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Book vs. the film
Topic Started: Jan 15 2005, 07:38 PM (922 Views)
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Imagine you were planning to read or watch WD for the first time. Would you watch the film expecting the book to go into more detail, or would you choose the book first and see how the movie measured up to it?

No two ways about it, the only way I'd ever see a film before the book is if I didn't know a book version existed. Books always come first, because if there ever is a question as to what was going on, the book is always right. ;)
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I agree. Once you read the book, you know should be happening, even if what should be doesn't.

Besides, then the movie is always at least a bit different, and you get new suprises.
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It seems I'm the only one so far who prefer to see the movie first... because when I read the book first, I always point out details that is not correctly done. Small details if they are but still, they bother me. Here's an example:

In the book, they say that every WSD rabbit manage to get to WSD alive which, of course, is not the case in the movie with Violet's "incident".

Or in Harry Potter 3, they did not even mention who the 4 guys that created the map really were, and I seriously don,t think they'll say it in the following movies. I'd say that the formula used to open it is more than slightly disturbing when you don,t know the background of the map. "I swear that I have bad intentions" or something like that (I saw it in french and traduced it the best I could). It's easy to misinterpret those words...
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Interesting. I like to read the book first so that I can point out the mistakes- 'tis a favored pastime of my best friend and I.
I think that the whole 'Violet scene' was merely to demonstrate the fact that no does got to WSD, because there was no other reason the create a nonexistant -bookwise- character with no other purpose.

The French translators for a great number of movies seem to choose strange translations...I have only seen a few French movies (or English movies when I lived in France) with coherent translations.
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I think that the whole 'Violet scene' was merely to demonstrate the fact that no does got to WSD, because there was no other reason the create a nonexistant -bookwise- character with no other purpose.

Yes, that's why I think Violet was there. It was told in words that no does made it for the book, but that would be hard to do on the screen since there are clearly does at the warren and one might wonder why none made it along with them when they left Sandleford. ;)
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I think she was placed in the film solely to be killed off, to add you know, emotion or shock to the audience, a death had to occur at some point since I'm quite sure the director thought it would be boring if they went through the whole of the journey without a single death. And they made it a doe just to show that there were no does when they got there.

I'd read the book first, since that's what happened anyway, I can't imagine it anyother way.
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I agree with Nightwing and Rethilzath, in an odd way. I always read the books first. (The case with Jurassic Park and things of that nature, too), but then I annoy myself WITH being able to focus on nothing more than the mistakes sometimes. It's gotten to the point that I can't really enjoy the original Jurassic Park, because my head is always compairing it to the book.

But I was surprised when that didn't happen with Watership Down. I read the book first, and, except for the scene that's already been mentioned (Violet vs. the Hawk). I LOVED that they kept the majority of the dialogue the same, and watching it was almost like seeing the images that flowed through my head during reading the book come to life.

It was beautiful, actually. I really enjoyed the movie. I just wished they'd gone into a few of the other El-ahrairah stories. I enjoyed the beginning of the movie, though. I even have that quote memorized now... From the MOVIE, not the book, surprisingly.

"All the world will be your enemy, Prince With A Thousand Enemies. And whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first, they must catch you. Digger, listener, runner. Prince with the swift warning."

I love that part. It's given me a whole new respect for rabbits... My rabbit (Jack) used to give thumps inside his sleeping box at night. I'd wake him up because it meant he was having a nightmare. But now in my head, I can see him being chased by some sort of elil... I would wake him up even faster, were he still running with us today.
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It was beautiful, actually. I really enjoyed the movie. I just wished they'd gone into a few of the other El-ahrairah stories. I enjoyed the beginning of the movie, though. I even have that quote memorized now... From the MOVIE, not the book, surprisingly.

"All the world will be your enemy, Prince With A Thousand Enemies. And whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first, they must catch you. Digger, listener, runner. Prince with the swift warning."


You know, I've been wondering about that. Everyone says that the statement in the movie is different from the book. How is that? I read the book just recently, and the entire statement, beginning with "All the world will be your enemy..." and ending with "Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people shall never be destroyed" and everything in between is in the movie, by what I've known.

Is there something I'm overlooking? Could someone post the two versions, so I can see their discrepancies?
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That's strange... It's always seemed the same to me, also.
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I like the book and the movie :D
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Jan 30 2005, 12:42 PM
It was beautiful, actually. I really enjoyed the movie. I just wished they'd gone into a few of the other El-ahrairah stories. I enjoyed the beginning of the movie, though. I even have that quote memorized now... From the MOVIE, not the book, surprisingly.

"All the world will be your enemy, Prince With A Thousand Enemies. And whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first, they must catch you. Digger, listener, runner. Prince with the swift warning."


You know, I've been wondering about that. Everyone says that the statement in the movie is different from the book. How is that? I read the book just recently, and the entire statement, beginning with "All the world will be your enemy..." and ending with "Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people shall never be destroyed" and everything in between is in the movie, by what I've known.

Is there something I'm overlooking? Could someone post the two versions, so I can see their discrepancies?

hmm... *flicks through pages* Let's see... right, now people may have thought it different because in the book it is extended:

"El-ahrairah, your people cannot rule the world, for I will not have it so. All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed."

I can't really see much other difference than that. They could've just gotten some words mixed up.
ie. Shall = Will

I'll check next time I watch the movie

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This has been an interesting discussion for me to read. I haven't seen the movie does it follow pretty closely the book? I usually like to read the books and see the movies on stories. It gives me a clearer picture of what the charachters look and sound like even if the discrepancies do annoy me sometimes
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The movie follows the book quite nicely for a movie adaptation. Indeed, the movie can never be the book but they keep to some of the text right down to the quotes from the rabbits themselves. :)
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Book was better except for:

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The movies take on "The Black Rabbit of Inle"

I still don't know why in the movie it was the Black Rabbit, not El-hrairah who came for Hazel. But I like the movie version better for that very reason.
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I think it depends... usually i just read the book first cause i've read lots of books, but in the event of something like "V for Vendetta" i'd rather see it first, cause graphic novel to movie.... lots of changes.
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