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E-W Thing You're Most Ashamed Of; `fess up... confession is good for you.
Topic Started: Mar 7 2006, 03:20 PM (4,037 Views)
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Mine came about as a silly miscalculation on my part that accidentally led to some real-life conflict as an IC feud temporarily went OOC before we cleared things up.

Had a character in a hardcore match challenging for a hardcore title... he was also part of a stable engaged in a group feud with another stable. The hardcore title match was supposed to be mano-a-mano but my character ended up losing the match due to outside interference by one of the characters from the opposing stable. Both the handler of the titleholder and I were annoyed by this interference as we had wanted the match to be "clean" (in relative terms) but hey, these things happen in e-w, right?

But I had the (not-so) brilliant idea that it would make sense for my character to retaliate and have his stable ambush the interferer and exact revenge through a massive beatdown. Not unexpected and the interferer's handler wrote in a strat distinctly stating that his character would stay away from the arena at the next card to avoid such a thing. I had, however, already written in a lengthy backstage skit in which a massive beatdown was inflicted that was both way overboard and, in hindsight, rather mean-spirited in the way it was done. In my defense, I didn't know the interferer's handler had stratted to not be there and the fedhead at the time (y'all can guess which revolving door fed this took place in, huh?) really shouldn't have allowed our attack to go through. But it did and when the card came out, I thought: "Ah, it worked! Now we'll see what happens next."

What happened next was I got all sorts of OOC heat for not only going overboard with the attack but also in countermanding the handler's instructions to not have his character be present. I think I'm sorta innocent of the second charge as that's really the fedhead's call but the first objection definitely rang true as in re-reading the attack I'd written, I could see how it was way overboard and could be interpreted as being mean-spirited. I mean, we ended up lassoing the poor victim around the throat and then dragging him behind a motorcycle and out of the arena (although I already had envisioned how a TV production could do that exact same stunt without injuring anyone).

Anyhoo, realizing my mistake, I made my mea culpas to the interferer's handler and fortunately, things died down after a while. And while all this might not sound like it was that big of a deal, it was a fairly serious breach of handler etiquette at the time and soured a lot of people's perspectives on the way the stable war feud was progressing.

So that's my most cringe-worthy moment as a handler.

What's yours?

Patrickus Lurkus
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I once jobbed to Tyrone Hayes....



or was that Mike Sebastian.


I don't know the characters are so similar I forget sometimes.


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Once when I had the Killing Machines in IWF/WOW (the early version, not the I-Slash version), I got together with a couple other handlers and orchestrated a series of attacks against the top two or three faces in the fed at the time. Now, since all the attackers were heels it made some sense, but not really because there was no storyline reason or established feud to justify it. Basically during the course of one show we had eight guys jump these two or three faces in the backstage area and just beat the crap out of them...the attacks were written in a very one sided way, and included guys hitting top rope finishers off other guys' shoulders in the locker room, leaving them a bloody unconscious mess, etc.

Basically we ended up pissing more than a couple people off.
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E2dB,Mar 8 2006
03:14 PM
I once jobbed to Tyrone Hayes....



or was that Mike Sebastian.


I don't know the characters are so similar I forget sometimes.


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Picky,Mar 10 2006
02:48 PM
E2dB,Mar 8 2006
03:14 PM
I once jobbed to Tyrone Hayes....



or was that Mike Sebastian.


I don't know the characters are so similar I forget sometimes.


Errol
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I don't know why I thought it was a good idea back in 1997 to have my IWF/WOW character Derrick DaMann start a recurring interview segment known as "The Shooting Gallery." The premise, based on a trend becoming popularized at the time by ECW, Brian Pillman, and others, was to be in-character and complaining about out-of-character gripes. I should have seen right through the stupidity of the whole fad and to the potential disaster that would inevitably ensue, but what can I say other than it seemed to be the cutting edge of cool at the time. That and I was, and probably still am, an idiot.

Chris Jurkschat should've killed off Derrick several months earlier and saved himself from all the headaches that resulted from this storyline. At no point did this idea have any kind of positive potential, and my email and all knowledge of my characters should have been deleted from the IWF/WOW files at the moment it was suggested.

Anyway, the first few SG's went fine enough. The other handlers were in on the joke and took everything in stride. But then the next scheduled "guest" was the handler of a character named Ricky Revolution. The first few drafts of the Gallery went fine, but at some point during all the re-writes, things got rather tense between his handler and I. The shooting went back and forth between each other well before the segment was even close to making "the air." I don't remember what the issue was even about, or why things escalated the way they did. Finally, I made the last revisions (i.e. twisted all his words, got my character completely over at his expense, made the handler himself seem like a moron) and submitted it for the show.

Needless to say, there was backlash from Revolution's handler. His strat for the following card was to attack DaMann after his match, with the help of someone in another league with whom I had been verbally sparring (entirely in-character) named Curt Crane. So Revolution and Crane, who was not even in IWF/WOW at this time, punk out DaMann with none of his 9 stablemates being aware of what was going on or going out to help (superstables were also inexplicably in vogue at the time). Immediately after the show was sent out, Revolution left the league.

At the time, I thought it was because he was afraid of DaMann's stable getting revenge on the following card. Looking back, however, it may have been a result of him realizing how stupid the whole thing became and a clear-headed desire to distance himself from it as much as possible. Unfortunately, I think I kept mentioning the situation either in jest or with a little resentment until the time of Derrick's "death" in 1998.

Since my "resurrection" early last year, I've tried to take nothing too seriously, or seriously at all for that matter. My main character is a satire on Paris Hilton, for God sakes. There hasn't been a trace of ill-willed shooting in any rp or angle, although an inside joke here and there hasn't been out of the question. My priority is now on cooperation instead of competition, to the point where I've actually freaked out another handlers. I keep telling anyone who will listen that you can get more of the heat you want in-character than out of it. I have also made other philosophical changes along those lines, a likely result of both maturity (still waiting for most of it, though) and the memory of this experience.

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Good story, Jay. DaMann was an entertaining character, for sure.

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I have a few things.


One would be some of the matches I wrote. I've written some utter abortions in my day that abuse any semblance of realism eight ways to Sunday.

Now, people that know me know that I'm not big on realism in RPs. If I want to write an RP where my character builds a time travel device and ends up stuck in an alternate dimension where Mark Stone's RSE project actually worked and he had taken over the Earth, I bloody well will (and have :unsure: ). Obviously, some feds just won't tolerate that sort of thing, and sometimes I go so far out of left field that the only thing anyone can say about it is "uuhhhhh... oookay". It's my RP, and if it costs me my match, so be it.

Matches are an entirely differnt story. Unless it's an actual parody/comedy match, the matchup has to be taken absolutely seriously and with some degree of realism. Matches where all competitors should have been dead seventeen times over are (to me) clearly out-of-bounds. And I've written them that way. It always seems like a good idea at the time, and then as time passes, I come to my senses and realize that it was a travesty. Sometimes this has to do with ridiculous match stipulations (Human Chess Death Match, yes, I'm calling you out on that, Pat), sometimes it has to do with strats ("I will fill the steel cage with water and then handcuff my opponent to the cage and use a taser on him"... no, I'm not making that up), but often it has to do with I'm an idiot.


I guess the second one is the way I stratted when I first started. I was in UEW, where strats were a big part of the 'Magic Equation'. At that particular time, everyone and his brother felt like they had to interfere in a match to get heat. So, in one match which certain people (Jeff) will never allow me to forget, I counter-stratted for literally EVERYONE IN THE FED. Plus counter-strats for the most ridiculous crap possible (like poison!). Part of me blames a certain handler whose last name rhymes with Riemensnyder who actually used these ridiculous attacks in the first place, but part of me realizes that I'm just really freaking paranoid.



Lastly, I booked UEW for like four months, and made some bad booking decisions. Ironically, the ones I got bitched out for were the good booking decisions. I guess every fedhead has this problem, which makes Beeby's 137 year run even more impressive.



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I'm never sure if this is the coolest thing I participated in, or the least realistic, and it has taken on legendary status in the UWF, but I still have to mention it. The Pride hi-jacked the ring once, in 1997, in response to a match between two characters we didn't like. It was at least a quasi-shoot, as we felt there was a group of UWF handlers whose rp's weren't up to snuff anymore, and we wanted to send a message to them. I wouldn't agree to doing something like that anymore, partly because it was mean spirited and partly because I don't think it's technically feasible.

But yet... damn, it WAS a cool moment. So I'm conflicted.
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JeremyS,Mar 14 2006
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sometimes it has to do with strats ("I will fill the steel cage with water and then handcuff my opponent to the cage and use a taser on him"... no, I'm not making that up)

How did the water stay in the cage? Was it magic water?
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I've written a few "wrestlecrap" type matches, too, especially in my early days. I think I was really into the ECW idea and tried to make matches extremely violent. I recall writing a tag team barbed wire match where one guy got cut open so bad one of the announcers said "oh god, I think I can see his brains." :unsure:

Another match I wrote was for a fed called, WIF, I think. It was a cage match that involved the top heel, whose name was "Heavy Metal" or something like that, against a tall face wrestler named "Sapphire". Anyway, without consulting the fed head or either handler, I had Heavy Metal win the match by getting Sapphire to the top of the cage, sitting across his back, and riding him off the top of the cage to the floor like a sled! Then, after winning the match, he attacked Sapphire while he was getting stretchered out. It was way over the line, but I guess no one cared, because I never heard any complaints about it!
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StevieScott,Mar 14 2006
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JeremyS,Mar 14 2006
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sometimes it has to do with strats ("I will fill the steel cage with water and then handcuff my opponent to the cage and use a taser on him"... no, I'm not making that up)

How did the water stay in the cage? Was it magic water?

Precious Moments was there. They used their fairy magic to keep the water in the cage because Jeremy's opponent was (wait for it) EVIL!

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Invader3K,Mar 14 2006
01:35 PM
I've written a few "wrestlecrap" type matches, too, especially in my early days. I think I was really into the ECW idea and tried to make matches extremely violent. I recall writing a tag team barbed wire match where one guy got cut open so bad one of the announcers said "oh god, I think I can see his brains." :unsure:

Another match I wrote was for a fed called, WIF, I think. It was a cage match that involved the top heel, whose name was "Heavy Metal" or something like that, against a tall face wrestler named "Sapphire". Anyway, without consulting the fed head or either handler, I had Heavy Metal win the match by getting Sapphire to the top of the cage, sitting across his back, and riding him off the top of the cage to the floor like a sled! Then, after winning the match, he attacked Sapphire while he was getting stretchered out. It was way over the line, but I guess no one cared, because I never heard any complaints about it!

Do you mean Ultimate Thrasher?

Damn I miss Horan's Thrasher crap.

PS: Sapphire blows.
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StevieScott,Mar 14 2006
10:15 AM
JeremyS,Mar 14 2006
09:07 AM
sometimes it has to do with strats ("I will fill the steel cage with water and then handcuff my opponent to the cage and use a taser on him"... no, I'm not making that up)

How did the water stay in the cage? Was it magic water?

Uh, well, I had the strat happen and the wrestler be completely perplexed when the water didn't stay in the ring.


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JeremyS,Mar 14 2006
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Sometimes this has to do with ridiculous match stipulations (Human Chess Death Match, yes, I'm calling you out on that, Pat)

Hey, I *LIKED* that match setup!

OK, maybe it was a *LITTLE* over the top (basically a giant chessboard with different hardcore weapons on each square) but don't forget my King Of The Mountain matches. I'm into architectural nightmares for wrasslers to duke it out in. :)

Patrickus Lurkus

P.S.: Altho' I will admit that the Human Chess Death Match deserves a WrestleCrap award if only for being *WAY* too convoluted for wrasslin'
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