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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 4 2012, 12:31 AM (1,398 Views) | |
| BigPoppaBuyrate | Apr 4 2012, 12:31 AM Post #1 |
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There's lots of different options for tournaments. 8, 16, 32, 64 guys... or any combination within. One night. Over the course of weeks or months. I'm sure you get where I'm going with this. Jim Watkins is going to announce tournament details on SNW and I want to get a feel for what everyone is hoping for. I asked a handful of people already but I want a broader discussion. Oh, and if you pitch an idea for a tournament, you need to also include what the Rumble winner gets. That's the assignment - make it happen! |
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| Robfathah | Apr 4 2012, 01:28 AM Post #2 |
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8-16! I sort of like the idea of starting with 16 and doing eight qualifiers to get into the tournament field, a la King of the Ring. I'm not sure how long you want this to take, though. As for the Rumble winner, guarantee them a shot at the World Title. Can't see too many "anytime, anyplace" title matches being handed out, though, the AWA hasn't had the best of luck with that gimmick!  |
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| BigPoppaBuyrate | Apr 4 2012, 01:34 AM Post #3 |
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How long do YOU want it to take?! |
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| sychosys | Apr 4 2012, 01:48 AM Post #4 |
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Three years! Seriously, I'd love to see a 64 man tournament, with every AWA wrestler, from former champs to jobbers getting a chance, along with some outside talent. Rumble winner could win both a Longhorn title shot AND guaranteed first title shot at the new World Champion. |
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| ElSavaje | Apr 4 2012, 04:05 AM Post #5 |
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I'd like to see a champ crowned at MDM, so I'm thinking, after the announcement at the next SNW, we have four qualifying matches each on the 4/21 and 5/5 editions of SNW, eight quarterfinal matches on the May 19th edition and semifinals and the finals at MDM. Any other pre-qualifying matches can be done as highlights from house shows. I think the Rumble winner should get a shot at the World title at the following SuperClash and save the "any title, anytime, anywhere" stip for Steal the Spotlight. |
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| BigPoppaBuyrate | Apr 4 2012, 11:14 AM Post #6 |
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So, let's summarize so far: 1) Rob wants an 8 man tournament. Start with 16 and do qualifying matches to make the "Elite Eight" which presumably would be a one night tournament then. He also wants to make the Rumble winner receive an automatic title shot at whoever wins the tournament. Rob sets no timeline so this could be done in a matter of weeks or months. 2) Joe wants a 64 man tournament involving everyone on the roster and then some. He suggests that the Rumble winner receive a shot at the Longhorn Heritage Title and a future shot at the National Title. This tournament (in my vision) would run the entirety of the summer and probably wrap up around Labor Day which would also raise the question of what to do with the Stampede Cup tournament. 3) Ridz suggests a 16 man tournament with "highlight style" qualifiers for the most part to get us to that Sweet Sixteen. The tournament would take place over the course of the next month or so and wrap up with the Final Four at Memorial Day Mayhem where he suggests that the Rumble winner should receive a guaranteed title shot at SuperClash IV in November. Three very good proposals. Anyone else? |
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| Overly_Critical_Jue | Apr 4 2012, 11:24 AM Post #7 |
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I would go with Rizdal's suggestion, but I'd stretch it out until the July 4th super show(Wrestlerock II!?!??!). I don't want to fill out entire SNW's with nothing but qualifying matches. As for the Rumble winner...as always, he ends up with a guaranteed title shot...at some show. Dunno if I'd just GIVE him the SuperClash shot. |
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| BigPoppaBuyrate | Apr 4 2012, 12:28 PM Post #8 |
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At one point during this planning process, I had come up with a tournament idea that said to enter you had to either: 1) Be a current or former AWA champion - National, Tag, Longhorn - didn't matter as long as you held a piece of gold OR 2) Be a current or former World Champion from a "Championship Committee recognized promotion." No, "I was the champ of ABC!" - it had to be feds that we all know and love... or at least feds that didn't exist that made sense to include (HAMILTON GRAHAM UP IN THIS!) In this scenario, I would likely include at least one "wild card" slot that would go to the winner of the Rumble Any interest in this particular solution? Just for food for thought, the first slot would include as options: Marcus Broussard Ron Houston Kolya Sudakov Stevie Scott Juan Vasquez Calisto Dufresne Robert Donovan Nenshou Rex Summers City Jack Tin Can Rust Adrian Freeman Cletus Lee Bishop Duane Henry Bishop Dave Cooper Eric Matthew Somers Danny Morton Jackson Haynes Jack Lynch James Lynch Not a bad field to choose from. |
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| Murphy | Apr 4 2012, 12:34 PM Post #9 |
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Except for the fact that I'm sure you still want to do a Stampede Cup this year, I would almost suggest making it a summer long thing. Nothing over one night, just make the tournament as big as you think you can manage and have it stretch out for a couple months with the finals being on, I dunno, what was before Stampede Cup? Super Clash? Though that would be a ridiculous amount of work, if you were going to just skip Stampede Cup because crowning a World Champion is just that huge, it could be pulled off. |
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| BigPoppaBuyrate | Apr 4 2012, 01:09 PM Post #10 |
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Cancelling this year's Stampede Cup is NOT a deal-breaker. Feel free to include that in your tournament ideas if you think it helps. I've also considered stripping the Cup down to an eight team one night tournament to ease the "tournament fatigue." |
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| Overly_Critical_Jue | Apr 4 2012, 01:37 PM Post #11 |
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Or you can break the arm of one member of every tag team that has no chance of winning so you can just have a straight up singles match to determine the best tag team in the world! 
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| JeremySAtWork | Apr 4 2012, 02:05 PM Post #12 |
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Or this could BE this year's Stampede Cup. I don't like the former champ option. We could just have the Rumble be for the belt. It worked for WWF in 1992. If we're going with a tournament, I think Rob's idea is best of the existing proposals. Another idea... a four-man Iron Man tournament. Each week, run some kind of qualifier; one person gets in every show via various matches. The fourth and final qualifier is the Memorial Day Rumble. Tournament happens at WrestleRock. Out Of The Box Thought: qualifying matches to get eight guys for... a Bunkhouse Stampede Steel Cage Battle Royal~! |
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| ratrangerm | Apr 4 2012, 03:00 PM Post #13 |
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I had been discussing this in e-mail with Blue earlier, so here were some of my suggestions. * If we go with a 64-wrestler bracket, some of the entrants could get first-round byes. Robert Donovan could get one on the basis of his status as the No. 1 contender, Rex Summers gets one as the Longhorn Heritage champ and one bye goes to the Memorial Day Rumble winner. The fourth bye has several options available (Juan Vasquez and Stevie Scott as former AWA National champs, coin flip between James and Jack Lynch for holding the tag titles, Sultan Azam Sharif for winning Steal the Spotlight). If that bracket is used, then the bulk of the matches should be held on house shows so the SNW episodes aren't flooded with too many tourney matches. * Another option could be a 14-wrestler bracket, similar to the Wrestlemania IV tournament, in which Donovan and Summers get byes... but have Donovan and Summers face each other in the quarterfinals, thus adding intrigue as to which top contender moves on and which one is eliminated. As for the other 12 entrants, the Memorial Day Rumble winner could get a spot, with the other 11 spots determined in qualifying matches. Either way, it may be best to postpone the Stampede Cup for this year, but maybe hold it early in 2013. |
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| TheFlodaddy | Apr 4 2012, 07:47 PM Post #14 |
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Upon hearing his name uttered Ron Houston's right arm spontaneously broke. When reached for comment the reclusive Athens Georgia Madman could only be heard meekly muttering "mah arm... Mah stinkin' arm" until the connection went dead. As is, he'd probably tape the sucker up for option one. Even if just to break it again. |
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| BigPoppaBuyrate | Apr 4 2012, 11:24 PM Post #15 |
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I have to admit that I'm a fan of the 64 guy tourney and have been since the early discussions about this tournament that took place in e-mail. My promoter side likes the idea of being all, "The biggest tournament of all time for the biggest prize of all time!" and then going out and getting those most random one-offs and cameos to fill out the bracket. Like a random 2012 Juvenil Infierno vs Skywalker Jones in the first round or Sebastian Jericho vs Luke Steele in the feud the Double Eye didn't want you to see. Bringing in 4M and Maniac Jack to have some "legendary" off-camera bloody brawl... with a Mr. Honeydew run-in to complete the jobber trifecta. There are obvious problems with it - could be too long, too many "nobodies" get in and probably go right out, there'd certainly be no Stampede Cup this year, not sure exactly what the Rumble does either. |
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