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| DeadMachine | Oct 24 2011, 10:06 AM Post #1 |
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2005-2011 pretty much had an implied rule of blank kssn = grey area. One of our members (Flan) told us awhile ago we were all gonna get banned cos of this new law requiring extra information that was announced on the front page. I assumed it was for later-made accounts but as it turns out, it was a requirement for all players. We were perfectly fine playing Korean MMOs up until this recent law was put into effect not too long ago (around Lotus Marsh release), and it appears to me government issued as hanbiton and some other companies have followed the same requirements. (Irritating to me as I was gonna visit my old acct on GE KR :|) Because of this law, it is required that you verify your kssn and some form of ID (by phone or electronic verification). Simply put, Blank KSSNs are no longer a grey area, but a red area. If you cannot verify your kssn and ID on Nexon's profile page, expect to be banned. It may be instant, it may take a few months, but be sure that you will get banned. We took a careful approach the second time on DN KR but we were traced and banned because our accounts were not verified. This is an imperfect system they have right now but the goal is to remove all botters and illegal accounts. Important : Go on DN KR or any other Korean MMO as you will, but if you plan to stay on them, you NEED to verify your account under this new law. If you don't have the means then expect to get banned. If you do have the means then it'd better be under a Korean friend, because if it's stolen data (especially from a child), expect to be in some very serious shit if you're caught. (I know a retarded australian who was playing DN not long before I started and he got 7 years for abusing legit kssns for nx :| You may not do something as retarded but I'm sure they'll dump you in with his lot.) Honestly, I'd suggest just staying clear of the KR front until such laws take less priority or become removed. I wouldn't bother because even more strict laws are taking effect very soon, two of the big ones will be shown below. Issue one http://dragonnest.nexon.com/news/page/nx.aspx?n4PageNo=50&n4PageNo_old=50&n1PageType=2&n4NoticeArticleSN=81732 [변경 세부 내용] 5. 개인정보 제공 및 공유 아래 내용 추가 ο 제공정보의 이용 목적 : 게임서비스 제공, 이벤트 및 마케팅 ο 제공 대상 : ㈜JCE ο 제공하는 개인정보 항목 : 넥슨ID, 회원키, 성별, 나이, 이름, 주민번호앞 7자리, 실명인증 여부, 본인인증 여부, 부모 동의 여부 ο 제공 정보의 보유 및 이용 기간 : 회원탈퇴 시 까지 The Change in Question Under provision act of JCE additional information is required for the following : Game Services (Playing), Events, and Marketing The following information is now needed on sign up: NXID, Member Key, Gender, Age, Name, KSSN, Cerification (be it personal ID or certificates), and you must be confirmed whether by yourself or personal guardian, it does not matter. (Effective March 31st 2011.) Put it simple: All accounts must be verified with legit KSSN and matching ID. Provision for this change were made under your "Profile" in the according security tab -_- If you do NOT verify your account, you risk being banned from any Game Services and possibly losing your account altogether.* Issue two http://dragonnest.nexon.com/news/page/nx.aspx?n4PageNo=4&n4PageNo_old=3&n1PageType=2&n4NoticeArticleSN=84492 [넥슨 이용 약관] 제 10 조 [서비스의 제공] ③ 회사는 본 조 제 2 항에도 불구하고 관련 법령에 따라 만 16 세미만의 회원에게는 오전 0 시부터 오전 6 시까지 서비스 이용을 제한할 수 있으며, 만 18 세미만의 회원에게는 본인 또는 법정 대리인의 요청에 따라 서비스 이용을 제한할 수 있습니다. The Change in Question All accounts under the age of (Effective Nov. 20th 2011.) *I've picked out the most direct clause out of both articles. If you wish to see the law in its entirety along with the penalties that fall under the first issue, check the Nexon KR ToS. GM Lily even (tried to) explain this to me in english the first time we were banned. I didn't understand fully what she meant about this being a government requirement, but now I fully understand. Just don't bother. A number of us are going to Granado Espada (My old love before DN) and it's gotten to be pretty amazing since I was last on (4 years ago) :| You may join us or find some other MMO, but this forum will prioritize GE now that the only good version of Dragon Nest is forbidden to us. Edit: Because of the stupid shit below, I'll just make it simple for our more retarded viewers to understand. There's no report conspiracy going on. Koreans didn't care cos we came across as normal players, and no godammit just because you're not answering someone who whispered you that suddenly means OMGAWD SUSPICIOUS NOT A KOREANN. Tons of people do that on DN KR, in fact there's a level of superiority when it comes to party and raids for this to be common and more weaker players to expect something like this. If you go around spouting english or being stupid of course you're most likely going to be reported, but by being a damn mute nobody's gonna go out of their way to report you, even if you are in a big unheard guild :| The first time our chars were completely banned and unable to get back, we had just received a guild name change stone. Every guild got one. When I remade my new guild could have assumed we simply switched over and we 'never got banned'. Even if there was someone who reported us prior to our guild revival they wouldn't have the mind to report again, because the GMs aren't going to go OH WE CAUGHT THEM THEY'RE ILLEGAL, they're going to fucking tell them they'll investigate. The majority in my guild were banned once or twice before the final ban, so they all had tracers on their comp from nexon's activeX control. This wasn't a ban because of a report, it was a ban because we were easily traced, and when it comes down to it they're just enforcing the laws set in stone, and there's nothing we can do about that. Edited by DeadMachine, Oct 27 2011, 08:38 PM.
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| LilithKitten | Oct 24 2011, 10:21 AM Post #2 |
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Au revoir Dragon Nest Korea.. ; 3; It was fun while it lasted!! |
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| Kogaki | Oct 24 2011, 10:56 AM Post #3 |
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Oh well. There's nothing you can do about this mess :( I'll join you guys when I have time, but for right now - I have sooooooo many shit on my plate, it's ridiculous. Btw, is there anyone else besides Ark/Neko/Hels going into GE? |
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| LilithKitten | Oct 24 2011, 03:15 PM Post #4 |
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Jamie is also in GE as well.. I think Tucker will also go back to GE when he's back as well.. I'll join on GE later too~ |
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| pwwwwn | Oct 24 2011, 05:07 PM Post #5 |
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idk what imma do yet .. i might come check out GE.. i jus got a ps3 and been on that lately.. but wotever :P everyone take care it was fun playin KR with you guys.. |
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| kokoronai | Oct 24 2011, 09:45 PM Post #6 |
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I have some questions in mind. Why is this person not still banned and still playing yesterday?(my edit fail, the image below is oct 24) This account existed since before the FIRST ban right?![]() Why my 2 accounts with characters in it not in the guild still not banned.. that 2 accounts of mine were also made before the FIRST ban of our original accounts.. And also Douglaz has many accounts with characters and no one of it is banned. Those accounts of him were made also older than the account of mine that got banned on the SECOND ban. If the thing your saying is being enforced today strictly... then that just means Nexon got a weak crappy KSSN detection system? Also, if those accounts I told above just "missed" the ban.. why all of the guild members got banned and no account missed the ban out of about 40 to 60 members I think? I really do believe its only the guild again. Some people got banned also outside the guild? Then, I believe they are only few and they must be the "real one who deserved to be banned". Like those the ones being accussed bigtime of identity theft with big proof or the other ones that did other bad things for them to be banned. What my point is? It's only the guild who was the priority of those those nexon staff to be banned. Someone just reported it because its very noticeable when we don't speak english when we are in wild korean parties. Maybe one person noticed that everytime he parties with one of our guild member, he doesn't talk in korean.. so he reported us.. Also, correct me if i'm wrong, the romanization of our guild name is "Ebaltekeu", right? It' really obvious that its the old "Ivaltek". Many koreans can notice that its the same Ivaltek. Another one is that our names is also noticeable since most of it has mix English and Hangeul. Imagine that you are a legit korean and playing DN KR and noticing this guild with that kind of things that I just told.. what will come in your mind? I am half filipino/japanese and I played a japanese MMO called fantasy earth zero last summer when I was in a vacation on Japan. There were many foreign guilds there and I admit it to myself also that I want them to be banned. It was like "Why play here? Go play your own games in your country". But that character of mine changed when I started playing foreign MMOs like this when i returned Philippines. Sorry for my not so good english. Edited by kokoronai, Oct 24 2011, 10:47 PM.
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| khairi00 | Oct 24 2011, 10:15 PM Post #7 |
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ew koreans getting racisier by days |
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| Krad | Oct 24 2011, 10:50 PM Post #8 |
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yea the ban is all about some one reporting us, or some one who know about this English guild, i bet if a real legit korean with legit kssn playin DN kr and joined our guild, i bet, that guy got ban too....so this is all about guild. |
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| DeadMachine | Oct 25 2011, 12:41 AM Post #9 |
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we had three legit koreans in our old guild and none of them got banned when the guild got wiped. This is a system that detects accounts and people COMPLETELY unrelated to our guild were hit by it as well. those people who got hit were very active, unlike some accounts you guys have. c45hd did get hit by the ban, but I think it has to do with our activity, and why his PureD account is still running around. I know c45hd has a horrid internet connection and honestly I don't think he gets on that often, and I do have accounts that weren't banned (I hardly go on them). Other issue is we had gotten banned previously and our bans lifted, but in order for us to get our bans lifted when filling out the report form, we HAD to allow them to receive information from our computers and all that crap, so that in turn made it a lot easier for them to trace us if they found us suspicious. For the most part I'm pretty sure it's detecting high usage and checking accounts frequently used for validity. Pretty much wot Lily explained to me before but she said this was a government move and that KR doesn't exactly wish for us to be banned, but they have to enforce it. I doubt it had to do with our guild at all. Nobody reported us and for those who were banned before, we had to take a blow to get unbanned, and for the majority of accounts that were avoided they lacked a high usage like our current ones. At this point I can't care to give a shit, it's over with. |
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| Krad | Oct 25 2011, 02:08 AM Post #10 |
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im really not active with my destroyer, u can say im rarely on9 after i joined the new guild..how come i got ban too? p/s: how to know whether im using legit kssn or blank kssn? Edited by Krad, Oct 25 2011, 02:12 AM.
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| ttusunny | Oct 25 2011, 03:33 AM Post #11 |
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| kokoronai | Oct 25 2011, 03:53 AM Post #12 |
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If they had to ban those illegal/fake KSSNs, why make an exception to those who are inactive? Imagine that they will make a software/program that bans those fake and illegal KSSNs and they will think about that idea and say "Let's go put an exception to this program to those who are inactive!". Not possible, right? They will get screwed if the government knows about it if they really want to enforce the law. LAW DOESNT HAVE EXCEPTIONS. If they want to mass ban all the fake and illegal KSSNs, they would make a program that doesn't have an exception. Plus, it's really not possible for Nexon, a company with programmers/software makers to make a CRAPPY program/software that misses someone being banned. There's no such fail program exists. If a program is programmed to ban those illegal/fake KSSNs, it will not miss someone. It's really really really not possible for it to miss someone since its programmed. If they had to ban us, they will use a specific software/program like the ones they use to distribute prizes on events. Come to think of this, imagine that we were on the character Level jump event last time. They have a program they use to distribute the jump character to those who did finish the requirement. The same thing goes for us if they want to ban all those illegal/fake KSSNs.. EVERYONE who meet the requirement of having fake/illegal KSSNs will get banned. But it didn't.. all accounts that I know that is not in the guild isn't banned. so it means its just the guild.. for those legit koreans that arent banned on the guild, thats probably because they scanned our guild for blank/fake KSSNs but never they did it outside the guild. If they did, it will be a mass ban including all our accounts not in the guild and all the accounts that have fake/illegal KSSNs, nothing will be missed. GMs will never check accounts 1 by 1 when they want to ban many players, they use a specific program/script and they will use their player accounts database when they want to mass ban. My number 1 point here is that nexon will never never never make a program that has exceptions if they want to enforce the law. My point too.. Edited by kokoronai, Oct 25 2011, 04:25 AM.
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| Krad | Oct 25 2011, 05:27 AM Post #13 |
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huh?what did you mean?explanation please.. and can you confirm the things about if using legit kssn need to verify the account through sms/phone/mail?and if not verified can be ban?( i am concerned about this because currently im playin Elsword KR) thanks in advance. edit: is this the thing about verification you talking about?
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| kokoronai | Oct 25 2011, 08:11 AM Post #14 |
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yea, that's what he's talking about, but it's the reason why we have child KSSN i think.. it will be the samething that will appear if we don't use child KSSN in registration. Edited by kokoronai, Oct 25 2011, 08:13 AM.
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| seph | Oct 25 2011, 09:17 AM Post #15 |
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well...we can't do anything now, since its an active law and all the kr mmos are going to follow it straight... Guys, stop trying to finda a way to get back or a reason for our ban...it's just as Ark said, and theres nothing we can do about it....just face it, theres a ton of mmos out there...you can even join GE and play with guild mates again lol. I guess im getting myself GE a try...maybe after I finish some projects...anyway, I'll keep an eye on this forum for any update about games and stuff |
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