as co-hosts.

We all need to really take a step back and not take things so seriously. We all make mistakes, we do things we regret. It's easy to stay mad, but it's harder to forgive. I take the hard road and I forgive Rudy for what he did.

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as a newb, I was really worried about this during redux 13... So much so that I put some bogus confessionals up for 3-4 rounds so that I could see if anyones games changed. When 429 assured me there were no lurkers, I felt better about telling the truth in my confessional again.
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:lbf That's a bit extreme.
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Yeah you should have at least asked the host FIRST whether there were lurkers that had access to your confessional. :wtf2
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Most hosts don't even allow lurkers confessional access. Like, ever. I can only think of three instances off the top of my head, and each time it was because the host only had a few lurkers and basically hand picked 'em all. :wub:
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Jun 29 2010, 06:49 PM
Shut up AFE. You of all people have no reason to get morally indignant about anything. The shit you pull on people.

Last time I checked my shirt doesn't say "speak nerdy to me" *looks @ your ex*

What does that have to do with anything?

Of course though, since you're the biggest creep on the internet, the moment a real life picture is posted you're going to be all over that.

I should have known you'd be sitting around and waiting to jump on it the moment an RL pic was posted and just left it alone.

for once in my life I could not agree with you more.

I am 100% serious when I say that I think AFE should be banned from GTS and never cast in a game again. Not because he cheats, but because of shit like this. I'm 100% serious that before AFE was here I felt safe here. Even with you UD, I don't feel UNSAFE knowing you're in the community. AFE makes me feel uncomfortable.

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