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Is this a better ranking method?
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I want to propose something
Topic Started: Jun 28 2011, 09:23 PM (1,033 Views)
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So after playing as Sonya I've kind of had a revelation when it comes to rankings. Placement may actually mean nothing at all. I mean can anyone honestly say that the higher you place in a game, the better you are? I don't think so.

But what about the more often you win, the better you are?

I've seen people in some of the recent games I've played playing for second or third and getting pissed when people they think deserve those places don't get it and I think that everyone's just looking at ORGs wrong if you're aiming at second or third and not first.

So what I'm proposing is we do away with the ORG rankings as they currently stand and implement a new ORG ranking system where a person's ranking is determined by the number of games they've won divided by the number of games they've played.

There are several reasons this makes sense:

1) To begin with, I am kind of worried about what would happen to rankings if Quiddity stopped updating them or he lost that excel sheet with all our datas on it. This method allows basically anyone to update the rankings as soon as their game ends more easily and with less math. I know that technically anyone could update the rankings but as it stands having anyone other than Quid do it would be alot of work.

2) It's getting to the point where people who have played alot of games cannot change their ranking. Maj just won three games in a row and I'm fairly certain her ranking will not improve enough to reflect how awesome of a gamer she is. On the other hand there are many players who have never won anything but have made it later into games as goats who are ranked way above her. IDK if that's fair. With this mechanism playing more games gives you more opportunities to improve or "unimprove" your ranking. I mean, once we all get to like 70 or so games are rankings won't change no matter how we place under the current ranking system. Under this other one, I feel like we're more likely to see some change.

3) This method would make people alot less insecure about doing poorly or doing crazy things in games. In a game of 18 people only one will have their ranking improved and the rest will have their ranking lowered. This would stop people who are worried about dropping out of their high ranking spot from avoiding games.

4) It's just always irritated me that someone who has won half of the games they've played is ranked almost on par with someone who has won only one a quarter.

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As an addendum I'd like to add that ties should be broken by who's played more games, since that makes it valuable to play more games.

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I already suggested this, and PT already did it.
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I know but it never took off and you were damn fucking right. I think it's worth pursuing.

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And anyone who has ever played for any place except winning is an idiot.
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I am last except for those who have never won.
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There's so much more to life than winning. :(
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notremojo
Jun 28 2011, 10:32 PM
Can't divide by zero.

0/7=0

Good try.
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island sun
Jun 28 2011, 10:33 PM
There's so much more to life than winning. :(

There's losing.

Island sun must be a loser. :loser
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Thailandsurvivor
Jun 28 2011, 09:33 PM
notremojo
Jun 28 2011, 10:32 PM
Can't divide by zero.

0/7=0

Good try.

That's dividing by 7.

I'm a math major, I know this shit. :oldman
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Thailandsurvivor
Jun 28 2011, 09:33 PM
notremojo
Jun 28 2011, 10:32 PM
Can't divide by zero.

0/7=0

Good try.

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1) Ranking is first determined by win percentage
2) Ties are broken by number of games played
3) You must play five games to be ranked

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island sun
Jun 28 2011, 10:34 PM
Thailandsurvivor
Jun 28 2011, 09:33 PM
notremojo
Jun 28 2011, 10:32 PM
Can't divide by zero.

0/7=0

Good try.

That's dividing by 7.

I'm a math major, I know this shit. :oldman

Why would you divide by 0? No one has ever had a win with no games played. At least as far as I know. :unsure:
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You still can't divide by zero whether it is relevant or not.
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Thailandsurvivor
Jun 28 2011, 09:35 PM
island sun
Jun 28 2011, 10:34 PM
Thailandsurvivor
Jun 28 2011, 09:33 PM
notremojo
Jun 28 2011, 10:32 PM
Can't divide by zero.

0/7=0

Good try.

That's dividing by 7.

I'm a math major, I know this shit. :oldman

Why would you divide by 0? No one has ever had a win with no games played. At least as far as I know. :unsure:

I'm not talking about ORGs here. I'm just sayin "0/7" is taking zero and DIVIDING BY seven. This argument really has nothing at all to do with what this thread's about. I've just been Phillip for a month, so I'm still getting used to not flipping shit on everything people say anymore. :shrug
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Did you act like Phillip in real life during the past month?
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I bet he did, it's so hard not use your shtick IRL.

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Thailandsurvivor
Jun 28 2011, 09:40 PM
Did you act like Phillip in real life during the past month?

Yeah, I don't have many friends left, and my family kind of disowned me after I started taking walks outside in my underwear. :shifty
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Winning doesn't mean that you played the best game though. My only win ever was my worst performance yet. I was barely active throughout and my social game was basically nonexistent. I think I've greatly improved since then and it would be quite lulzy if my merits as a player would be based solely on that game.

Rankings are just for fun, imo.
No.
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K I'm going to stop you right at "winning doesn't mean that you played the best game" and shrug at the rest of what you said cuz clearly you used the right strategy to get yourself to the end and win in that game. It may not be something that made you "interesting" but it did mean you outplayed your competition. If it didn't the concept of survivor is flawed and we should only be awarding money to the sprint fan faves each season.

As to your improvement not being gauged by your great performances as Jade and Doopliss, I don't think there's any ranking system that can capture that. After all that same ranking system says Sonya and Sonic were better characters and I think that is certainly not true.

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